A ceasefire in Ukraine must come first

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00:00As you know, Rubio has told us on the plane on our way to Jadda that basically he wanted

00:05to see some kind of a ceasefire achieved.

00:08The negotiation in terms of details, whether we're talking about territories or peacekeeping

00:14forces or Ukraine joining NATO, all these issues will be discussed later.

00:22Of course, there is, as you know, a Russian demand that Ukraine should never be part of

00:27NATO.

00:28But there is other things, too.

00:29But he also said that even the signing of the mineral deals with the Ukrainians is not

00:33really a top priority for this conference.