📢 BAHÍA BLANCA: "HAY PRODUCTORES QUE NI PUEDEN ENTRAR A SU CAMPO"

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👉 Carlos Bodanza, especialista agropecuario, describe el impacto en la comunidad, con miles de hogares afectados por la inundación y vías de comunicación destruidas. Las pérdidas económicas son significativas, especialmente en el sector agropecuario.   👉 Seguí en #HoraCríticaEnA24 📺 a24.com/vivo

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00:00And we go back to Bahia Blanca to communicate with Carlos Bodanza.

00:04He is a colleague, a specialist in agriculture and lives there in Bahia Blanca.

00:08Carlos, how are you? Good afternoon.

00:10How are you? Very good afternoon. Here we are.

00:13Many questions, Carlos, to ask you.

00:15The first of all is, how is the situation now? How are you?

00:20No, well, I, in particular, I am one of the privileged ones that, well,

00:24I was in an area where I did not have more than a hundred gutters on the roof

00:29and the truth is that mine too, in some way,

00:32the family has arrived, well, yes, with some problems.

00:37In fact, well, I am, I have my radio program

00:41and I come from the operator that I have on Sundays in the morning

00:45with the house totally detonated.

00:47Yes.

00:48I was looking at the clock, two hours I was cleaning a refrigerator

00:51to see if we could put it on when the light came on.

00:55And well, the day goes by trying to help, to give a hand.

00:59Now I got into a street and everything is cut off,

01:02but they are lifting what people throw away, right?

01:05Because, really, one goes through the streets

01:08and there are piles and piles of things that they throw away

01:11because there is a mattress that is no longer useful for you,

01:15or a cushion that is no longer useful for you.

01:17Obviously, the electromagnets, many choose to throw them away directly

01:21because they were flooded in such a way

01:24that they will not be able to be used again.

01:27And that's how it is, all day, all the time,

01:30everyone trying to, well, to regroup.

01:33The weather accompanies us, there is sun,

01:36now even the wind stopped, but well, little by little

01:39some streets of Valle Blanca are being flooded, right?

01:42So, well, the most complicated thing is what is stuck to the sea,

01:46what is Serri, what is Guerrero White, what is the port.

01:51The rest of the city, taking mud, water

01:54and trying to resume, let's say, not normal life

01:57because most of the shops are closed,

02:00because there is still a debate, even tomorrow, supposedly,

02:04the classes were going to start, but I'm sure they will postpone it

02:07because a large part of the teachers have the same problems

02:10that their students have.

02:12So, for now, in the middle of the reconstruction phase, right?

02:17And that reconstruction phase, if we take it to the countryside,

02:20to the surroundings of the city, how is the situation?

02:23I imagine that also, from what you were telling me,

02:26there are still denied areas, right?

02:29Yes, yes, yes, very, very denied,

02:32because the problem is that in many places,

02:35first of all, the roads to the fields are all dirt,

02:38and most of Valle Blanca has 4 or 5 trunks

02:41that have always been in poor condition,

02:44well, now they have no state directly,

02:48and they have a very large area,

02:51about 2 meters wide and 2 meters deep,

02:54where the water was going down,

02:57even opening the stone,

03:00here is an area where there is a stone plate

03:0340 centimeters approximately,

03:06it is a soil, let's say, with stone very close,

03:09that is all open,

03:12then there are fields that, for example,

03:15have left something without doing,

03:18and today the route is a ditch,

03:21and even, for example, Route 35,

03:24which is the one that connects Valle Blanca with La Pampa,

03:27well, it broke into several pieces

03:30because the water seeks to go down to the sea,

03:33and the route prevented it,

03:36so that route, for example, today,

03:39whoever wants to come to Valle Blanca

03:42can go there, go to Cuba and return to La Pampa.

03:45Of course, an alternative path.

03:48Carlos, how are you? Lucia greets you.

03:51You just commented that you have been on the street

03:54helping the neighbors for a long time,

03:57I wanted to ask you, do you see any type of logistics,

04:00distribution, because there is a lot of donation

04:03that is coming, not only from the city of Buenos Aires,

04:06from Lambas, but also from different points

04:09of hygiene, what are you seeing there?

04:12Look, the truth is that what I can tell you

04:15is what one receives through chat, through the street.

04:18Here the problem is that, obviously,

04:21one sees that the donations are many,

04:24we know it and we also see it in our networks.

04:27The issue is that when one talks about,

04:30I don't know, at least 50% of a city

04:33that has 350,000 inhabitants affected,

04:37it is very difficult sometimes to get everywhere.

04:40I was just talking to this boy

04:43who lives next to the canal,

04:46one of the most affected places,

04:49and no one happened here.

04:52That testimony is repeated, Carlos,

04:55it is a self-sustaining work of the neighbors.

04:58It is good, but one also understands,

05:01what are you going to do, house by house,

05:04even if there are 50,000, 60,000 affected?

05:07Yes, it is not enough.

05:10I think people also have to see

05:13what centers to go to, because if one sees

05:16that we have a lot of places that are

05:19available as a center of assistance,

05:22as a center of attention, as a center of distribution,

05:25and well, whoever needs something will have to go there.

05:28I personally bought him a dozen bananas,

05:31and I'm sure they'll give you what you want,

05:34because the warehouses are closed.

05:37The problem we began to find is that

05:40most of the deposits of goods that are not from

05:43Bahía Blanca, the ones that are from Bahía Blanca

05:46are also under water, so there is no distribution

05:49to the warehouses, except for the large supermarkets

05:52that have their own deposits.

05:55The neighborhood supermarkets began to have

05:58their own deposits.

06:01People also try to provide themselves,

06:04because they say, I'm short, so we all buy.

06:07Two packets of syrup, I'm going to buy one,

06:10two bottles of vanilla, I'm going to buy one,

06:13so that also causes a whole erosion

06:16of the system, so to speak.

06:19What happens there, Carlos, also depending on

06:22what you have been reporting and what the images

06:25are, is that the city is completely destroyed.

06:28It seems that there is where the government,

06:31both provincial and national, should implement

06:34logistics to supply the city, right?

06:37Look, I'll give you an example.

06:40When you called me, the producer,

06:43when she called me, you did 15 minutes.

06:46In Bahía Blanca there are no bottles,

06:49it is for very few reasons that occur.

06:53It's been more than half an hour

06:56that I still haven't been able to go around

06:59La Manzana for some reason, because there are

07:02trucks going through, collecting things,

07:05taking people out. There are excavators

07:08pulling out the mud, because they are very

07:11close to one of the canals, so they are

07:14pulling out the mud. On the other hand,

07:17there are cranes lifting cars that are

07:20pulling out their cars, because it happens

07:23to me personally, friends who tell me,

07:26look, the car is in front of the studio,

07:29I'm five blocks from one side, five blocks

07:32from the other, and the car doesn't

07:35appear, I have no idea where it is.

07:38And maybe the car is in the river because

07:41the canal took it, and the river is

07:44here, five kilometers.

07:47Is there any calculation that is already

07:50being made on the side of the field,

07:53of the losses that are being received

07:56both by the lost crops and by what

07:59cannot reach the port due to the

08:02flooding situation that still exists?

08:05We are in a situation where tomorrow

08:08some roads begin to be fixed, because

08:11the producers themselves, obviously,

08:14are having a hard time, but you

08:17know, we are in a situation where

08:20there are 15 people who still do not

08:23appear, and from 100 we pass to 15.

08:26Well, that is very good news, because

08:29we were quite distressed, because there

08:32were still about 100 people, in quotes,

08:35who did not have contact. Well, today

08:38officially, in addition to the lost crops,

08:41and the governor will be at the disposal of the agri-food sector to fix a dirt road.

08:46The problem is that there are many producers who have not left the field for five days because they can't,

08:51and for five days there are producers who want to go to the field and can't.

08:54So it's impossible to say that they died.

08:58I have an acquaintance who had about 400 sheep in the corral, locked up, eating.

09:04Well, the employee, as he could, swimming in the corrals,

09:09went to open the lockers so that the few that were alive went out to where they were.

09:14So it's impossible to put together the farm and count the farm.

09:18We don't know for sure how many animals we have in each of the fields.

09:23That's why, just today, we're going to start estimating what happened.

09:26What you said too, just on Friday, some of the port terminals are going to be operational.

09:31Even at the entrance to the port, the entrance had to be broken so that water would come out to the sea,

09:36because one of the entrances was the one that was being used as a containment deck.

09:41So it's still very complicated to say, well, this is the economic situation, or these are the losses.

09:48Really, today we are not in good conditions yet.

09:51And Carlos, I close with this last short.

09:54You said it, the 15 disappeared officials that are there now,

09:57that number is closing, right?

09:59Because we are receiving many comments of doubts regarding the number of deceased.

10:04In Bahía Blanca, that number closes as if it could be the official figure?

10:11Look, we have the experience of what was a year ago in Moneda,

10:15the turbos that flew half the city.

10:18And the same thing happened there.

10:20It was as if one saw the magnitude of the damage,

10:22and one could not believe that the figure was a lot.

10:26It was 13 dead.

10:28It was a lot.

10:30Today there are 16, I think.

10:32And also, one looks at the magnitude and says,

10:34but how can it be?

10:36We are communicators.

10:38So we know very well that it is very difficult to hide things,

10:42and to hide, especially with social networks,

10:45with the communication that each and every one of those who are on the street has,

10:48with the people who say,

10:50but how, if the list of deceased people is officially there,

10:54if mine is not there,

10:56that would come out right away.

10:58And it doesn't come out.

11:00So the people out there,

11:02and we as communicators,

11:04we have the responsibility to say,

11:06you have to deal with official figures.

11:08I don't think there is a mayor in the city

11:10trying to hide.

11:12It's crazy.

11:14But people obviously have that myth

11:16of saying,

11:18hide so that a catastrophe is not declared.

11:20This is a catastrophe.

11:22Carlos, we thank you very much for this dialogue with A24,

11:24and we are in contact.

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