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Trump: If NATO members don't pay, I'm not going to defend them
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3/7/2025
US President Donald Trump cast doubt on Thursday (March 6) on his willingness to defend Washington's NATO allies, saying that he would not do so if they are not paying enough for their own defence.
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Are you making any changes to NATO where a NATO country gets attacked but they're not
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paying enough dues so the United States doesn't defend them?
00:11
Well I've said that to them.
00:12
I said if you're not going to pay, we're not going to defend.
00:14
I said that seven years ago and because of that they paid hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:20
I said if you're not going to pay your bills, we're not going to defend you.
00:25
And it also went for the attack.
00:27
And if they got attacked, they said well does that mean you won't defend us?
00:30
I said are you current or are you delinquent?
00:34
They said if we were delinquent, would you?
00:36
I said nope, I would not.
00:38
And because of that, as you know, hundreds of billions of dollars came into NATO.
00:42
You wouldn't have NATO right now if I weren't there.
00:45
And your previous Secretary General has said that.
00:50
He said he's never seen anything like it.
00:52
When I came to NATO, when I first had my first meeting, I noticed that people weren't
00:57
paying their bills at all.
00:59
And I said I should wait until my second meeting and I did.
01:02
And I brought that up and I said if you don't pay your bills, we're not going to participate,
01:06
we're not going to protect you.
01:08
And when I said that, as soon as I said that, it was amazing how the money came in.
01:13
The money came in and now they have money.
01:16
But even now it's not enough.
01:18
It's really not enough.
01:19
They should be paying more.
01:20
On Peter's question, are you going to make that policy, U.S. policy, that the U.S. wouldn't
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defend NATO countries that don't pay?
01:25
I think it's common sense, right?
01:27
If they don't pay, I'm not going to defend them.
01:29
No, I'm not going to defend them.
01:30
I got into a lot of heat when I said that.
01:33
You said, oh, he's violating NATO.
01:36
And you know, the biggest problem I have with NATO, I really, you know, I mean, I know the
01:39
guys very well.
01:40
They're friends of mine.
01:42
But if the United States was in trouble and we called them, we said we got a problem.
01:50
France, we got a problem.
01:51
A couple of others I won't mention.
01:53
Do you think they're going to come and protect us?
01:57
They're supposed to.
01:58
I'm not so sure.
01:59
Yeah, Peter.
02:00
Also, why stay in NATO at all?
02:05
I view NATO as potentially good, but you got to get, you got to get some good thinking
02:12
in NATO.
02:13
It's very unfair what's been happening.
02:14
Until I came along, we were paying close to 100 percent of NATO.
02:19
So think of it.
02:20
We're paying 100 percent of their military and they're screwing us on trade.
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