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NHL Best Bets: Four Nations Faceoff Finals, USA the Favorite
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2/17/2025
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TV Tom Vecchio for a prop perspective on this Monday the final day of the round-robin of the Four Nations face-off
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But a change in location
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Stateside we come we're shipping up or I guess down to Boston from Montreal inside TD Garden today for a doubleheader of
00:19
Matchups Vecchio we appreciate the time as always looking forward to that prop perspective
00:24
For this Monday doubleheader in what has been a great event so far in the Four Nations face-off
00:30
Of course it has been absolutely awesome over the first few days
00:34
We have two more games today the final on Thursday like you mentioned a lot to get to
00:39
We also take an early look at some baseball line some baseball futures
00:43
Which I've locked in on Saturday night on in-game live when I was talking when I was in the show with Brady Cannon
00:48
Let's get to it
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Listen, we're gonna have to clip off this segment to remember this moment middle of February if this does end up cashing come late
00:58
September let's go back Tom to Saturday night and that Four Nations face-off thriller up in Montreal between the United States
01:06
And Canada there was fights. There was anger. There was hate and
01:11
ultimately an American
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3-1 victory the u.s. Is now booked a spot in the Four Nations final on
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Thursday evening inside TD Garden with the 3-1 win over the Canadiens Vecchio when you look back on
01:26
Saturday work in the show getting ready for this matchup. What will you remember most?
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I'll remember most at the u.s. Took care of things on defense right and you're holding an
01:38
unbelievably talented
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offensive team to
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One goal that came early and then locked things down for the rest of the game and granted you could say that Canada wasn't at
01:48
Full strength, right? They didn't have camel car out there
01:50
Who's literally the best defender in the world?
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When you have McDavid McKinnon and Crosby out there Mitch Marner Sam Reiner all these players, can you hold them to one goal?
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that is
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Incredibly incredibly. I would say almost inspiring of what we're going to see next year considering the u.s
02:07
Also, isn't that full strength when Quinn Hughes isn't there and Kate Thompson isn't on the team and Jason Robinson is on team
02:12
So having to build on this for next year's gold medal game to beat Canada. That is what I'm truly interested in
02:20
Let's take a look tonight Canada and Finland gonna square up 1 p.m
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Eastern here and as you know, the great warriors of the past guys, as you know travel across oceans here
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What the first thing they do once they landed they burn the boats because they're not going back to show we are here to win
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So what I'm hearing from inside team Canada all the executives took the passports and lit them on fire
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Cuz the boys gotta stay for two games and they gotta win which includes game number one heavy favorites
02:45
Midas 430 price a total of six and a half is Canada lay waste to Finland today. How about that Tom?
02:52
I really do think they come away with this this win and you know
02:56
a lot of these numbers were moving in game on no no pun intended for in-game live when I was doing on Saturday when
03:01
You know Canada was on the path to losing they ended up losing the game when final and it was also these numbers shift
03:07
And when it comes to looking at how that like Canada needs to have win by two goals
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Like they need to take care of this because they went to overtime versus Sweden. So we're not getting three points there
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They lost in the US if they go to overtime again, they are putting themselves at a massive massive
03:22
Disadvantage when it comes to potentially advancing to the finals obviously the US plays later to play Sweden
03:27
Whatever the points may be that's what it is
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I think the play would be Canada minus one and a half which I spoke about on Saturday night
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That line is shifted dramatically is minus 120
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It's last time I saw was minus 150 minus 160 for minus one and a half on the puck line
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So Canada needs to come away with a big performance today
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Canada wins in regulation
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They go to the title game on Thursday night for the rematch against the United States now on US soil
03:51
Maybe DRS they won't need passports even a return back to the great white north very very soon
03:57
But I did like the inspired conqueror type of analogy you had right there
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So that's what's at stake
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Canada Finland winner in regulation
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They advance to the final if the game goes to overtime a small crack opens up for the Swedes
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Sweden could advance with a regulation win
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Against the United States. So let's get to the nightcap in
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Boston trying to continue the fervor and the atmosphere from Saturday night the Americans back home in still a favorite Tom
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Against team Sweden not nearly as drastic of a favorite as we have seen in a variety of spots
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Do you think the numbers are taking in the stakes into account, you know, these numbers may shift as
04:44
after we get the the finale of game one and this reminds me of the
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Last regular season games of Mets versus Braves if remember that doubleheader
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We had to end the regular season that we will know partially know the outcome in theory of what could happen
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So I'm not expecting Connor Hell you book to start for keep USA
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Just because he should be starting the final wouldn't be surprised to see a split
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Jeremy Swinburne is the Bruins goalie to see him start on home ice wouldn't be surprised
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She could get Jake Andre in there as well
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So I wouldn't be surprised to see the u.s
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Drop and we see Sweden become a little bit closer to even not Sweden become the favorite
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But that number just moved after we get the conclusion of the of that first game
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So I like Austin Matthews to score
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I do like the over in this game a part of me wants to see Austin Matthews gorgeous because he plays the Toronto Maple Leafs
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And to see the TD Garan have to cheer for him would be awesome
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Brad March on score at the Bell Center a player that is hated by Montreal Canadiens fans to see them have to cheer for Brad
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March on was awesome
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So I'm gonna see as much of the same with Austin Matthews scoring and then I forgot to mention for that first game would
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Be Sidney Crosby over two and a half shots on goal
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This is one of the theories that you know
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Adam Dave and I had on the football shows throughout the season is sometimes we're not sure who's gonna be seeing the lion's share of
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the yards when it comes to receiving so you can play over Crosby McKinnon and McDavid and you really just hoping that two out of
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Considering that they are in a must win and if at least two of the three hit you are coming by net positive
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So it's kind of the approach. I'm taking I'm not sure who it's going to be tonight for today for Canada
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But I do like Crosby
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Tom let's find out who it's going to be for the tournament itself with the fan blue sports book here taking a look at the
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Winner here for the future is team USA who was a plus money price now shifted to minus 150
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Because they've already found their way into the final Canada plus 160 Finland 13 to 1 in Sweden
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42 to 1 any buy-in points at this point is Canada at plus 160 now value for you
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You could take the plus 160 and you know
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That's kind of a roundabout way instead of taking their money line today, which is minus, you know
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400 minus 460 whatever does you take their their tournament out right and it's kind of getting them on the money line today
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So I don't mind that but I'm not betting on Canada when I can never do that
06:44
Hmm, very true Tom back. He'll very well said it would be interesting though
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Assuming that that is the matchup
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The United States was a slight underdog if I am correct, basically a money line pick them price for Saturday's game in Montreal
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What exactly would that favorite price be for the u.s. On Thursday in Boston?
07:05
You would think if it is the United States
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Versus Canada come Thursday night for the title in the four nations face off
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It's probably closer to a pick them on the money line as well
07:14
Yeah, so you were shifted to minus 120 on the money line slight favorite after camel car got ruled out on Saturday
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We need a game. So it wouldn't be surprised if it's a little bit closer even assuming assuming the camel car does play this afternoon
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Interesting stuff overall there. So yeah, we had a lot to be desired in this but how about a face-off MVP
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Here for us, but hell you buck plus 280 McDavid plus 480, which ways the value looking for you here Tom
07:41
You know, it might be hell you buck as the easy answer
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But Jake and so has a couple goals already and if he adds a goal in that gold medal around not gold medal game
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But if he adds a goal in the final that could really push him over
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Especially if you know, they win the game three to four to like how you buck doesn't have a shutout performance
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He does give up a few goals and a winning goal obviously would be that so I do like Enzo plus 650
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I think that's a fair price on his value
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The pride of Omaha, Nebraska Jake Denzel
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I like that look as well a lot of America Canada talk
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America's pastime up in the great white north because Vecchio doesn't just provide the prop perspective
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He is the home run prop king and that even comes calling his shot before a major league baseball season begins
08:24
Vecchio the 2025 campaign who's leading the bigs in the long ball this year
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So this is something I discussed on Saturday night on in-game live with Brady Cannon and we're looking at these props
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season-long props to lead the league in home runs and Vladimir Guerrero jr.
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Is that 45 to 1 was at 45 to 1 has moved to 40 to 1 Brady?
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Who's out in in Vegas told me that the circus sportsbook an amazingly sharp sportsbook had him at 27 to 1
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So I'm just buying in at least on some of that differential
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I can get Vladdy at 45 to 1 a I love the fact that he has a contract negotiation. I held up in the air
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He's not getting extension. His underlying metrics are fantastic
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The problem for Vladdy is he's not generating fly balls
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His heart contact rate is still over 40 percent. His fly ball rate last year was 33 percent
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He can fix the fly ball rate mechanically as long as he still has that underlying power
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He still has a strong barrel rate, which was the highest last year at 13 points
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I'm percent with the high since 2001 so he has it my metrics even through the fly balls
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Down to the bell compact deal. We appreciate it always
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