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South Indian actor Biju Menon talks new film 'Thundu', nepotism, sabbatical, and re-invention
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2/17/2025
The National Award-winning actor talks about the importance of re-invention and innovation in an industry that makes sensible cinema
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I don't know if it's easy to survive, entry may be easy, but if you want to survive you have to show your mettle.
00:08
If you don't have that, you can only do a few films.
00:12
We have to update in each film and there will be changes according to the technology.
00:30
He is one of the few actors who has just evolved with time.
00:34
He has been in the industry for decades.
00:36
Some of his movies, be it comedy in Velli Moonga or Ayyappanum Koshyam, he was in stellar form.
00:43
Even if you are not familiar with Malayalam films, he is one actor you must watch out for.
00:48
He has done some tremendous work.
00:50
He is in Dubai right now for his latest movie.
00:52
We will get to the conversation.
00:54
Thank you so much for speaking to us.
00:56
You need to tell us about Thundu.
00:58
What should we know about it?
01:00
What is the angle of the movie?
01:02
It's got double meaning, I am told.
01:04
Thundu has two meanings in Malayalam.
01:08
We use the best meaning of it.
01:10
Thundu means the copy of something.
01:14
That is the meaning of Thundu.
01:18
The content is the same.
01:20
When someone has a problem in their life,
01:24
when they need a gradation or a promotion,
01:26
they write an exam.
01:28
But when they are not in a mental state,
01:30
they write it all down.
01:32
If they don't stop,
01:34
they ask for a piece of paper.
01:36
That is the problem we face in this movie.
01:38
It is connected to the next problem.
01:40
All the problems are caused by a humorous touch.
01:44
The emotional areas are treated in a humorous way.
01:48
You are a policeman in this movie.
01:52
One of the roles that you seem to be doing well.
01:56
Either you are the angry young guy
01:58
or you are the fun guy.
02:00
What kind of a policeman are you?
02:02
I am a police character in a police uniform.
02:06
But it affects my personal life.
02:10
I speak to the personal side.
02:12
I can say that it is different from what I did before.
02:16
Police characters are more serious.
02:20
It is a humorous police side in this movie.
02:24
My father is 70 years old.
02:26
He wrote a law school exam when he was 9 years old.
02:30
Now he is studying in a law college.
02:32
In Cochin Law College.
02:34
It is very popular.
02:36
Class topper at 70 years.
02:38
It is never too late to study.
02:42
That is the beauty of this movie.
02:44
There are things that you cannot do
02:46
even at 70 or after retirement.
02:48
As a banker you are doing it.
02:50
This is before retirement.
02:52
Before retiring from the police,
02:54
the subordinates may have some egos.
02:58
They may feel some insults.
03:00
So,
03:02
I feel that I need a promoted post.
03:06
For that,
03:08
I am ready to write an exam.
03:10
If I don't write an exam, there will be a promotion.
03:12
For that, I am ready to write an exam.
03:14
It is not something that I can do at that time.
03:16
Before retirement,
03:18
I have to do this and that.
03:20
I am a lighter character.
03:22
I am a poor character.
03:24
These are his problems.
03:28
The way you choose your scripts.
03:30
It is very fascinating.
03:32
If you have a movie,
03:34
I watch it just to see what is different about it.
03:36
Is it because you have rejected it?
03:38
Or do you have a process or a method to it?
03:42
I am not trying to reject.
03:44
I am just doing it.
03:46
Viewers are a part of it.
03:48
We have to give priority to the movies
03:50
that are accepted by the viewers.
03:52
Otherwise,
03:54
the movie will not work out.
03:56
So, there should be a priority for that.
03:58
People should do the same for me.
04:00
I should not do a cliché role.
04:02
There should be a change in it.
04:04
If we want to upgrade an artist,
04:06
we should give priority to the stories
04:08
that we can do.
04:10
We can make mistakes.
04:12
But, we should not be lazy.
04:14
We should have different subjects.
04:16
It is not for us.
04:18
I do not have the brilliance
04:20
to make a project there.
04:22
But, I choose the projects
04:24
that work out for me.
04:28
When I look at your career trajectory,
04:30
it is not like a movie with a star power.
04:32
It is slow motion.
04:34
I think you did it.
04:36
Was that a deliberate move?
04:38
To be an actor
04:40
that appeals to everybody.
04:44
You are a people's actor.
04:46
Is that a deliberate move?
04:48
It is not deliberate.
04:50
I do not need a slow motion movie
04:52
with 40 frames per second.
04:54
It is more realistic.
04:56
I communicate the characters
04:58
that I have seen
05:00
to the audience.
05:02
That is how
05:04
I opt for such movies.
05:06
It is not planned.
05:08
It is not an investigation.
05:10
It is not a thriller.
05:12
It is not an exaggerated performance.
05:14
It is not a scene.
05:16
It is very light.
05:18
It is something that
05:20
we have seen in our lives.
05:22
Many people know
05:24
the process of making a film.
05:26
But, they have not seen
05:28
the fun of the process.
05:30
We want to use the fun.
05:32
It is a big process.
05:34
I have heard of copywriting.
05:36
But, I have not seen
05:38
such a variety.
05:40
It is an art form.
05:42
Yes, it is an art form.
05:46
What was the brief of the director?
05:48
Did he say anything like
05:50
this is how I want this character
05:52
to be?
05:56
Or, did you go to the set
05:58
and give the scene?
06:00
No, it was not like that.
06:02
When we started doing the lead role,
06:04
we were more involved.
06:06
We were involved from the beginning.
06:08
That was the project.
06:10
When I told this story to Riyazan,
06:12
I was thinking of
06:14
doing a humorous subject.
06:16
Because, I too have
06:18
serious roles.
06:20
So, my friends and
06:22
relatives started saying
06:24
that they feel like seeing humor.
06:26
That was the moment
06:28
I told my story.
06:30
I did not have to do the brief.
06:32
I just told them to read the details.
06:34
After that, I listened to the story
06:36
for two hours.
06:38
When I listened to the story,
06:40
I enjoyed it a lot.
06:42
It was a fun narrative.
06:44
It was a humorous area.
06:48
We do not have to do anything
06:50
for the sake of humor.
06:52
It is a realistic backdrop.
06:54
Our problem is not only
06:56
making people laugh.
06:58
We do not have to do anything.
07:00
We just have to behave and
07:02
handle it well.
07:04
Bollywood's Isingam,
07:06
Chulbul Pandey,
07:08
they are all
07:10
good cops.
07:12
You are not one of them.
07:14
That is the biggest advantage
07:16
of Kerala and Malayalam movies.
07:18
You can do great stuff
07:20
with ordinary roles.
07:22
That is what you feel.
07:24
Here, we have a budget limitation.
07:26
For example,
07:28
for Hindi and other languages,
07:30
we have an acceptance limit.
07:32
Only the people who are
07:34
connected to Malayalam movies
07:36
watch Malayalam movies.
07:38
We do not get that reach
07:40
when we watch Malayalam movies.
07:42
When we think of a subject,
07:44
we have a huge budget restriction.
07:46
If we want to work on a grandiose
07:48
movie, we cannot do it
07:50
commercially.
07:52
So, we have to
07:54
think of a subject
07:56
that is commercially
07:58
viable.
08:00
It is not good for anyone.
08:02
It is a friendly movie.
08:04
So, we have to think
08:06
of a business as well.
08:08
At least,
08:10
we have to break it.
08:12
It is a very budgeted movie.
08:14
You cannot think of me.
08:16
There is a limitation.
08:18
If you go beyond the budget,
08:20
you might lose it.
08:22
So, I have to break the
08:24
comfort zone.
08:26
I have to think of something
08:28
that is beneficial for the producer.
08:30
I cannot think of a lighter
08:32
police.
08:34
You are a very serious
08:36
person.
08:38
When the cameras are on,
08:40
the timing is perfect.
08:42
Did you know that you had a comic
08:44
bone in your body?
08:46
You used to have a lot of muscle.
08:48
That is because
08:50
I used to watch a lot of serious movies.
08:52
Investigation, Crime, etc.
08:54
It was a genre that people
08:56
used to watch.
08:58
So, I automatically
09:00
got into it.
09:02
I was not looking for
09:04
any other option.
09:06
I was a typecast.
09:08
I took a break from it
09:10
and came out of it.
09:12
We do not know
09:14
how a movie is.
09:16
We try to avoid it.
09:18
We just have to behave
09:20
in the stories that come now.
09:22
I like it a lot.
09:24
I do not know much about
09:26
the police.
09:28
I like to act in movies.
09:30
I saw a family side of the police.
09:32
My father was a police officer.
09:34
He was a Kerala police officer.
09:36
Yes, he was a Kerala police officer.
09:38
So, I know.
09:40
I know how my father
09:42
used to walk and come back.
09:44
It is handy and easy.
09:46
I think you were a cop at some point.
09:48
You may have drawn from your dad's
09:50
experiences.
09:52
You were the most overworked
09:54
and underpaid person
09:56
when it came to the police force
09:58
and journalists.
10:00
The pay is not great.
10:02
That is the reality that you
10:04
hope to say.
10:06
It is not easy being a cop.
10:08
There is a mental stress.
10:10
There was not a particular
10:12
time.
10:14
There were a lot of trends.
10:16
I could not go to a family function.
10:18
I could not go to a movie
10:20
that my wife wanted to see.
10:22
I could not go shopping.
10:24
I could not go to a wedding.
10:26
There is a profession that
10:28
is a hindrance to everything.
10:30
There is a depression
10:32
for a person who
10:34
has been frustrated for a long time.
10:36
He does not react to
10:38
a mechanical thing.
10:40
He is a character like that.
10:42
He is a character like that.
10:44
He is a character like that.
10:46
He is a character like that.
10:48
He does not have a particular
10:50
ambition.
10:52
He is a character that
10:54
he wants to be.
10:56
I like that.
10:58
There are a lot of people
11:00
in this phase.
11:02
They have not done anything
11:04
at that time.
11:06
They do not have an identity.
11:08
Even the ordinary people
11:10
do not have an identity.
11:12
They want a conflict.
11:14
They do not want an ordinary life.
11:16
It has to be something
11:18
apart from that.
11:20
There is a big area
11:22
for Bollywood films.
11:24
People from all categories
11:26
should be seen.
11:28
If they are satisfied,
11:30
they should be shown on that canvas.
11:32
We have a lot of literacy here.
11:34
People are sensible.
11:36
They can criticize anything.
11:38
It is a freedom industry.
11:40
We are conscious.
11:42
We do not want to be
11:44
a troll.
11:46
We want to do our best.
11:48
We want to do our best.
11:50
We want to do our best.
11:52
There will be some stops.
11:54
There will be some commitments.
11:56
We want to do our best.
11:58
We want to get the audience to like it.
12:02
This is an anti-Nepal baby.
12:04
You do not have a famous father.
12:06
You do not have a bollster.
12:08
You do everything yourself.
12:20
It is not easy to survive.
12:22
The entry may be easy.
12:24
If you have to survive,
12:26
you have to show your mettle.
12:28
If this is not there,
12:30
we have to act a little.
12:32
We have to update the technology
12:34
In the past, acting was not a thing. Now, we have changed.
12:37
Now, we have to deliver the dialogues.
12:40
Because we have to change it in Cannes when we shoot a film.
12:44
If we make a mistake, we have to deliver the dialogues.
12:49
Now, when we digitalize, we have a lot of time and resources.
12:54
Now, acting has improved.
12:56
Now, I am comfortable with digital.
13:00
In the past, I didn't have that.
13:01
But, you are not a nepo baby. That's the whole point.
13:04
In the beginning, you didn't have any help. Are you proud of yourself?
13:07
I can't say that I didn't have any help.
13:10
Who helped you?
13:11
My father used to do drama in Police Lines.
13:13
My father acted in a lot of movies.
13:16
I am inspired by my father.
13:18
My father's connections.
13:20
Maybe, after I came to the film industry,
13:22
or after I came to the serial industry,
13:24
they might have thought about my connections.
13:26
In the beginning, I got a lot of support.
13:29
Maybe, it's because of my father's connections.
13:31
I can't say that I am self-made.
13:33
After I came, I tried a lot to be updated and improve.
13:36
That is self.
13:37
Well done. Thank you for entertaining us.
13:40
We watched a lot of movies and laughed a lot.
13:41
So, it's very good. Thank you so much.
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