"Six Months Wasted in Grand Alliance, 75% Blame on PTI" Fawad Chaudhry

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00:00I was just asking Mr. Kamran Murtaza,

00:02because we just met at Mr. Achadzai's farmhouse.

00:05It ended a while ago.

00:06Mr. Kamran says that

00:07there is a possibility of an all-parties conference,

00:09but some things have yet to be decided between us and the PTI.

00:12After that, we'll see if we want to be a part of it or not.

00:15And when I asked about Mr. Wazir Adam's arrival,

00:17he said that someone had stepped on Mr. Maulana's foot

00:20and his foot was injured.

00:21So, he had come to pay his respects.

00:23That's all.

00:24In your opinion…

00:25Even I had a similar joke.

00:28So, in your opinion,

00:30will the PTI and Mr. Maulana be able to get along so well

00:33that they can walk together on the streets?

00:35I think Manila is very far away.

00:37Do you think it's close, Mr. Fawad?

00:39No.

00:40Look, it was six months ago.

00:42And 75% of it was the fault of the PTI.

00:45When they started talking,

00:49and this constitutional amendment…

00:52When I spoke to Mr. Maulana,

00:54he said that in the constitutional amendment,

00:57the formula for the constitutional benches

00:59was brought by the PTI itself.

01:01Mr. Salman Akram Raja drafted it.

01:03So, when there were things at the end,

01:05they should have sat down and told us

01:07that this is acceptable and this is not acceptable.

01:10Then the PTI said that

01:12we will not talk directly to the Noon League

01:15and the People's Party.

01:17And bypassing Mr. Achak Zahi and Mr. Maulana,

01:20you sat down with them.

01:22So, look, this was the thing for six months.

01:25You know, in your program,

01:27I have been saying for months

01:29that it is necessary for the opposition alliance

01:31to be formed and there is no other way.

01:33But anyway, I met Mr. Mukhtar Khan

01:36and I gave him a lot of strength and said,

01:38Sir, look, there is a fight with the establishment.

01:41Then there is a fight with your government parties.

01:43And now we understand that

01:45we have to fight with all the opposition parties.

01:47So, this is difficult.

01:49But he said that I have already said

01:51that there should be an alliance and things should move forward.

01:54But unfortunately, because there is a lot of capacity issue,

01:57because of that, it was delayed.

01:59And I agree with you that

02:01it will take time for this alliance

02:03to move towards street movement.

02:06A lot of things are yet to be decided.

02:09Yes, okay.

02:10And Mr. Fawad, please explain this to us.

02:12We were all very surprised.

02:13Then you removed some of our surprise.

02:15But please analyze this a little.

02:17On the one hand, we can see that

02:19there are a lot of tweets and statements.

02:21In this situation, there is no one else.

02:23In fact, the minister of the province

02:25comes on television and tells in detail

02:27that after 26th November,

02:2988% was decided, then 99% was decided.

02:31Now there is another meeting.

02:33Then almost everything will be decided.

02:35Then if someone moves back, then that responsibility.

02:37So, it seems that everything has been decided since Fawad.

02:39Now only the announcement is left.

02:41Mr. Khan told you that there is nothing like this.

02:43So, Mr. Ali, what was to be communicated?

02:45What was this?

02:48See, Ali Ameen is also trying.

02:51Minister Saif is also trying.

02:53Because they have relations.

02:55There are relations on both sides.

02:57And they are also heard.

03:00But the issue is that

03:02what I talked to Mr. Khan,

03:04he said the same thing.

03:06See, our issue is

03:08going to Benigala from here

03:10or going to Naxian Gali

03:12or going to such a place is not.

03:14If this thing had to be accepted,

03:16then it would have been offered in Benigala itself.

03:18What happened with Nawaz Sharif,

03:20what happened with the BBS party,

03:22then it would have been done.

03:24But look at Imran Khan, he will not come to this.

03:26There is only one issue on which

03:28there will be a discussion.

03:30And that is when the election will take place.

03:32And the thing that can be asked from Imran Khan

03:34in the election is

03:36how much time are you ready to give?

03:38Now, of course,

03:40the people of the Noon League or the government

03:42or the establishment say give two years.

03:44PTI will not say to do it in six months.

03:46In the meantime,

03:48a time limit can be set

03:50and should be.

03:52Apart from this, there is no point

03:54in any more negotiations.

03:56The problem of PTI is also that

03:58the people who sit in negotiations

04:00or do it,

04:02they also need their capacity

04:04that you can make formulas,

04:06you can make things,

04:08that is also a little problem.

04:10Isn't there that capacity in Mr. Gandapur?

04:12I mean,

04:14Gandapur is a very strong worker.

04:16Very good,

04:18we will go with Imran Khan,

04:20he will do it.

04:22But if you say that he can do it himself,

04:24he cannot do it.

04:26What is your opinion on the issue of salary?

04:28You think it has increased today.

04:30The speaker said that whoever has an objection,

04:32write it down and give it,

04:34we will not increase it.

04:36What is your opinion on this?

04:38No, this is absolutely the right decision.

04:40Except that such a parliament has done

04:42which is not a representative.

04:44If a representative did parliament,

04:46then this is a very good decision.

04:48And the reason for this is that ultimately

04:50you have to give incentive to the middle class

04:52to do politics.

04:54If you have to out the middle class

04:56and traditionally it used to happen

04:58that if you go a little,

05:00then in the first elections

05:02only the taxpayer could vote.

05:04If you are not a taxpayer

05:06and are not affiliated with the government,

05:08then you gave the right to vote

05:10to the common man.

05:12You see, you have to bring the common man

05:14to the parliament.

05:16Like most of the PTI people

05:18have spent a lot of money.

05:20Most of them are middle class people.

05:22When MQM was in Karachi,

05:24most middle class people

05:26come from there.

05:28So in these parties,

05:30you have to encourage the middle class

05:32to make politics their career.

05:34So it is necessary to have a good salary

05:36for the common man.

05:38If you look at the salary of judges

05:40which is the highest in South Asia,

05:42I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

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