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Modernizing Mortgage: Bridging Origination & Servicing with ICE
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2/6/2025
ICE Mortgage Technology unifies origination and servicing with AI and data integration for a seamless mortgage experience.
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And we are live from MBA Servicing.
00:07
My guest is Tim Bohler, President of ICE Mortgage Technology.
00:11
Tim, it is so great to speak to you today.
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Diego, it's great to be hosted.
00:15
So I really appreciate the chance to connect with you and your readers, your listeners.
00:20
So it's a fabulous opportunity for me.
00:22
Yeah.
00:23
So before we dive in, could you briefly introduce yourself and also your role at ICE?
00:29
Sure.
00:30
So Tim Bohler, the President of ICE Mortgage Technology, which is the business that we
00:36
have at Intercontinental Exchange, or what's commonly referred to as ICE, that really provides
00:42
core technology to the origination and servicing business here in the United States of America.
00:46
So we're a combination of a number of legacy organizations that many of your readers or
00:50
listeners will be familiar of.
00:52
The Legacy Black Knight Company, the Legacy LA Made Company, the Legacy Merge, which serves
00:58
as the end of the system of record for servicing, as well as the Legacy Simplifile, which does
01:03
recording of security interests at the county level.
01:06
So at ICE, we pulled these companies together over really the last decade to try to provide
01:12
a unified technological approach to the housing finance industry.
01:16
Right.
01:17
Let's talk a little bit more about that unification.
01:20
You've made some investments since the acquisition of Black Knight in bridging what has kind
01:25
of been a historical divide between origination and servicing technology.
01:32
How is that investment going, and how is it impacting your clients?
01:36
So I'll answer your question very directly, well.
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But I think on that point, it's really important to anchor with what we're trying to help the
01:45
industry accomplish, which is a fundamentally much better homeowner household experience.
01:51
So historically, there's just been very much a disconnect between the underlying process
01:57
of getting a mortgage relative to how that service and the technology then underpinned
02:01
that.
02:02
And at ICE, we have a vision that by creating a unified ecosystem where that technology
02:07
is unified around that point of origination and what's necessary to complete that file,
02:13
to get that mortgage funded, get that mortgage recorded and registered, and then have those
02:17
key data points and documents flow seamlessly into your system of record for servicing to
02:22
help that servicer interface with the household as dynamically and as appropriately as possible.
02:27
It's just going to create a win-win-win for the whole housing finance system in the US.
02:33
Households will have a better experience with their originator because there'll be technology
02:36
first, meeting that household where they want to be met within the context of the point
02:40
of origination.
02:43
With the servicer, whether it's retained servicing or sold servicing, the servicer is just going
02:48
to know that household better.
02:49
They're going to know the background of that household from the point of origination.
02:52
They're going to be able to interface with that household on a much more intuitive basis
02:56
and value-add basis, and then help that household, from my perspective, much more dynamically
03:02
as they go through that life of loan journey.
03:05
When's the right time to refinance?
03:08
Is it right to consider a home equity loan within the context of certain life circumstances
03:12
or on that best day in anybody's housing journey when you've made that last payment, you own
03:16
the house free and clear, helping get that lien released without any sweat by the household?
03:23
Really that's our anchoring point, which is how can we use technology to help households
03:28
have a better experience through our partners that provide origination and or servicing
03:36
services?
03:37
That ecosystem, you mentioned that as a key word in your last response, it sounds really
03:43
different from, certainly my experience as a homeowner, going from the purchase to being
03:48
serviced.
03:49
Yes.
03:50
Can you dig a little bit more on that ecosystem concept and how it's going to change things?
03:56
It fundamentally gets anchored in the data, knowing that household.
04:02
More often than not, historically, a loan would be originated for a household.
04:06
It would be either moved to the servicing department if it was retained servicing, so
04:10
the originator retained servicing, or in many instances, the servicing would be sold.
04:15
To another third party, it would actually collect the mortgage payments.
04:20
Through those processes, just core pieces of information would get lost.
04:25
A fundamental understanding of the household that got that mortgage would break down.
04:31
That would really inhibit that servicer from engaging with that household in really a much
04:36
more user-friendly, dynamic, and in many often ways, value-add basis.
04:42
Our thought process was that if we can unify those technological platforms, the point of
04:48
origination through that life of loan arrangement that that servicer has for that household
04:54
and have those data sets be consistent, have the underlying documents be saved in a safe
04:59
repository so if they ever need to be referenced within the context of a refinancing or a home
05:04
equity loan, or as I mentioned earlier, a paying off a loan, you make it easier for
05:08
the servicer.
05:09
That would create a much better system overall and really help us deliver for our client
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base.
05:15
Probably from an ROI perspective, retention and recapture is such an issue.
05:20
This has to improve that, I would imagine.
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I'll give you the simplest example.
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Knock on some wood around here if I can find it, that we get interest rates to go down
05:29
in this country and folks that have had the burden of having to take on these high mortgages
05:34
over the last two and a half years and really felt the affordability crunch that we're all
05:39
going through.
05:40
If we can get them to refinance much more efficiently when rates do drop and be able
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to process that refinancing in a matter of weeks as opposed to a matter of months, then
05:50
they can start to benefit from those savings of that lower interest rate a lot faster.
05:54
By being able to provide tools for servicers to basically leverage that information that
05:58
rests in MSP, which is our servicing system of record, get that into Encompass, which
06:05
is our loan origination system, and the supporting consumer engagement software that we have,
06:11
you can just help turn that refinancing around faster at a much more transparent rate for
06:15
the household in which they then value that housing-finance relationship they have with
06:20
you as a servicer and, as I said earlier, start saving money faster, which always makes
06:25
everybody happy.
06:26
Yeah, it's all about CSAT and a commodity offering, so this improves customer satisfaction.
06:32
A hundred percent.
06:33
It really does, right?
06:34
If you're interfacing with your servicer, you've noticed rates dropped or your servicer
06:39
has been proactively and positively engaging with you saying, hey, we noticed you can save
06:44
$200 a month, $300 a month, and if you can just work with our portal here to load up
06:50
these core documents and we can get you refinanced in under a couple of weeks and start saving
06:54
that money, households are going to respond to that, and they're going to have just a
06:58
much more favorable impression of their overall housing-finance journey.
07:03
So let's talk about technology.
07:05
I know that's a big focus for you at ICE.
07:09
People are talking about artificial intelligence and how it's going to transform the mortgage
07:12
process.
07:13
How are you integrating new technology into your platform at ICE?
07:19
That's a great question, and it's really foundational and fundamental.
07:23
For us, we're looking at the generative AI tools, large language models, machine learning
07:29
to really try to drive efficiency in the system to basically free up human capacity to do
07:34
more value-added activities.
07:36
So a couple simple examples, which is stair and compare work.
07:41
There's just way too much stair and compare work in this industry, and we're using data
07:46
and document recognition tools, indexing tools, file construction tools to basically reduce
07:51
the amount of human involvement there is within the context of originating loan, servicing
07:56
loan, or if a servicing transfer occurs, being able to basically allow that to happen much
08:00
more efficiently so the borrower or the household can be engaged with by that new servicer with
08:05
the least amount of friction or hiccups.
08:08
On the customer service side, we've done a phenomenal amount of work that's really paid
08:14
off within the context of our predictions on when a household is going to interface
08:18
with us, whether that be when they're calling into the call center, whether they're thinking
08:22
about how those servicers can engage with them around changes in their escrow payments.
08:27
We've done a lot of large data mining, a lot of large data studies that have helped us
08:32
be able to push back to our core clients, our servicer base, those predictive models
08:37
around when their clients, those households are going to need their help or have questions,
08:42
such that those servicers can either meet them in advance digitally, or when that household
08:47
calls into the servicer, that call center professional can be like, oh, I see you're
08:53
calling.
08:54
My guess is you're probably calling in because of ABC issue.
08:57
And then the household's like, yeah, that's great.
08:59
You know why I'm calling.
09:00
Right.
09:01
And then the call is very positive, and they can solve the problem a lot quicker.
09:03
So it's really driving to find ways to free up human capital, human talent at the originator
09:11
of the servicer to do those more high value tasks of making their clients, those borrowers
09:17
happier.
09:18
Tim, it has been really fascinating chatting with you today.
09:22
Love this bridge that you're building between origination and servicing.
09:26
Thank you so much.
09:27
Thank you so much.
09:28
I really appreciate it.
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