"PECA Law: 'We’ll Point Out Constitutional Conflicts to President Zardari" PFUJ President Afzal Butt

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00:00Now the issue is that the bills have been sent to the President immediately.

00:08We can only hope that if Zardari is even a little bit honest in his statement that

00:15no, no, no, we want to talk and make it happen, then the President should not sign it.

00:21He didn't even do it on the Madrasa Bill. But there is an issue.

00:26He was requested not to do it on the Madrasa Bill.

00:29Now this bill has come from the Interior.

00:32You know where the Interior Minister has come from.

00:35So will he be able to stop it on this bill?

00:38Sir, look, the statements that you have made are being made by the government.

00:43During this bill, we told the government that neither are we against rules and regulations,

00:50nor are we against the mother pigeon freedom.

00:53We are the biggest victims of fake news and the biggest opponents.

00:58So we want to have a meaningful consultation.

01:02We were also present in those meetings.

01:05But if the intention was right and not superstitious,

01:10then people all over the world are looking for stakeholders to come and talk to.

01:17Here, the organization of five stakeholders was running after the government

01:22that we want that there should be rules and regulations in Pakistan.

01:27We are against mother pigeon freedom.

01:29But they have lied everywhere.

01:31They have said yes, we will talk, we are doing it now.

01:34How many times have we sent them those written things?

01:37First of all, I would like to talk about what they are telling the public.

01:42Secondly, there is Abbal in Asif Ali Zardari's court.

01:46We request him to invite senior journalists from our Joint Action Committee.

01:54We will tell them which of the Shikhs are against the law of Pakistan,

02:01which of the Shikhs are against human rights, which of the Shikhs are against press freedom.

02:06How can you criticize those people who are doing nonsense?

02:11You want to criticize them, I want to criticize them,

02:15but none of us is a supporter of them.

02:18But if Mr. Zardari raises the same objections and sends the bill back to the parliament,

02:24Mr. Nawaz Sharif should intervene,

02:27he should explain to his community and his government that now you are getting a second chance.

02:32He should sit with the senior journalists and praise fake news.

02:37Will you do it or will a sub-inspector do it?

02:40A sub-inspector will do it.

02:42What they are saying is that this bill is an initiative of the government.

02:48I don't think the government made it.

02:51I think the government just processed it.

02:54In the past, when such bills used to come, the Ministry of Information used to draft them.

03:00This time it came from the interior.

03:02So many things are not being adopted.

03:05So Mr. Zardari, first tell us, you are sitting in Karachi,

03:08you have a lot of interest there.

03:11Will Mr. Zardari not do it?

03:13Will he send it back?

03:15Will there be a chance?

03:16After that, we will discuss the future strategy.

03:19Sir, this evening I met a very important minister of the Sindh government at a reception.

03:29And we talked to him about what Mr. Bhatt was saying,

03:34that Mr. Zardari should meet the Joint Action Committee.

03:37Call the Joint Action Committee and talk to them.

03:41Listen to them and see how much weight they have in their talk.

03:45Now this court and court rules, the minister said that yes,

03:49I will try to get this message, provided that they do not sign tonight.

03:55So now the way it is, it seems that maybe they will sign,

04:00but the protest that took place today,

04:03it is possible that the pressure of that protest has been felt somewhere.

04:08If they had not signed, then I think that today's protest would have been a great success.

04:15And if they sign, then we have been fighting, we will continue to fight.

04:21But the people who come and stand with us tomorrow will be exposed.

04:25Because signing means that the party, because they are not just the president of the country,

04:32they are also the president of the Pakistan People's Party Parliamentarian.

04:36He is also the co-chairman of the Pakistan People's Party Parliamentary.

04:42So if they sign, it means that the concern of the People's Party is included in it.

04:49So this will be their test today, whether they sign or not.

04:53Tell me one thing, I am also looking at it from another angle.

04:56I feel that if something was going towards improvement between the establishment or PTI,

05:03if there was a little possibility, then this law would not have passed at this time,

05:10in 15 minutes, they pushed it through everywhere.

05:17This means that there will be more strictness in the coming days.

05:20There will be more limits.

05:22This is why a pre-emptive environment has been created so that the media cannot talk.

05:27Sir, you will remember and Mr. Bhatt will also remember.

05:31When Maryam Aurangzeb was the Information Minister, a bill was being prepared overnight.

05:36And they did not know about it.

05:40When they were informed that this bill was going to be presented the next day,

05:45it was a good thing that they changed the Information Officer.

05:53Exactly the same kind of legislation was going to be done in Sindh.

05:57On which I called Nasir Shah at that time.

06:00I said, are you seeing what is coming?

06:04So he was stopped.

06:05At least in Sindh it happened that he was stopped.

06:07Then a committee was formed which is now considering it.

06:10So it is being thought about how to impose restrictions on thinking.

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