How will the Texans' offensive line look next year?

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The Texans will have to make changes on their offensive line in 2025. Who do you expect to still be around? The Drive's Clint Stoerner and Ron Hughley discuss it here.

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00:00Clint, and I've seen some people jumping in on this thing as well.

00:07The Texans have Laramie Tunzel and Titus Howard both under contract and have pretty good contracts.

00:15They can move on from Shaq Mason.

00:16He's under contract though.

00:18Ju Scruggs, they just moved up in the second round two years ago and they drafted him.

00:24They just drafted Blake Fisher last year in the second round.

00:31Obviously Kenyon Green is still there and they've got Patterson as well who started

00:38at the center spot.

00:40So they've got a lot of guys that can be options.

00:43They could run back with the same offensive line if they want to.

00:47How many guys for you?

00:48How many guys on the starting offensive line next year do you think should not come from

00:57what's in this building?

01:00How many guys should not come from the building?

01:03How many guys that are in the building right now?

01:06Do I think will or should?

01:07Let's go both.

01:08How many do you think will?

01:11I think Laramie Tunzel will be the left tackle.

01:14I think Titus Howard will be the right tackle.

01:16I think Ju Scruggs will factor into the middle somehow.

01:19So you think there's potential for two new spots?

01:22To be gone.

01:23Yes.

01:24Probably the guards.

01:25They really want him to be a center but I don't know how quickly that communication issue

01:33is solved in a year where you played more guard than you did center or stayed injured

01:37or played guard more than you did center.

01:39So you think Patterson's probably not in as a starter?

01:42Yeah.

01:43Boy, Ron, to admit that you missed on Shaq, that you missed on Kenyon Green, and that

01:51you missed on Ju Scruggs, I think is a lot for this team, for this organization to admit.

02:03I think they pushed Ju Scruggs being in this lineup somehow.

02:05Which I think is right.

02:06I think Ju Scruggs is...

02:07I do.

02:08I got a lot of...

02:09And you think Blake is still on the bench?

02:11Yes.

02:13Yes.

02:14I do not believe Blake is...

02:17Not as long as you got Titus and Laramie on the team.

02:21Now that's what I think is going to happen.

02:23Now what I think should happen is I think they should try their damnedest to move Laramie

02:27Tunsell and the reasons that everybody will call me crazy for it is the reason why I'm

02:34even saying it, because he's tradable.

02:38Like right now, you ain't moving Kenyon Green.

02:41You ain't moving Shaq Mason.

02:45The guy that has value on this offensive line that you could move and get something in return

02:51is Laramie Tunsell.

02:52Now I don't know if that's...

02:54I said they can't.

02:55I don't know if that's doable or not, but if I were the Texans, I would move on from

03:00Laramie Tunsell.

03:02I would play Titus Howard at left tackle if need be.

03:06Either work with Blake Fisher or find somebody else and then you leave Juice Grugs in the

03:12middle and figure out what you're going to do with the other two middle line positions.

03:17To me, I would say three guys and it would be...

03:22I'm sorry, two guys and it would be Juice Grugs and Titus Howard and then you got to

03:28find the rest.

03:29Is Blake Fisher a guy?

03:30I don't know.

03:32You got to find two of your three interior offensive linemen.

03:37The Blake Fisher thing is interesting.

03:41To me, I think one of the tackles should be gone.

03:45Not just do I think should be, but I think it has to be a real thought of it because

03:52I don't know that Stephon Diggs is going to be back and if he's not, then you lost a second

03:58round pick with that because that's what you traded him for a second round pick for

04:02what eight or nine games and then you used a second round pick and these are valuable

04:09picks.

04:10These are guys that come out and play immediately and then you used another second round pick

04:14on a player that's not going to really play for the first two years and Blake Fisher,

04:21when you're trying to get to another spot, that's why it almost feels like to me, I wonder

04:25what's the thought is like, does he, do we, do we need to get him in?

04:29He started the last several few games of the year.

04:31Do we need to get him in?

04:32Does he like, that's, that's the other part.

04:35Here's the thing with Blake Fisher.

04:36I would not be opposed to Blake Fisher at right tackle Titus Howard at left tackle.

04:40And here's, here's my, the, the reason behind it, right?

04:43I think Titus had left.

04:44You would.

04:45Yes, I would.

04:46If it were me, I would start with moving.

04:49Again, one, he's got value.

04:51He's got a name.

04:52He's got a reputation.

04:53I think you can move him and get good return to, I don't believe that you're going to change

04:59Titus Howard, juice grugs in this offensive line.

05:03As long as Laramie Tunsil is doing Laramie Tunsil things and he's got a C on his chest

05:07and he's the highest paid offensive lineman and he's setting the standard in the tone.

05:11I just don't, I don't, I don't think that's doable.

05:14I just don't.

05:16And so for me, I think you get an offensive coordinator in here that if Blake Fisher is

05:24a tackle, we'll demand that a tight end and a running back have the ability to chip, have

05:31the, but you see Saquon Barkley, a pastor tech this weekend, by the way, like have the

05:34ability to, to literally help the young fella instead of getting his way or, or leave him

05:39hanging out to dry and critical situations.

05:42Blake Fisher will be a better player.

05:43Yeah.

05:44Right.

05:45He'll be a better player because of that.

05:46So I would not be opposed to Blake Fisher being, being a tackle.

05:50I don't know how they feel about Blake in terms of, of moving forward, but I think the

05:56biggest move that can be made on this team and have the biggest impact on this offense

06:01as a whole is if they move on from Laramie Tunsil.

06:03Yeah, I think they, yeah, I think they got to move on from one of the tackles.

06:08I feel like Blake Fisher has to be in this to me, at least given an opportunity in the

06:13start lineup, because I mean, just, I mean, you've already, like I said, you, you've lost

06:17a second round pick if you don't bring back digs.

06:20And then, and I don't think you should, I think you were talking about digs in his thirties

06:23coming off an ACL.

06:24I don't know that that's, that's the move to pay him the money and other ones sitting

06:30on the bench, not, not doing anything for a group that gave up 63 sacks the previous

06:37year.

06:38So you think about it, Ron, from a wide receiver position, I don't, I don't mean to pull your

06:41convo off in the ditch, but like, I don't even know why I'm thinking of this guy, but,

06:46but it's just, it just like, how, how lethal would CJ Stroud be with a guy like James Palmer?

06:55Is it James Palmer?

06:56Josh Palmer.

06:57Yeah.

06:58James, Josh, James is probably a very quick receiver.

07:00He'd be more of a possession guy.

07:01I'm talking about Josh Palmer, the kid, a guy like that, a guy like that as, as a two

07:07right.

07:08Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, like a two or three, right?

07:10Like how lethal would this offense be with a bigger bodied, separate guy that can separate

07:16a guy that can go up and get a 50, 50 ball, right?

07:20It's not Mike Evans, but he's a poor man's 50, 50 ball.

07:24Go get her.

07:25He's a poor man's big bodied wide receiver, meaning he's not going to go make 30 million

07:29a year.

07:30But he, but like how nasty would CJ's offense be with CJ being an offense where you got

07:36obviously Niko Collins, but your two or three receiver is a bigger bodied proven depth receiver.

07:44Like a Josh Palmer, like, like an agent, uh, Keenan Allen, um, you know, like somebody

07:50like that, that is, you can depend on him to be at the right depth.

07:56He can block the right shoulder.

07:58He goes up and make plays in a red zone.

08:00I mean, everything we've seen CJ work with beyond Niko Collins has been little dudes

08:05trying to create separation on routes that take forever.

08:10To me, that's the kind of move that man, instead of the digs, like I like digs, but instead

08:14of the digs conversation, what about somebody like that?

08:17That is well cheaper, but as much of a physical threat as, as a, you know, get you, I can

08:26run you this nasty ass route at 15 yards and I can shake the hell out of you and create

08:31separation when I come out of the cut, but I hope you can hold the ball that long.

08:34Yeah.

08:35You know what I mean?

08:36And look, I'm not, I like, I won't tank to come back tomorrow, but just in the time being,

08:41I would like the Texas to go find a guy like that.

08:43Yeah.

08:44And, and, and be honest with you, the draft is a spot that that can happen.

08:47I mean, that can happen in the draft, which you know, to me is why, like I, it's hard

08:52for me to see digs coming back, but yeah, this, this offensive line is wild.

08:57And, and, and, and honestly, I do feel like whoever is hired as the OC could be a telling

09:05point on what this old line looks like.

09:09Like no question, because it better be right.

09:12It can't be go hire a guy that has a certain way of doing things.

09:15And then we just keep everything status quo because Nick signed them or hire somebody

09:18that is in house that will more of the same or, or, or work with this.

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