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'Train Dreams' Writer on Adapting the 2011 Novella | THR Studio at Park City
The Hollywood Reporter
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1/27/2025
'Train Dreams' writer and director Clint Bentley drops by the THR studio at Park City with lead actor Joel Edgerton to discuss the creation of the movie adaptation of the 2011 novella.
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I have done bricklaying for loving, I could build a wall, I think I could still build a wall.
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I look like I have a worker's hands on the outside but they're a little softer on the inside
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because of my day job.
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It was actually, I read it many many years ago when it first came out and it was the first
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Dennis Johnson piece of writing I'd ever read and it just happened to be like I was getting out of
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college I think at the time and it came out and I just I read it and I was blown away and then
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I devoured everything else he had written and I just became a huge Dennis Johnson fan and then
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fast forward to and Joel also has a history with the book that precedes us making the film together
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and then fast forward to I had made Jockey and it had premiered here and and a couple of producers
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had the rights to the book and were trying to find a filmmaker to make the book into a movie
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and they saw Jockey and felt like I might be a good fit and I don't know that I would have had
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the courage to do it otherwise had they not asked but it was just like as soon as it the idea came
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across it just felt like the most exciting thing. I don't really often get to read for pleasure
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you know I'm a slow reader I read a lot for work and so sometimes I equate reading now with
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like like part of part of a job and somebody had gifted me the novella at the end of a job and I
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read it you know for pleasure and was so taken with it and you know I'm also a filmmaker and I
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I was so taken with it that I made an inquiry about the rights to the book and of course they
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were taken and I was like look it was you know so be it and then years later when Clint contacted me
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it felt like somebody had really it felt like something special was in the air I was like how
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did somebody know that I was so taken with this story and so I felt very lucky and then
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I was very nervous about reading a screenplay because I remembered that you know any any book
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or novella is a challenge to translate into a film. The script was so well such an accomplished
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version of the book in the screenplay and then you know and I watched Clint's film Jockey and
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and it's it's very rare often that sometimes you get a nice script and then you're not so sure about
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the way the or the other elements to be kind you know or you you you want to work with a great
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filmmaker and then you're not connected with the script but this felt like everything really lined
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up and I felt very privileged that they were asking me to do it and I felt that by this stage
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of my life I do know myself well enough of what aspects of me felt appropriate for this and I felt
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like it was something that I could wear quite well so it was it was cool that it happened.
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After Joel came on then we were like it was like okay now let's find our Gladys and and that's such
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a a difficult character to to try and get right and Joel and Felicity had known each other and
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wanted to work together for a while and um and I've been a huge fan of hers forever and and so
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she just like it was just one of those where she just felt so perfect for it that you're like I
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hope she doesn't say no because I don't know who next. His sensitivity to the way he spoke about the
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material the way he approached things as a writer and as a filmmaker that I had complete trust in
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him and it was easy for me to share that information with her and actors often like feel
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safe with each other you know who am I going to be working with and is it going to be a good
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experience and you don't have a crystal ball but you can have an instinct for the someone so I
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definitely um you know I was blowing Clint's trumpet to her if that's the right way of putting it of
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saying how much faith I had in the process and and and as a collaborator because
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Clint and Greg as writers uh part of their power is is not to assume complete control over something
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is that filmmaking is such a collaborative situation anyway and if actors have thoughts
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about things it's important to um listen to them but not listen to all of them
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because we can have some pretty terrible ideas too what okay what is your affinity not affinity
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for talent for like anything with working with your hands manual labor any of that like would
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you have any skills to offer as a real life person you'll be in a real right there tomorrow
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you'd be great I have done bricklaying uh for loving I could build a wall I think I could still
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build a wall I look like I have a worker's hands on the outside but they're a little softer on the
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inside because of my day job um I like doing uh films I guess where I get to learn skills and
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do things that are that are physical because I think that um um as much as I obsess over the
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interior life of characters the the physical nature of work is so important some of my favorite
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actors are people who who bring the the character into their whole body rather than just their voice
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or their eyes um but I also have a whole history in my family of men that were workers you know
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before my father um his father was a was a uh train driver and and before that a whole lineage
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of farmers which my father was going to carry on except that he got sort of railroaded at um
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uh at university this sort of he was on his way to to go and enroll in uh what was called sheep
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husbandry and his friends were like Mick we're going off to become lawyers you know and there's
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lots of money in it he was like um okay and my life may now be not sitting here but being the
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son of a farmer you know inheriting a farm or something it's it's interesting how generations
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and that speaks to the film as well about how life lived could be one thing or another and
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and how one decision like that can like ripple across generations now
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and you know well I feel like I'm of a generation where I got to take charge
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of my own future you know I didn't have to inherit something or presume to inherit something
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um and and there's something really nice about this film that I responded to and that you know
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this idea of the significance and insignificance of all of our lives we will all be forgotten
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unless we're you know some criminal or a politician or a famous artist of some kind
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that's written into history but we all contribute to the world and and we're all insignificant
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and will be forgotten to a degree but we did contribute something or we brought new people
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into the world that you know continue the human race so I I feel there's a real potency and
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simplicity to the film does a movie of yours stick out as when you were talking about like
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learning skills and stuff for for jobs that was the hardest was one uh warrior for sure
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learning presuming at the you know I used to have a fighting background as a kid like just
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doing karate but warrior came around when I was in my mid-30s and I I had this sort of um
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cynical point of view that I was a bit too old to to learn all these new skills and I you know we
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we were proven forced to prove ourselves wrong and and I really admired having to go through a
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really intense work experience like that and prove you know for the future also is never to doubt
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what what you're capable of
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