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Juliette Lewis & Cast on First Being Pitched New Film 'By Design' | THR Studio at Park City
The Hollywood Reporter
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1/25/2025
Filmmaker Amanda Kramer and stars Juliette Lewis, Mamoudou Athie, Samantha Mathis, Robin Tunney discuss their new film 'By Design' while stopping by THR's studio at Park City.
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00:00
Carpet to me is a little sad.
00:02
Wall-to-wall carpet is a...
00:05
It brings me down a little bit.
00:10
I'm obsessed with the log line.
00:12
Did you write it?
00:14
I did.
00:14
Okay, incredible.
00:16
I'll just, I'll read it as the embodied voice.
00:18
A woman swaps bodies at the chair
00:20
and everyone likes her better as a chair.
00:22
Incredible.
00:22
Is that how you pitched it to all the,
00:24
this movie to all these folks?
00:26
Or did you give them a little bit more?
00:27
No, no.
00:28
These are intimate relationships.
00:29
I'm, of course, trying to lull them
00:31
and I'm trying to create real bonds.
00:33
I can't be glib with them.
00:35
But with the American public and beyond,
00:37
yeah, I'm pretty cheeky and glib.
00:39
Because you need to be.
00:41
Selling a movie or speaking of a movie in one sentence.
00:45
Yeah, you gotta capture them.
00:46
You do, you do.
00:47
You can't talk about nuance.
00:49
You have to get to it and reclaim.
00:52
I always like plot under wraps.
00:54
I'm a big fan of the log line plot under wraps.
00:58
Oh.
01:00
To create that mystery.
01:01
But I went anti-mystery and was obvious.
01:04
True, yeah.
01:05
So what nuance did you guys get
01:07
that lured you in on this one?
01:10
We had a general meeting,
01:12
which is very unique to have a general
01:15
and then immediately have a project
01:17
that resonated for me.
01:20
I thought it was a poetic piece.
01:23
And for me, it was a little bit about disappearing
01:28
and so completely, passionately wanting to disappear
01:32
and become othered.
01:34
So much so to be useful and coveted.
01:39
So all these themes spoke to me.
01:41
And I was doing other jobs
01:43
that were really into plot and plot and plot
01:46
and not so much character.
01:47
And then I found this one or she found me
01:51
and then we entered this wild, magical world.
01:55
This oasis with not plot.
01:59
And there was zero exposition.
02:01
It was such a joy and such a happy place to work.
02:05
It made me fall in love with acting again.
02:08
It was like every single person on the crew was an artist
02:12
and you were there to play and you felt so free.
02:15
And it's everything that Sundance is supposed to be about.
02:18
This movie would not get made within the studio system.
02:21
This is a movie that everybody is doing for love
02:23
and not to cater to the lowest common denominator.
02:26
It's just a piece of art.
02:28
It's like video, it's beautiful.
02:32
I remember my first phone call with Sam.
02:35
I was so nervous and my voice was breaking
02:38
and I even said to my manager,
02:40
can't it just be an email?
02:41
Cause I was so nervous.
02:43
Could you tell?
02:44
Oh my God, no, not at all.
02:47
I was so in awe of her.
02:49
I had read the script and just fell in love with it.
02:51
And then I went to your website
02:53
and I started watching your shorts and I was like,
02:55
oh my God, this woman is an auteur.
02:59
She has such vision.
03:01
She's so unique and unto herself, so bold.
03:05
And I just said, yes,
03:07
I have to jump into this woman's world.
03:11
I was blown away.
03:13
That's me.
03:13
Did you know,
03:14
were you told about the physicality of your role
03:18
when you signed on?
03:20
Was that part of it from the beginning?
03:22
I think everything was really in the script.
03:25
You know, it just felt very abundantly clear.
03:29
That's, you can't say that for everything,
03:30
but with this, you know,
03:32
there's an economy and there's a precision
03:35
and a focus to everything.
03:36
So do you kind of, I mean,
03:38
you'd have to ask Amanda if we got there,
03:40
but like, it just was like,
03:42
okay, well, this is what it is.
03:43
I'm not gonna question this.
03:45
This feels right, so let's do it.
03:46
And if she has an adjustment for me,
03:48
then she'll tell me.
03:50
Compare and contrast your own design aesthetic
03:53
with your character's apartment.
03:55
Oh, sadly, it's kind of similar.
03:57
Yeah, oh God damn.
03:59
Yeah, it's-
04:01
You're a minimalist?
04:02
It's just because I'm kind of,
04:03
I've just been so used to being transient.
04:06
Like I remember when I graduated
04:07
or was about to graduate school,
04:09
had a teacher, she was like, you know,
04:11
it's important for the first five years to live lightly
04:13
so you can go to a new job and, you know,
04:15
just be free to be an actor.
04:18
And I just continued that until my thirties.
04:20
And so, you know, I need to stop.
04:23
You need to get some, like-
04:24
You know, buy some stuff.
04:25
Do you want to go shopping?
04:26
Let's go shopping.
04:27
Let's do it.
04:28
I can't wait to see it.
04:29
Oh, listen, my God, I need some help.
04:32
But no, I mean, the thing that I loved about Olivier
04:35
especially was his taste.
04:38
And I don't know if it had a lot to do with Marta,
04:40
but his clothes.
04:41
Yeah.
04:43
The set design in your apartment was like just delicious.
04:47
Yeah.
04:48
But was that-
04:50
I felt the second I, that is so special to,
04:54
and I have not had a lot,
04:56
I've not experienced this before
04:58
where this space was,
05:01
and the way it's designed was as much a character
05:05
and gave you so much information about what you're playing.
05:09
But it was like cotton candy clouds,
05:11
a little, just the color scheme.
05:13
And I've seen those, that palette before
05:16
somewhere in the recesses of my mind.
05:20
It is based off of Thierry Muglet's Paris apartment.
05:25
That is what his apartment basically looks like.
05:28
But kind of generally,
05:31
I had said to the production designer, Grace,
05:35
who is incredible,
05:36
I said, we need a lot of carpet.
05:40
I'm going to need a lot of carpet.
05:41
I feel carpet is very important here.
05:43
And she was like, carpet, we're going to be,
05:45
you know, vacuuming nonstop.
05:47
And I was like, yeah, I don't care.
05:48
Don't care if it takes forever.
05:49
I'm going to need the carpet.
05:51
She's like, carpet's expensive.
05:52
I said, bring it in.
05:53
Because carpet to me is a little sad.
05:55
Wall to wall carpet is a,
05:58
it brings me down a little bit.
05:59
No, I didn't mean to be an idiot.
06:01
I was like, guys, we got to get rid of these carpets.
06:05
You can't ever clean it.
06:07
So it's like, it is sad.
06:08
And it's nice to start in these homes,
06:10
even though they're beautifully designed
06:12
with a low sadness of carpet.
06:15
I'm sorry to everybody who might.
06:17
Carpet.
06:19
Aesthetically, I want it in my movies,
06:21
but at home, I would not be able to keep up with it.
06:24
That's fair.
06:25
Has anyone thought about what type of chair
06:28
most connects with them?
06:29
Like what type of piece of furniture?
06:32
You know, guys, a nice lazy boy.
06:36
Nice to take your feet out.
06:39
With a cup holder or?
06:41
Yeah, throw in a cup holder.
06:43
Or a massager.
06:44
It'll be fine.
06:45
This is great.
06:46
Yeah, it'll be fine.
06:48
I can't, see, I can't shop for myself.
06:49
Yeah, they'll help me.
06:50
No, we're not getting you with those.
06:51
That's terrible.
06:53
A chair that, you know what I love?
06:57
I love like those like 90s high back dining room chairs
07:02
that have like a little bad upholstery,
07:05
the tiny strip that almost looks like a Vegas carpet.
07:08
They're a little zany, a little zany.
07:11
They're a little Beetlejuice, a little bit Beetlejuice.
07:14
That makes sense.
07:15
I love a churner chair.
07:16
Do you know what the churner chair is?
07:18
And our chair really reminds me of a churner
07:21
with those beautiful rounded arms.
07:24
I mean, I don't know that I'm like a churner,
07:26
but I aspire to be a churner, to be that elegant.
07:30
And I want just a big, fat, cuddly, stuffed chair
07:34
that I feel small in, whatever that says around me.
07:38
That you can disappear in.
07:39
Yes.
07:40
Disappear in.
07:42
You know, I'm not in charge of chairs at my house.
07:46
The interior designer has been, so.
07:49
Rights.
07:50
You are given the, yeah, I'm given the need to.
07:53
I don't decide about that stuff.
07:55
Fair.
07:55
OK, so our, let's see, my recurring question
07:57
I want to ask you guys, does anyone
07:59
have a movie that they watch over and over,
08:02
whether for comfort or inspiration?
08:05
Yeah, Your Name.
08:07
Your Name is a Japanese anime by Makoto Shinkai,
08:10
and it's one of the most beautiful films
08:11
I've ever seen in my life.
08:12
I highly recommend everyone to check it out.
08:15
That's one of my favorites.
08:16
He's so hot.
08:17
I can't change the channel of Terms of Endearment, as I'm.
08:20
That's such a good one.
08:21
I can't.
08:21
I saw it with my mother and my grandmother,
08:23
and they're both deceased.
08:25
So that's just so much sense memory for me,
08:29
watching that movie, which is why I geeked out
08:32
when I saw John Lithgow.
08:33
I loved it.
08:35
So beautiful, and that movie, I just got chills.
08:38
Yeah.
08:42
I'm going to go first, since I just saw it.
08:44
What about Bob?
08:45
There's a feeling behind this.
08:48
I went through a very dark period of my life,
08:50
or I was escaping a dark period, at 22.
08:54
And I couldn't actually watch dark things.
08:58
Almost Ren and Stimpy was too dark.
09:00
So I watched What About Bob all the time,
09:05
and Baby Steps became a mantra to live my life by.
09:10
Yeah.
09:11
Whenever I'm sad, I watch Planes, Trains, and the Lost
09:14
Planet.
09:14
It's a good one.
09:15
It makes me feel happy.
09:17
So there's moments that are really poignant, too.
09:19
John Candy was so good.
09:21
But it feels comforting, like you're
09:23
in the arms of an old friend.
09:26
I feel very stuck in an era.
09:29
I feel very stuck in the 20th century.
09:32
So it's all just everything, mostly 70s and 90s films.
09:38
But I always will watch all that jazz.
09:40
I always will watch The Player.
09:42
And I truly will always watch Reality Bites,
09:46
because it just reminds me of an era in my life
09:49
when being cool was, I just couldn't
09:54
get enough of, of which these three women are all
09:58
in movies where the coolness is so overwhelming.
10:01
When you're a young teen, you cannot
10:03
believe that there are people that cool in the world.
10:06
And you want to dress like them, and talk like them,
10:08
and look like them.
10:09
I always return.
10:11
I'm not going to play them out, but they are each in one
10:14
that I can call to memory right now,
10:16
where it's like, if I could look like that character,
10:18
I could be that character.
10:19
All right, I want to hear it.
10:21
OK.
10:22
You guys want to get me embarrassed?
10:24
Obviously, Robin in Empire Records, The Shaved Head.
10:29
I did not have a friend who wasn't like,
10:32
do we shave the head?
10:34
And I was like, would you not?
10:37
I mean, Pump Up the Volume is a deeply
10:40
personal and gorgeous film.
10:43
And for me, I'm terrified of Cape Fear,
10:45
so I can't call that one out, because I
10:47
have watched that movie like this, I think,
10:49
as most people do.
10:51
But Natural Born Killers.
10:53
It is just, you know, it's iconic forever.
10:57
Forever.
10:58
So those movies I definitely watch over and over again.
Recommended
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