"If you were so powerless, why did PTI knock on our door?" Irfan Siddiqui

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00:00The Prime Minister says that he and the military leadership are on the same page.

00:07You are also on the same page when it comes to negotiations.

00:10There is full empowerment from there as well.

00:15Because the PTI says that all the power is with them.

00:20They have the power.

00:22They will make the right decisions and whatever decisions are to be made.

00:27So what is your role in this?

00:30What is the relationship between Islamabad and Pindi in the matter of ongoing negotiations?

00:35Look, this decision of ours and the PTI to sit on a table and start a conversation.

00:44You keep in mind the months and years prior to this, the tensions.

00:50This was not a small decision.

00:52You asked what are the chances of success.

00:54Someone else also asked me.

00:56I said that if there are ten numbers, then we have already taken five numbers.

01:01Because we have already sat down.

01:03This sitting down is a big success in itself.

01:06And there should have been some tensions from this as well.

01:10Which I am seeing that is not happening.

01:13Anyhow, I think that the Prime Minister has decided to make a committee for negotiations.

01:21He also spoke to Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif.

01:25Who is the head of the party.

01:27In fact, according to my information, the members of the committee were also discussed.

01:32And they were also accepted.

01:34So, I am sure, I do not have the information,

01:37that they must have also spoken to the people you are pointing to.

01:44And the heads of ISPR have also said in a press conference that the process of dialogue has started.

01:52We welcome this.

01:54And the political parties should sit together.

01:56So, I do not think it is a problem to have a nod on one page.

02:01But it is necessary.

02:03If these negotiations have to be meaningful.

02:06In your opinion, the nod is fine in its place.

02:09It will be there for the start.

02:11But can these negotiations reach any conclusion without approval?

02:17Without approval.

02:20Look, I do not think that the word approval refers to a very big authority.

02:27That someone else has to approve it being the Prime Minister.

02:31Again, that can be a negotiation.

02:33The second thing is that if this is the condition of our helplessness,

02:37which is manifested in your conversation.

02:40And more than your conversation, they keep telling us that they are powerless.

02:44They could not arrange a meeting for us.

02:46They could not do this.

02:48So, I always counter question that if we are so powerless,

02:52if we have nothing in our hands, then why did you knock on our doors?

02:56Why did you come and sit with us?

02:58Or why are you demanding from us?

03:00Or why are you giving us a list of demands?

03:02Why do you come and sit in front of helpless, helpless people?

03:06You are very talented people.

03:08So, the reason for this is that from where they wanted to get this benefit,

03:12they did not get approval from Faizan Chashma.

03:17It is very clear.

03:18Those doors did not open.

03:20When those doors did not open, they came to our door.

03:23We welcomed them.

03:25We always told them to come and talk.

03:27They had reservations.

03:29They did not come.

03:30So, now when they come to our door…

03:32Yes, yes.

03:33Yes, yes.

03:34You say.

03:35No, you complete the point.

03:37I was saying that now that they have come to our door,

03:41they have come to our house.

03:43We respect them a lot.

03:45So, keep an eye on us.

03:47Do not stand at our door and look into any other light or window.

03:52Trust us.

03:54This is our job.

03:56This is the last question.

03:57Mr. Iqbal, the last question is this.

03:59Actually, Mr. Qaisar took the names of two judges who gave punishments.

04:03Shahrukh Arjuman and Humayun Dilawar.

04:06And they say that they can be made judges of the High Court,

04:10so that this happens in the future as well.

04:12If these judges are made,

04:14these two are the judges of the lower level,

04:18if they go to the High Court,

04:20then won't they get a punishment

04:22that first you controlled the Supreme Court with the 26th Amendment

04:26and now you are packing the High Court with the judges of your choice?

04:31Is it bad for the judges to be controversial even before the appointment?

04:39First of all, Mr. Malik,

04:41it is necessary to be controversial.

04:44One is that you have to deal with people

04:48who can make anything controversial,

04:53which cannot even be imagined.

04:56But what happened was that they made the appointment of the Army Chief controversial,

05:01that he is coming,

05:03for that they brought a real procession,

05:05after reaching Islamabad, Pindi,

05:07then they started discussions about the elevation of another judge.

05:13But all these things have never proved fruitful for them.

05:19Difficulties have arisen for them.

05:21What they should have done did not happen.

05:24And what they should have stopped,

05:26that happened.

05:28That is why I do not think that

05:30taking the names of the judges and

05:32condemning them,

05:34or trying to stop someone,

05:36you could not stop Asim Munir,

05:38if Allah had willed, that happened.

05:40The judges who have to come,

05:42and it is not necessary that if they come,

05:44then your appeal is in front of those two,

05:46in front of whom?

05:48In such games,

05:50confusing things,

05:52is not a good thing in my opinion.

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