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સપ્તક દિવસ 12 : તબલા - ઢોલક અને મૃદંગમની જુગલબંદી થઇ તો સારંગીએ એક સૂરે બાંધ્યા
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1/13/2025
અમદાવાદમાં સપ્તકના 12મા દિવસે હરીશ તિવારી, વિકાસ પરીખ, રોનુ મજુમદાર અને ફઝલ કુરેશી જેવા દિગ્ગજ લોકોએ પરફોર્મ કર્યુ.
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00:00
I am a resident of Uttar Pradesh, in the Devaraya district.
00:05
I am a resident of a village.
00:07
We did not have music at home.
00:09
My uncle encouraged me.
00:12
I sent my first guru, Pandit Thakur Chaubey, to Devaraya.
00:17
Then I went to Benaras, in Bhechu.
00:21
There, I learnt music from Pandit Ajit Bhattacharya and Ashaar-e-Nandan.
00:27
He was a student of Pandit Omkarnath.
00:31
Omkarnath was from Gujarat, from Suratkar.
00:34
He was a student of him.
00:37
Then I learnt Punjabi music from Pandit Kundanlal.
00:44
My last guru was Pandit Bhimsen Joshi.
00:47
I learnt from him in Pune.
00:51
This is how our journey started.
00:54
Sir, if you look at classical music,
00:57
people who come from a musical background,
00:59
they move forward in music.
01:02
Sir, do you have a musical background?
01:08
In our house?
01:10
I did not start it.
01:13
It is not necessary that you become a good artist only when you are born.
01:19
It is not like that.
01:21
You should have a good environment.
01:24
You should have a teacher, a guru.
01:28
You should have a good environment.
01:30
You should have good education.
01:34
You should do sadhana with them.
01:36
Anyone can become a guru.
01:39
It is important to have education and truthfulness.
01:43
You should have devotion towards your guru.
01:48
Only then you will take the subject seriously.
01:52
You will take their words seriously.
01:54
You will start your sadhana accordingly.
01:57
It is important for this.
01:59
Sir, what was the level of your life when you started classical music?
02:04
What was the time?
02:07
Time is done with passion.
02:11
First you should have passion in you.
02:14
You have to do it.
02:17
You have to learn this knowledge.
02:21
You have to learn it well.
02:23
You have to learn it well.
02:26
It is important for us to listen to the artist and know that he is an artist of this tradition.
02:35
This is the truth of education.
02:38
Sir, this is the 45th year of your musical career.
02:42
45th?
02:44
Yes, 45th.
02:46
Today you are going to give a presentation.
02:48
What kind of presentation will you give?
02:50
First of all, I have come here for the first time.
02:53
I have come to Gujarat for the first time.
02:55
I have come to this program for the first time.
02:59
I am feeling very good here.
03:03
I am a little sad that Manju Mehta is not here.
03:10
We thought that we would get to listen to the great artists like Ustad Zakir Hussain.
03:18
All these things have been left incomplete.
03:21
I am feeling very good that I got this opportunity in my 45th year.
03:29
I thank Haital Mehta ji and Sandeep ji from the bottom of my heart for giving me this opportunity.
03:38
Sir, what will you do in the presentation?
03:41
In the presentation, today we will present Raag Maru Bihag.
03:47
We will present two compositions.
03:50
The first composition is in one taal, Rashiya Ho Naja.
03:53
The second composition is in the third taal.
03:55
The words are Parimuri Naav Majhdhara.
03:59
All these were sung by my guru Pandit Bhimsen Joshi.
04:03
He immortalized this bandish.
04:06
This bandish was sung by him.
04:09
He has sung it with Mannadej in a film.
04:14
Basant Bhaar was made in that film.
04:16
Ketaki Gulab Johi Champak Ban Phule.
04:19
This composition is in one taal.
04:22
Ustad had asked me to present this to him.
04:26
So, I will present this to him.
04:32
Sir, what is your name?
04:34
I am Vikas Parikh.
04:36
I am the singer of Mewati Gharana.
04:40
I am a disciple of Pandit Jasraj and my father, Krishnakant Parikh.
04:46
I run Swaralaya Academy.
04:54
I have been teaching since my guru-disciple relationship.
05:00
Sir, what do you mean by guru-disciple relationship?
05:04
Guru-disciple relationship is taught in the same way in Saptak.
05:11
In earlier times, one had to go to the guru's house or gurukul and teach.
05:22
One could not go to the guru's house or perform outside the guru's house.
05:32
There were certain rules.
05:36
There was no exam method.
05:40
Guru is the final statement.
05:47
Sir, can there be a parallel to the guru-disciple relationship?
05:53
Not in music.
05:54
In music, there are examinations.
05:58
There are exams for Visharad, Alankar, MA, BA, and PhD.
06:06
But in that, my opinion is that there is only knowledge.
06:12
If you want to progress in performance,
06:16
The guru-disciple relationship is the best of the best.
06:22
Even today.
06:24
Sir, today is Saptak.
06:27
It is the 13th day of Saptak in the country.
06:30
How do you feel about it?
06:32
I am not just an Ambedkar. I am a citizen.
06:37
I feel very proud that we have been able to organise such a wonderful festival.
06:45
I tell everyone that if you go to see a 13 day festival,
06:53
You will not find it anywhere else.
06:57
I have not heard of any 13 day festival.
07:01
We are very fortunate that such great artists have participated in it.
07:10
We get the opportunity to sit face to face and listen to them.
07:15
We are very fortunate.
07:21
Sir, what is your name?
07:23
I am Ronu Majumdar.
07:26
I play the basuri. You all know that.
07:30
I have come to Saptak.
07:33
Sir, you have played Hariprasad Chaurasia on the stage of Saptak two days ago.
07:41
Will you play it today?
07:43
I am not playing it today. I have been playing it for 35 years.
07:46
The only difference is that Manju sister is not here this time.
07:49
I have been serving since 1991.
07:54
Almost every year since Nandan Bhai's time.
07:57
Earlier it used to be in Kashi Ram Hall.
07:59
Now it is here.
08:02
I have played a lot of items here.
08:05
I have also introduced many artists who had not come before.
08:12
Saptak is a great yagya where everyone offers their aahuti.
08:23
Our guruji, Bharat Ratna Pandit Ravi Shankar ji has also come to Saptak.
08:33
Ustad Ali Akbar Khan sahib, Bheeshma Pitamahs have also come here.
08:40
Ustad Zakir Hussain has also not come physically.
08:51
Ustad Zakir Bhai had played two CDs with me.
08:54
Heart to Heart and Ethereal Rhythms.
08:57
He had played these two CDs with me.
08:59
The third CD's planning was going on.
09:02
And this time my composition, with the blessings of all of you,
09:09
is called Samvedh.
09:13
The song sung together is called Samvedh.
09:16
My name has been recorded in the Guinness Book of World Records.
09:20
A week ago.
09:22
So I am sharing this news with you.
09:25
With the audience of Ahmedabad.
09:27
This is Guru Kripa.
09:30
The special thing was that I conducted and composed the largest Indian orchestra.
09:36
But the special thing was that the three raags composed by Sangeet Samrat Tansen,
09:42
I had combined them.
09:45
One is Mia Malhar, one is Mia Ki Todi and Darbari Kanada.
09:50
Darbari was composed by Tansen in Akbar's Darbar.
09:55
He had taken Darbari from Adana.
09:58
So that is why I am sharing this big news with you today.
10:09
Sir, tell us about your performance today.
10:12
We haven't seen a tabla performance like this before.
10:16
You played the tabla with your mouth.
10:19
We should do something new.
10:21
We do a lot of performances.
10:25
So we should do something new in which the audience feels it is something new.
10:29
Like you said, we have never seen anything like this.
10:31
So we were having a conversation with the tabla syllables.
10:36
Between me, Naveen and Shridhar.
10:40
We were showing our playfulness,
10:44
We were showing our playfulness,
10:46
We were showing our playfulness,
10:49
We were showing our playfulness,
10:54
and we didn't decide anything.
10:56
What you heard was happening on the spot.
10:58
What you heard was happening on the spot.
11:03
95% of classical music is improvised.
11:08
Only 5% is raga, which is fixed.
11:12
Only 5% is raga, which is fixed.
11:13
The rest is happening on the spot.
11:16
The rest is happening on the spot.
11:17
Sir, can you give us a name for your performance today?
11:24
Sir, can you give us a name for your performance today?
11:27
No, nothing like that.
11:28
We thought we should do something new.
11:30
We thought we should do something new.
11:32
These tabla syllables that we call rap,
11:35
these tabla syllables that we call rap,
11:37
have been around for thousands of years.
11:39
have been around for thousands of years.
11:41
This is a gift of Indian classical music.
11:44
This is a gift of Indian classical music.
11:46
Whatever you are playing, you are saying it.
11:48
Whatever you are playing, you are saying it.
11:50
Whatever you are playing, you are saying it.
11:52
It becomes a language for us.
11:54
We can have a conversation with each other.
11:59
I was thinking that there were three different styles of percussion.
12:06
Tabla is North Indian.
12:08
Mridangam is South Indian.
12:10
And dholak is used more in folk and films.
12:16
These three styles are coming together.
12:19
And who is tying it?
12:21
And who is tying it?
12:22
Sarangi.
12:23
Sarangi was tying us.
12:25
Sarangi was tying us.
12:27
We were having a conversation with each other.
12:30
We were discussing how we could play together.
12:32
We were discussing how we could play together.
12:34
We were discussing how we could play together.
12:36
Music is one.
12:38
Taal is one.
12:40
Whether we are from the South, North or folk,
12:42
we are all one.
12:44
We showed how we can become one.
12:48
Tell us about saptak.
12:50
You have been playing saptak for so many years.
12:52
You have been playing saptak for so many years.
12:54
Today is the saptak of this year.
12:56
It is dedicated to Saqib Hussain.
12:58
It is dedicated to Saqib Hussain.
13:00
Saptak has been playing for so many years.
13:03
For the last 45 years.
13:04
I myself have been playing for 35 years.
13:06
This is the only festival that has been running for so long.
13:11
This has been happening for long.
13:14
Running for 12-13 days is not easy.
13:19
Asaan baat nahi hai, aur yeh isme jo organizer hain, un log ka itna shrey jaata hai unko,
13:26
Nandan bhai ko jaata hai, Manju bhai unko jaata hai, ab yeh log, young log jo hain,
13:31
Sandeep hai, Hetal hai, Purvi hai, yeh log aage badha rahe hain.
13:36
To in log ko jaata hai.
13:37
To main sab tak ko, main unko, main unko, matlab kehta nahi hai ki parivaar ki tarah
13:43
hai.
13:44
Zakir bhai bhi aise hi soshte the.
13:46
Zakir bhai yahan pe itne saal se baja rahe hain, itne saal se unhone yahan pe performances
13:51
diya hai.
13:52
Sab abhi yaad karte hain unka jo performance.
13:55
To it is like a family to me and I will be coming, whether they call me or not, I will
14:00
be here.
14:01
Sir, ek aakhari sawal, sir, Shastriya Sangeet mein aage ki journey aapko kaise lag rahi
14:07
hai?
14:08
Nahi log kaise jhudayenge?
14:11
Sir, aamtoor par dekhene to abhi bhi jo log jhud rahe hain, wo kahi na kahi Sangeet
14:15
ke background se hote hain.
14:16
Toh nahi log nahi jhud rahe hain.
14:18
Dekhiye, nahi log jhud rahe the aur jhud rahe jhud rahenge mere isaap se.
14:22
Ab jaise kalakar jaise Zakir bhai the, ki jo music ke logon ko jo music bhi nahi, jaise
14:28
kisi ne mujhe posha hai ki Zakir bhai ki speciality kya hai?
14:32
Mene ka speciality yeh hai ki jab wo concert karte the, jo aage jo connoisseurs, jo jaanne
14:38
wale jo baithe hain, wo bhi enjoy kar rahe hain aur jo peechhe jo baithe hain, jinko
14:42
music ke baare mein kuch nahi pata, wo bhi enjoy kar rahe hain.
14:45
Toh yeh khasiyat thi unki aur aise wajah se itne saare log aate hain.
14:50
Aaj bhi dekhiye, kaafi log baithe hain aur program sun rahe hain aur baara din se,
14:54
tera din se aaya aaya karke baithe hain aur sun rahe hain.
14:57
Toh kalakar jo hai, wo Shrota pe depend karta hai aur Shrota jo hai, wo kalakar pe.
15:04
Toh ek doosre pe dependent hain, symbiosis jaise hota hai.
15:08
Aur yeh sab tak, yeh classical music mein dekha jaata hai.
15:12
Toh main yeh nahi keh raha hai ki abhi kitne log aakar ke mujhe mile hai, abhi itna chota
15:16
bachcha aakar ke bol rahe hai, main bhi tabla seekh rahe ho.
15:18
Toh yeh mujhe, jab inn logon ko dekhta hoon, toh I get very confidence ke bhai yeh hamara
15:23
music aur aage padhega.
15:24
Mujhe pata hai.
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