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00:00Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Hello everyone. Hello. Good evening. You're all so welcome to the show. Hey, it's Friday night and like your favorite thermal underwear, I'm back. We've got a great lineup to kick off the new year. Singing for us later. Look over there. It's Miles Smith, everyone. Yes. I know. Miles Smith. He'll be performing his hit single, Nice to Meet You.
00:30But first, who are we meeting on my sofa tonight? Well, this BAFTA-winning queen of primetime TV has just finished the triumphant 22nd series of Strictly and is now bringing us more treachery, tears and turtlenecks in the third series of the hit show, The Traitors. It's Claudia Winkleman, everybody.
00:47Oh! Hello. Hello. So nice to see you. Have a seat. Thank you.
00:56This American star of stage and screen won a Tony and a Grammy for his turn in Kinky Boots and an Emmy for his remarkable performance in the hit series Pose.
01:08Now making his Western debut in Cabaret at the Kit Kat Club, it's Billy Porter.
01:15Mind your head. There you are. Hello, darling. Hello, darling.
01:21Good to see you. Good to see you. Have a seat.
01:24This Hollywood star won an Oscar for her performance as a young mother held captive with her child in Room and went on to save the universe as the superhero Captain Marvel.
01:36Now making her Western debut in the classic revenge play Elektra, it's a first-time welcome to Brie Larson.
01:43There she is.
01:48They love you. They love you.
01:53So nice to see you. Brie Larson, everybody.
01:56And this great British actor fought in the trenches in War Horse, fought dodgy arms dealers in The Night Manager, and fought just about every single
02:05one as Marvel's god of mischief Loki. Now he's following his lifelong passion for Shakespeare and a new production of What To Do About Nothing.
02:14It's Tom Hiddleston!
02:17Oh! Thank you. Hello! So nice to see you. Hello!
02:22Hello! Happy New Year! Happy New Year!
02:24Oh! Happy New Year!
02:26Oh!
02:27Oh!
02:28Oh!
02:29Oh!
02:30Oh!
02:31Oh!
02:32Oh!
02:33Oh!
02:34I like the fake helloes.
02:36We've been together for now.
02:38We've just met! We've just met!
02:39We've just met!
02:40We've just met!
02:41Just met right now.
02:42No! I didn't do a whole movie with you!
02:44I don't know you. Happy New Year all.
02:46Happy New Year!
02:47Happy New Year!
02:48Billy Porter, it looks like panto season has continued.
02:51Well, yes it has.
02:52I'm in London and it's all about fashion, darling.
02:55It really is.
02:56I'm in my wicked phase.
02:58This is my homage to Cynthia, my darling.
03:02Why aren't you in that movie?
03:03I don't know.
03:04It makes no sense.
03:05You gotta ask John Chu, baby.
03:07I don't know. I should be.
03:09And it's a first time welcome to Brie Larson.
03:11Hello!
03:14So nice to meet you!
03:15Excited, yeah!
03:16Now, we'll be talking about your play in the West End,
03:18but is that because of rehearsals, were you here for Christmas?
03:22No, I was in Austria.
03:23Ooh, how fancy!
03:24And let me tell you, it was fantastic.
03:26Yeah!
03:27So much snow, beautiful, I got to ride horses,
03:30I was at the most incredible, beautiful hotel I've ever been at,
03:32where they don't say...
03:34They say, welcome home, when you walk in,
03:36because the whole staff lives there.
03:37Aw!
03:38Yes, yes!
03:39Weeping, weeping!
03:40Oh, oh, oh!
03:41That's annoying!
03:42No!
03:43Here's the thing!
03:44Welcome home, fuck off!
03:47I like it.
03:48Welcome home, because also I'm quite forgetful,
03:50I'm like, is this my house?
03:52Maybe I live here.
03:54Maybe.
03:55Sorry, I just snorted.
03:57What, you just farted?
03:59No, no, I snorted.
04:01Oh, sorry!
04:02I thought, I thought, Brie is very relaxed.
04:05No, if I farted, they will let you know.
04:07I won't let you know, but they can.
04:09Welcome home.
04:10Welcome home.
04:12Oh, fuck off.
04:13McCasso, McCasso.
04:15Brie snorted everyone.
04:17No, yeah, I didn't fart, right, guys?
04:18No, no, no, no, no, no.
04:20And of course, it is now January,
04:22and it's now tradition how excited we are,
04:25because the Traders is back.
04:26Woo!
04:27Yeah, I know.
04:28And by the way, because, you know, we're all watching it,
04:33you guys are rehearsing for things,
04:34so have you managed to see any of the Traders?
04:36I have.
04:37Yeah.
04:38I watched three episodes last night.
04:39Oh, there you go.
04:40I did, because I didn't know, you know, they were like,
04:43do you know Claudia?
04:44And I was like, I don't know.
04:46And then I went and watched it, and I was like, oh, yeah,
04:48I was on her last episode on the radio station before she quit.
04:52Oh.
04:53Oh, OK.
04:54I know.
04:55It was so sweet.
04:56They said, you're on with Billy.
04:57I said, well, I've interviewed him,
04:58but there's no way he'll remember me.
04:59How would I not remember those bangs, bitch?
05:01No.
05:02The bangs, girl, the bangs!
05:06That's what I want.
05:08Yeah.
05:09No, I mean, I get very nervous about the Traders.
05:11Mainly, I can't say anything, because I don't know.
05:13No, obviously.
05:14Obviously.
05:15So, thank you for having me, but I'll just not speak.
05:17But mainly, I just get nervous that people aren't watching it,
05:20and then when they do, I feel very grateful.
05:22Oh, it's so odd.
05:23I know, but it's not giving everyone to watch it.
05:25I feel bad talking to you about it, because I feel like,
05:27from the beginning of September to the end of January,
05:30all you must do is talk about Strictly and then a quick flip
05:34and talk about Traders until the end of it.
05:36I'm incredibly grateful that people are...
05:38And I feel about Traders like you would about an offspring.
05:40I'm like, do people like it?
05:42I don't watch it.
05:43They love it.
05:44We love it.
05:45So deeply.
05:46It is the most compulsive, addictive television I've ever seen.
05:50You watch, like, you know, ten minutes in, I'm like,
05:53the guys are getting off the train.
05:55Are they coming back?
05:57Why are they sacrificing themselves?
05:59Spoiler alert, sorry.
06:00But also, people seem to have really picked up on this series,
06:04but it's always happened, the fact that people can't spell
06:08at the round table.
06:09Because when they write down the names, they hold them up and they go,
06:13What?
06:14Do they not have a list?
06:17They don't have a list.
06:18And just in defence, because I love them all, it is...
06:22It's very...
06:23It's easy to play when you're watching at home.
06:25When you're there, you are totally wrapped in and you are quite tense.
06:29And I think the last thing you're worried about is spelling.
06:33Yeah.
06:34Because you're thinking, I hope I've got a traitor, or if you're a traitor,
06:36I hope they haven't got...
06:37Whatever.
06:38And you're just writing something.
06:39Just, I love them and I feel protective.
06:40So, I guess, Keith was so tense, he heard Nathan and wrote that.
06:49And yes, he was.
06:50And I love the man.
06:51That's very, very tense.
06:52Very, very tense.
06:53Let them spell however they like.
06:54Well, I have to say, I don't know if you've seen this.
06:56I don't know if you've seen this.
06:57Someone, a fan of the show, has done a bit of clever editing.
07:01So, don't think this happened.
07:03This is, somebody's faked this.
07:05But it's some of the challenges of the names on the last series.
07:08Have you seen this?
07:09It's very funny.
07:10Yeah, it's good, it's good.
07:11Here we go.
07:12Harry, who have you voted for and why?
07:14Zack, I'll vote for you.
07:19At the end of the day, it's a game.
07:21Anyone here could be lying to me, so I've sort of had to put that back.
07:25And do this for the team.
07:26So, Johnny, I have gone with you.
07:28And I really hope it is you, because otherwise it makes me feel bad.
07:32I won't take the best in the world.
07:37Jazz, who have you voted for and why?
07:40I think it's with no surprise that I'm going with Paul.
07:44I've had that good feeling in the early days.
07:47And, you know, the evidence just keeps getting bigger.
07:50It could be real.
07:51It could be real.
07:52It could be real.
07:53It's not.
07:54APPLAUSE
07:55OK, tonight we are having a Theatre Plus Tracers special.
08:00So, let's start with our first theatrical performance.
08:03It is Tom Hiddleston in Much Ado About Nothing.
08:06This starts on the 10th of February and runs till the 5th of April
08:11at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane.
08:13And what is it about Much Ado About Nothing?
08:15Because you must get, you know, offers to do things all the time.
08:17What was it about this that made you think, right, I'm going to do it?
08:20Well, I love this play.
08:21It's one of...
08:23It's a great comedy and one of Shakespeare's great comedies.
08:27And I think one of the original romantic comedies.
08:30And for those of you who don't know the play, a group of old friends come together and have a fantastic party.
08:39And in that group is Benedict who I play and Beatrice, played by the great Hayley Atwell, an old friend of mine.
08:45And he is an eternal bachelor.
08:49And she is resolutely single.
08:51And they're both sworn off love and marriage and romance forever.
08:56But they have history.
08:57And whenever they meet, there's a kind of battle of wits or a skirmish.
09:01There's a merry war between them, as one character says.
09:04And at this party, all their friends decide to get together and plot to help them realise that actually,
09:10maybe, they were in love with each other this whole time.
09:13Oh, OK.
09:14So it's sort of the OG rom-com.
09:16And it's...
09:17In fact, it's inspired modern rom-coms, doesn't it?
09:19Yes.
09:20And now, of course...
09:21So many.
09:22Yeah, I can't remember.
09:23I can't remember.
09:24Any...
09:25Any rom-com you can think of.
09:26We'll cut that bit out.
09:27But it is...
09:29Just two old men going, you know the one.
09:32Which one was the one?
09:33And then the woman.
09:35They fight and then they love each other.
09:37But it's gorgeous.
09:39It's the most beautiful play.
09:42It's so full of warmth and light and wit and it's got a big heart.
09:48And in our production, full of dancing.
09:51Yes, I hear that rehearsal is sort of 50% dance.
09:54We turn up in the morning and the first hour is dance hour.
09:58Very useful for working off the mince pies.
10:01Yeah.
10:02And it's just such a lovely thing to do in early January is dance first thing in the morning.
10:07Is it like freestyle or are people teaching you choreography?
10:09There's a little...
10:10There's a little...
10:11Everybody dance now!
10:13Well, you've...
10:14Well, maybe.
10:15You've hit on something there which is interesting.
10:18It's kind of the party...
10:19Wait, what?
10:20What did you hit on?
10:21What did he hit on?
10:22What did he hit on?
10:23Is it just improv dance?
10:24No, no.
10:25So the party, it's not like...
10:26It's not Swan Lake.
10:27Oh!
10:28But it's more the party is the sort of party that you'd recognise.
10:31It's like a wedding or a birthday party, a big celebration.
10:33So everyone's doing their...
10:34Birdie song.
10:35Right.
10:36Everyone's sort of getting up and doing their sort of signature move.
10:38Oh!
10:39And so what's interesting and fun is learning everyone else's signature move.
10:42What's your signature move?
10:44My signature move is...
10:45Come on!
10:46Yes!
10:47Yes!
10:48Yes!
10:49Yes!
10:50It's early at the party, but it's...
10:51Get the music going!
10:52We have no music.
10:53Just keep swimming.
10:54Oh!
10:55Nice!
10:56Good!
10:57I love that!
10:58Yes!
10:59Yes!
11:00Yes!
11:01I love it!
11:06Now here's the thing.
11:08Shakespeare has been part of your life for a long time.
11:11Yes.
11:12Lots of British actors do a lot of Shakespeare, but I think it's very rare for a British actor
11:16to get their big break in Shakespeare.
11:18But that is kind of what happened to you.
11:19It was in 2008 and you did an amazing run of Shakespeare.
11:22Yes.
11:23I won, yes, 2007.
11:25Oh, seven, sorry.
11:26Into eight.
11:27It was actually like a year and a half in a week.
11:28Yeah, got it.
11:29Sorry.
11:30Yeah.
11:31Ha-ha!
11:32Ha-ha-ha!
11:33Ha-ha-ha-ha!
11:34Yeah, 2007 slash eight.
11:35Slash eight.
11:36That's what it says, right?
11:37Yeah, slash eight, yeah.
11:38So I did a...
11:39He may correct you, that's what it says.
11:40Oh, dear.
11:41I do apologise.
11:42No, so I did a...
11:43It was actually the happiest time.
11:44I was about 26, 27, and I was in a touring production of Cymbeline, one of Shakespeare's late great romances, and we toured it all over the world.
12:03And then I went straight from that into Othello at the Donmar Warehouse in Covent Garden in London, which was weirdly one of the happy...
12:11For a really heavy play, was one of the...
12:13Oh, you've got the...
12:14There you go.
12:15There he is.
12:16Yeah.
12:17There you are.
12:18Aww.
12:19There's Chiwetel Ejiofor.
12:20Yeah, so Chiwetel Ejiofor, the great Chiwetel Ejiofor was playing Othello.
12:23That's Kelly Riley playing Desdemona, and Ewan McGregor was playing Iago.
12:28Wow.
12:29There's Ewan.
12:30Oh, yeah.
12:31We all look so young.
12:33But it was 2007 slash eight.
12:35It was 2007 slash eight.
12:37Um...
12:38And...
12:39That's right.
12:40It was a while ago.
12:41It was a while ago.
12:42Yeah.
12:43It was, uh...
12:442008, just five minutes ago.
12:462007, way back.
12:47Yeah.
12:4814 slash 15 years ago.
12:50Um...
12:51Yeah, it was a bit...
12:52Well done on the maths.
12:53Yeah.
12:54Just about.
12:55But we had a great time, and strangely enough, it was Michael Grandage had directed it,
13:01and he had just directed Kenneth Branagh in Richard III in Sheffield,
13:06and so he invited Ken to come and watch a dress rehearsal, and I'd never met him before.
13:12And then, of course, you know, Ken Branagh ends up directing Thor, and I end up playing Loki,
13:16and, um...
13:17And so the whole...
13:18Yeah.
13:19Being in Othello kind of changed the course of my whole life.
13:21So, that kind of launched one part of your career, but also, during that production,
13:24I think you developed kind of theatrical routines, little rituals and things.
13:28Ah, yes.
13:29Before the show.
13:30Before the show.
13:31Yes, I did.
13:32So, what are some of them?
13:33And do you still do them?
13:34All the time.
13:35So, it's a...
13:36It is a mad, insane and ridiculous game.
13:38Okay.
13:39So, it's important to say that before we start.
13:40Yeah.
13:41Because it is mad.
13:42Are we playing it?
13:43Let's do this.
13:44Well, it's called...
13:45So, the name of the game...
13:46The name of the game...
13:47Is...
13:48Big Booty.
13:49Okay.
13:50Oh, okay.
13:51Do you want to play Big Booty?
13:52Big Booty, Big Booty, Big Booty.
13:53She's got it.
13:54Big Booty number one, Big Booty number two.
13:55That's right.
13:56Okay, I'm out.
13:57Yeah.
13:58LAUGHTER
13:59Welcome home.
14:00Hold me, please.
14:01I don't live in.
14:04So, yes, it's...
14:05Basically, it's a game, it's designed to get you to sort of...
14:08You know, because you'll come in from your day, and everyone's had a different sort of day,
14:10and you get together and play this game, and you actually listen to each other
14:13and respond to each other, and, like, as all good theatre is about the connection,
14:17I think, between actors, as you guys.
14:19Absolutely.
14:20I'm not criticising Bree in any way, but that didn't explain the game in any way.
14:24LAUGHTER
14:25It's just Bree saying Big Booty a lot.
14:27Yeah.
14:28That's the fun of the game.
14:29Oh, okay.
14:30So, basically, there's a circle of people, and zero...
14:33So, person zero is the Big Booty.
14:36I mean, number off, so...
14:37Can we all play it?
14:39LAUGHTER
14:40So, I would be...
14:41If Bree were Big Booty, I would be number one.
14:43Obviously.
14:44You'd be number two.
14:45Yeah.
14:46Claudia, you'd be number three.
14:47Billy, you'd be number four.
14:48And then you have to stay...
14:49You basically call across the circle to the other person, and they call...
14:52And, basically, if you get it wrong, you go to the back.
14:54And the name of the game...
14:55The idea of the game is you get to be the Big Booty for the longest time.
14:58OK.
14:59You have to operate...
15:00You are...
15:01This is fun for him.
15:02Yeah.
15:03I still don't understand it.
15:04So, you just say Big Booty, Big Booty...
15:06And then you say...
15:07And then I'd say Big Booty...
15:08So, you...
15:09If you were the Big Booty...
15:10Well, I'm Big Booty, yeah.
15:11So, go.
15:12Oh, Big Booty number one.
15:13Number one, Big Booty.
15:14Big Booty number two.
15:15Big Booty number three.
15:16That's you, Claudia.
15:17I know that.
15:18She's like, I can't, it's a lie.
15:19She can't do it.
15:20Am I asleep?
15:21Doesn't it make you think, thank fuck we're not actors.
15:22No, no, I'm into it.
15:23OK.
15:24The key is you have to be responsive.
15:25It's like playing cats.
15:26Right, right, right.
15:27It's like playing cats.
15:28Playing cats would be easier.
15:29Yes.
15:30But being in the theatre...
15:31Sure.
15:32Because Claudia, on Strictly, because it's every Saturday, lies.
15:34Yeah.
15:35I don't want to stop the Big Booty conversation.
15:36This is the best thing to do.
15:37It's like playing cats.
15:38It's like playing cats.
15:39It's like playing cats.
15:40Playing cats would be easier.
15:41But being in the theatre...
15:42Yes.
15:43Sure.
15:44But being in the theatre...
15:45Because Claudia, on Strictly, because it's every Saturday, lies.
15:47Yeah.
15:48I don't want to stop the Big Booty conversation.
15:50This is the best thing that's ever happened to me.
15:52LAUGHTER
15:53We're all playing.
15:54We're all playing Big Booty.
15:55Well, you do.
15:56Well, now you can play Big Booty on Saturday night on Strictly.
15:58But do you have things that you have to do before you go live?
16:00Yes.
16:01I get very superstitious.
16:03I'm very happy in normal life to see a single magpie
16:06bop underneath a ladder, lick a black cat.
16:09I can't remember the black cat one.
16:10It's all fine.
16:11LAUGHTER
16:12But before going live, I need to pull somebody's head.
16:15When I say pull...
16:16That sounds...
16:17I just need to touch somebody's hair.
16:19OK.
16:20And my mic pack has to be on the right-hand side.
16:22Where did the touching hair thing come from?
16:23Wow.
16:24I must have done it once and then I wasn't fired,
16:26so I was like, let's hold on to that.
16:28Yeah.
16:29You know what I mean?
16:30Do you have to touch just one person's hair?
16:32I have to touch...
16:33But it doesn't matter whose?
16:34No!
16:35OK.
16:36I'm all right.
16:37And Bree, have you done a play before?
16:38Is this your first play?
16:39No, yeah.
16:40So this is your opportunity to develop some...
16:41I'm not taking any of their ideas.
16:43LAUGHTER
16:46I'll not be doing Big Booty.
16:47I won't be touching someone's hair.
16:48I'm not doing that.
16:49LAUGHTER
16:50But maybe I'll come back at the end of the run
16:52and I'll let you know what happens.
16:53Please do.
16:54Yeah, who knows what I'm going to do?
16:56Because you're doing some heavy stuff.
16:58Yeah, it's actually...
16:59Yeah, it's kind of...
17:00It's kind of heavy, I guess.
17:01She heavy.
17:02Yeah, I mean, if you consider, like, a story
17:04that's about, like, my dad murdered my sister
17:07and then my mom murdered my dad because of that
17:10and then now I want to murder my mom.
17:12But, like, it's fine.
17:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:14It's just crazy.
17:15I played the chorus in college.
17:17You did?
17:18I did.
17:19Oh, my gosh.
17:20Sorry, by the way, we should explain.
17:21We're talking about playing Elektra.
17:22We're talking about the play Elektra.
17:23Oh, yeah, Elektra.
17:24Oh, yeah, sorry.
17:25I'm doing Elektra on the West End.
17:27Yeah.
17:28I'm trying to find the camera.
17:29I left tech early to do this, so please come.
17:34And my monologue to get into drama school was Benedict.
17:40Really?
17:41Wow.
17:42I do much wonder how one man,
17:43seeing as how another man is a fool
17:45when he dedicates his behaviour to love,
17:47will, after he hath laughed at such shallow follies,
17:50become the argument of his own scorn by falling in love.
17:54Wow.
17:57She's trained bitch.
17:59She is.
18:00She's trained Henny.
18:02I'm no understudy, so, you know,
18:05don't miss no performances.
18:07With respect.
18:08With respect.
18:09You'll see the shadow of a hat passing the dressing room window.
18:14Elektra, we should say.
18:15Elektra, this new adaptation of Elektra,
18:17it's at the Duke of York's Theatre in London
18:19for the 24th of January,
18:21but you are kicking off this Monday in Brighton.
18:23Yes, yes.
18:24So did you come up from Brighton?
18:25I did.
18:26Oh, wow.
18:27I got it from Brighton today.
18:28Oh, wow.
18:29OK.
18:30And I'll go back tonight.
18:31So this, it's a new version of Sophocles' tragedy,
18:33a story of revenge,
18:34and it's Anne Carson has done the adaptation.
18:37Most definitely Anne Carson.
18:39And if people are, I mean, you explained it slightly there,
18:41but...
18:42Yeah.
18:43So we explained again in the story of revenge
18:44in case that got lost.
18:45Yeah, yeah.
18:46So it is a Greek tragedy, but as I said before,
18:48it is a...
18:50It is a story of revenge.
18:52And it's an opportunity for me to be on stage
18:56and hold all of you while we walk through this journey
18:59about what it means to grieve.
19:01And you're watching a woman who is being told by everyone
19:04in her life that it's time to get over what she's upset about.
19:06And she's like, no.
19:08Oh, you'll be brilliant.
19:10Yeah.
19:11Yes.
19:12Do you love...
19:13Do you love the...
19:14What I love about...
19:15Now you're in the club of people who are like,
19:17do you prefer theatre or film?
19:18But the experience of being on stage is so different
19:23from being on set because you get to live...
19:26There's a propulsive momentum in the consequences.
19:29But guess what, guys?
19:30I haven't done a show yet.
19:31Oh, sorry.
19:32Sorry.
19:33OK.
19:34That's the other fun part about being in my knowledge,
19:36y'all.
19:37Haven't done a show.
19:39I'm just living in the dream of like,
19:40I think I've got this.
19:41And then what happens is day one of previews
19:42and I'm like, uh...
19:44Oh, I'm so excited for you.
19:46This is so special.
19:47No, no.
19:48It's going to be great.
19:49I'm really excited about it.
19:50But also you're surrounded by such amazing...
19:52You're surrounded by so many amazing people.
19:54No, and it's a very unique production.
19:56I'm hesitant to say too much because I want people to come
19:59and experience it, especially, you know,
20:01as we're still working through previews and finding it.
20:03Yeah.
20:04It gives me a lot of space to really interact and be part of it.
20:08And I don't think it'll be the same show every single day,
20:11so...
20:12Never.
20:13Yeah, but I also...
20:14Yeah, I know, but...
20:15It's set.
20:16Yeah.
20:17Okay.
20:18Yeah.
20:19It's more complicated.
20:20You know what I mean?
20:21Yeah.
20:22Obviously, that's the same show every day, but I'm like,
20:23it's really not the same show every day.
20:24But...
20:25Wow, that sounds exciting.
20:26Yeah.
20:27I'm excited by that.
20:28And now, here's the thing.
20:29Uh, Tom...
20:30Yes?
20:31We do, yeah.
20:32You were at a whole movie time.
20:33We lived in many jungles in many countries together.
20:35We've actually been to so many countries together.
20:37How many?
20:38Five?
20:39More than...
20:40I've been to more countries with you than, like, my mother.
20:41That's true.
20:42And this was Kong Skull Island.
20:44Yes.
20:45Oh, there you are.
20:46Oh, my goodness.
20:47We are hiding from something.
20:48Yes.
20:49That was not there when we filmed it.
20:50Yes, exactly.
20:51Of course not.
20:52I hate to break it to you, but the guy on the right wasn't actually there.
20:56But we were imagining it.
20:57Yeah, you look very frightened.
20:58Well done.
20:59You've just reminded me, um, that shoot was extraordinary because we were in three continents.
21:05Hawaii, Australia and Vietnam.
21:07Mm-hm.
21:08Um, across 19 weeks, I think.
21:10And there's a certain point where every weekend you would disappear to win another major award.
21:16Like, every weekend we were like, where are you going?
21:18I've got to go to the SAG Awards.
21:20I've got to go to the Critics Awards.
21:21She would come back with an award for...
21:23It was the most amazing thing, culminating in an Oscar.
21:26Where?
21:27That's true, yeah.
21:28Yeah, I know.
21:30Did you bring them all back with you?
21:32No, I never did that.
21:34I didn't really know how.
21:36I think I just had a carry-on when I came back from the Oscars.
21:38I didn't know if that would make it through security, so no, I didn't even try.
21:41Uh, so here's the thing.
21:43Kind of your first big break was the Oscar-winning performance in Room.
21:47Mm-hm.
21:48I mean, that's extraordinary that that was your first thing.
21:50Yeah, no, that's a lot for a person to deal with.
21:52Can I just say, you were unbelievable.
21:54Unbelievable.
21:55Oh, amazing.
21:57And also, now thinking about it, so it's your first kind of big movie, but of course you
22:03couldn't, I guess, indulge in that because you had to look after little Jacob Tremblay,
22:07who...
22:08Happily.
22:09Yeah.
22:10I was like, oh, no, no one told me.
22:11It happened, girl.
22:12It happened.
22:13Oh, no.
22:14It's great that it's kept going for him and he's still working.
22:16Yeah, because as fantastic as going through that award season was, it's also very unsettling,
22:17because you're like, what's happening to me?
22:18You're like, what's happening to me?
22:19I've never been in any of these places before.
22:20Yeah.
22:21It's nerve-wracking.
22:22It's nerve-wracking.
22:23It's nerve-wracking.
22:24You feel like you're inside the television set.
22:25You're like, oh my God, all these people are real.
22:26I'm like, oh, no, I'm like, I'm old.
22:27I'm like, I'm old.
22:28I'm old.
22:29I'm old.
22:30I'm old.
22:31I'm old.
22:32I'm old.
22:33I'm old.
22:34I'm old.
22:35I'm old.
22:36It's great that it's kept going for him and he's still working.
22:40Yeah, because as fantastic as going through that award season was, it's also very unsettling,
22:45because you're like, what's happening to me?
22:46I've never been in any of these places before.
22:49It's nerve-wracking.
22:50You feel like you're inside the television set.
22:52You're like, oh, my God, all these people are real.
22:55But to have, like, this kid with me at all times who was like, oh, my God, R2-D2.
23:00We were at, like, some sort of, like, fancy cocktail party, like, promoting the movie,
23:05and Jacob was, like, holding my hand next to me.
23:06I was like, you good, pal?
23:07And he was like, oh, I see your legs.
23:09And I was like...
23:10And this is why you're the best.
23:13You are the best.
23:15And, Philly, now, you were performing at a very young age.
23:18But what age were you when you entered Star Search?
23:21It's a big TV talent show in America.
23:23So, Star Search is sort of the equivalent of my generation to American Idol.
23:31Yeah.
23:32Now, you know, it was the 80s.
23:35I'm 55.
23:36So, yeah, black don't crack, and I don't look like what I'm into.
23:39You look amazing.
23:41But I was 21 years old, and I had left drama school one semester early to be in the original cast of Miss Saigon.
23:52Oh, wow. Wow.
23:53And I took on Broadway, and I took my vacation and flew to Los Angeles.
24:02And on a Thursday, I did four shows, the final four shows of the season, two shows on a Friday, two shows on a Saturday, won all four.
24:10And then the following weekend, on a Saturday, I filmed the semifinals, and then the finals, and I won $100,000.
24:19Yeah.
24:20Wow!
24:21Wow!
24:22Wow!
24:23What did you do with the $100,000?
24:26Well, first of all, the government took about 34 to 36% of it.
24:32Oh, okay.
24:33And then I put the rest of it in the bank, and then I got my teeth done.
24:37You'll see.
24:38Wow!
24:39I had to put, I had to, you know, I was trying to be a movie star, honey, even then.
24:42So, I had, I had gaps in front of all my teeth, and I got my veneers.
24:47Now, I got my movie star teeth.
24:48They're beautiful.
24:49They are cool.
24:50No, this is the second version.
24:51Oh, okay.
24:52That was 1990, that's 1992.
24:54But you only would have two versions.
24:55That's pretty good.
24:56I only have to have two versions, but yeah, I have two versions.
24:58Wow.
24:59Well, you can see Billy's New Teeth in the West End, because he is...
25:05Oh, my God.
25:10Starring Billy's New Teeth.
25:12Billy Porter is the new MC in Cabaret.
25:17Hold it together, everybody.
25:19It's at the Kit Kat Club from the 28th of January to the 24th of May.
25:24And so, this is so cool.
25:26So, you're the new MC.
25:27Yes.
25:28Marisha.
25:29Wow, you look so great.
25:30Marisha Wallace, she is playing Sally Bowles.
25:33Yes.
25:34And so, how did this happen?
25:35Whose idea was this?
25:36Did you know Marisha already?
25:37Yeah, I've known Marisha from New York, the Broadway community.
25:42She's a little bit younger than me.
25:43She came in like a bat out of hell, and we all loved her.
25:47You know, I have a really interesting relationship with the show.
25:52You know, back in 98, 99, the last revival that Sam Mendes directed with Alan Cumming...
26:00Oh, yeah.
26:01...ran on Broadway for about seven years.
26:04And all of my white colleagues were doing this role.
26:11Mm.
26:12So, I asked to audition, and it was a swift and unequivocal no.
26:16Mm.
26:17And the reason was, they said to me, that's not the story we're telling.
26:24And I thought to myself, so, if any of you know what Cabaret is, it's about Nazi Germany, essentially.
26:31And I thought, you're not telling a story of racism and oppression?
26:37And so, as the activist I am, I went in search of some historical stuff, and I found a book called Destined to Witness Growing Up Black in Nazi Germany.
26:50And I sent it to everybody in the creative team.
26:53Signed, we were there.
26:55We are always there.
26:57Wow.
26:58Of course, I don't hear anything.
27:00This is 1998, right?
27:01Yeah.
27:02And my mom, who was a very religious woman, we just lost her this past year.
27:06I'm sorry.
27:08She would always say, God's delay is not denial.
27:11Mm.
27:12So, fast forward to last year.
27:15Wow.
27:16Marisha Wallace, who comes over here from the States, who is the belle of the ball, right?
27:21She's now a British citizen.
27:23She's a two-time Olivier-nominated actress, one for Daniel Fish's Oklahoma.
27:28Woo-hoo.
27:29As Ado Annie, her director, and one for that most recent immersive Guys and Dolls.
27:35Oh, wow.
27:36She said, she calls me, she's like, I was walking down the street, and I saw an ad for Cabaret, and I was like, I want to play Sally Bowles.
27:44Why can't I play Sally Bowles?
27:46Were we there?
27:47Wow.
27:48Were we there?
27:49And she went and she did the research, and she put a packet together, and she sent it to the creative team.
27:59And she got, unlike America, she did get the audition.
28:02Wow.
28:03She slayed, as she always does, and they said, well, okay, oh, yes, we're embarrassed, A, B, absolutely, C, who, what MC are we going to get to match you?
28:20And she was like, um, my friend Billy Porter.
28:23Wow.
28:24And they were like, would he do it?
28:29I'm like, um, yeah, I'm just sitting at home during a strike.
28:32Yeah, I need a gig.
28:34Um, and that's sort of how it happened.
28:37Wow.
28:38It's the first time in the 60-year history of this musical that, not two, but also Cliff, three black people are in the lead roles in this musical in a commercial production.
28:52It's changing the history of the world.
28:57It matters.
28:58Yes.
28:59It matters.
29:01And Billy, you started the hostels, but apparently, was it really an injury?
29:06What happened?
29:07Listen, y'all.
29:08Two months, I've been in Pilates, preparing for this moment, getting my core together.
29:17Right?
29:18Yeah.
29:19Of course.
29:20Me too.
29:21I have, like, two days of rehearsal prior to Christmas.
29:24Monday, first official day, I walk into rehearsal, I'm ready.
29:29I sit in a chair, I lean over to put on my shoes, and...
29:34No!
29:35I've fallen and I can't get up!
29:37And how are you now?
29:39That's what happens when you're 55, darling.
29:40I said to my doctor, I'm like, what in the Sam Hill is going on?
29:51He was like, you're really nice.
29:52You know, I don't feel like that.
29:54But if that's what happens, you know.
29:57Well, Claudia, I think, feels your pain because didn't you injure yourself?
30:00I'm...
30:01I'm 52, about to be 53, and I, unlike you, I feel 75.
30:05LAUGHTER
30:06But I like it.
30:07That's where I'm meant to be.
30:09I've got a heavy dog duvet with a crossword.
30:12Erm...
30:13That's not code.
30:14I...
30:15I like puzzles.
30:16So...
30:17I always do my back in, because I've never exercised.
30:19I don't have any kind of corma.
30:21I can't lift a pence.
30:23Erm, one of those grapes, I'd be like, bring it to me.
30:26I'm like, weak, frail, live on hula hoops.
30:29I'm in the Highlands, filming for Traitors, and there's quite a lot of standing around.
30:35I'm not complaining, but I'm standing...
30:37It's uneven floor.
30:39You know what I mean?
30:40If you're 52, you get...
30:41And I'm wearing a Wellington.
30:42My back went.
30:43And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
30:45And I begged Gemma, who's lovely, head of production, she's in charge.
30:48I was like, Gemma, I beg of you, could you get...
30:50If anywhere I could get a physio, because I see a physio in London.
30:53We're in the middle of nowhere.
30:54Like, we're an hour from...
30:55You can't change the flavour of gum you're having.
30:58You know what I mean?
30:59You commit at the beginning.
31:01I was like, is there any way?
31:02No, it's juicy fruit.
31:03That's what you mentioned.
31:04Not many different kinds of...
31:06And he said...
31:07So, Gemma said, she was like, look, we have found you a physio.
31:10Don't do your, like, chatty thing.
31:12Like, could you not ask too many questions?
31:14I was like...
31:15I mean, I am annoying, right?
31:16So, I was like...
31:17Normally, like...
31:18I was like, OK, so the next day, a man arrives and starts working on my back.
31:24He's sort of like, come on, tackle out.
31:25I don't think he uses those words, but he was like...
31:27No problem.
31:28No problem.
31:29And I was...
31:30And starts working on my back and I was like, I know I can't be too chassy
31:34because he hasn't seen the trailer.
31:36Like, maybe he just doesn't...
31:37Yeah.
31:38But after eight minutes, I'm like, oh, thank you so much.
31:41Like, do you live nearby or whatever?
31:43And he said, look, they told me not to tell you.
31:45And I said, they told you not to tell me?
31:47What?
31:48And he said, you're the first human I've touched in 18 months.
31:51LAUGHTER
31:52So, I went...
31:57One more time, please.
31:59One more time.
32:00And he said, I'm a vet and I'm an animal physio.
32:05LAUGHTER
32:06And I said...
32:07OK.
32:08He was also, by the way...
32:09Excellent.
32:10And I said, what have you...
32:11Like, so just...
32:12You know, I've never met an animal.
32:13I said, what have you done today?
32:14And he went, two shy horses.
32:15Miniature Dachshund.
32:16And then he said, but a skeleton is a skeleton.
32:19He went, oh, should we continue?
32:20I went, on you go.
32:21He was majestic.
32:22He came again because I was obsessed by his stories.
32:25I said, what have you done today?
32:26And he went, a reluctant boxer.
32:27LAUGHTER
32:28And he sort of, I've got L4, L5, my neck.
32:29Like, I'm just crumpled and...
32:30I'm 52.
32:31Like, that's it.
32:32And I don't move.
32:33I booked Pilates tomorrow.
32:34What's going to happen?
32:35So...
32:36Ooh.
32:37Ooh.
32:38Oh, yeah.
32:39Oh, yeah.
32:40Oh, yeah.
32:41Oh, yeah.
32:42Oh, yeah.
32:43Oh, yeah.
32:44Oh, yeah.
32:45Oh, yeah.
32:46Oh, yeah.
32:47Oh, yeah.
32:48Oh, yeah.
32:49Oh, yeah.
32:50Oh, yeah.
32:51Oh, yeah.
32:52Oh, yeah.
32:53Oh, yeah.
32:54Oh, yeah.
32:55Oh, yeah.
32:56What's going to happen?
32:57Child, you better get...
32:58I know.
32:59Well, I think I need to...
33:00The core, darling.
33:01The core.
33:02The core.
33:03I mean, I healed so quickly because my actual core was in shape.
33:06This was two days ago.
33:07So I'm sitting here.
33:08Oh, look at you.
33:09I'm in my pump.
33:10I'm good.
33:11Yeah.
33:12Good.
33:13Back on form.
33:14I'm back.
33:15Also back on television is the third series of The Traitors.
33:17It started on the 1st of January.
33:19It's now on iPlayer and BBC One.
33:22Let's just have a quick reminder, before we talk about it,
33:25of some of the action earlier this week.
33:28Yay!
33:30My sole focus was on Fozia.
33:33She took her ultimate sacrifice, and I proper respect that.
33:36Thank you, Jake.
33:37Oh, yes, Mina, thank you.
33:39And Alex, thank you.
33:40Yay!
33:41Is that nice?
33:42Fozia is down.
33:43She is now a player in the game.
33:45Thank you so much.
33:46Honestly, wow.
33:47I didn't expect it.
33:48Congratulations, Fozia.
33:50Are you happy?
33:51I am, yeah.
33:52I am, yeah.
33:53Fozia.
33:54So, Fozia's back in the game.
33:55Yeah.
33:56And because it's the third season, do they play it differently now?
34:11Because those people getting off the train, they must have been thinking,
34:13I'll be back in a minute.
34:14Yeah.
34:15See you soon.
34:16Um, they...
34:18The thing is, the producers, I'm not just saying this because they're here.
34:22Hello.
34:23No.
34:24They are so clever.
34:25Once you think you know how to play, there will be twists and there will be turns.
34:30And there are twists and turns.
34:32I'm so scared to speak.
34:33We might need to talk about the weather in a minute.
34:35Yeah.
34:36They're really coming.
34:37OK.
34:38Because already there's been some great stuff.
34:39Like, Armani, I mean, there's a person who thought she knew how to play the game.
34:44Leslie.
34:45I love her so much.
34:46She was woeful.
34:47No, no, don't say that.
34:48Don't say that.
34:49I really love her because...
34:51She was extremely confident.
34:53She was confident but also, you know how it is, like, on first dates, right?
34:58Yeah.
34:59Sometimes you can talk too much.
35:00Yes, yes, yes.
35:01You meet people at a party or at a dinner, you're like...
35:03And then another thing and, oh, my God, I'm a Capricorn.
35:0534B, thanks for asking.
35:07LAUGHTER
35:08You can...
35:11You can talk too much but I love her.
35:14I love them all.
35:15I do.
35:16My favourite bit, I think of all three series, was Linda when you went...
35:21Traitorous.
35:22She went, mm-hmm.
35:23LAUGHTER
35:25I love Linda.
35:26How is she still in?
35:28LAUGHTER
35:29Armani's safer, I think.
35:30Yes.
35:31Yes.
35:32Is it when Jake was coming for Linda?
35:33I love the fact that you actually were.
35:35Yeah, yeah.
35:36So Jake was like, I saw you make that head turn and then the next person to speak was Armani
35:41going, well, look, it could be Linda but there are other old people in this house as well.
35:46LAUGHTER
35:47And she redirected it over to the priest lady.
35:50Lisa.
35:51Lisa.
35:52Yeah.
35:53Fine.
35:54So that is Traitorous.
35:55It continues on BBC One Wednesdays to Friday and on iPlayer.
36:01But very quickly, I haven't realised, Claudia does have another little job coming up because
36:05at the end of this series I'm popping off to do a tour of Australia but my seat is going
36:09to be filled for one week only by none other than Claudia Winkleman.
36:13Oh, I'm sorry.
36:14I know.
36:16I apologise.
36:17No, no.
36:18There's a man there and he looked like he felt sick that he wasn't here that week.
36:23No.
36:24He was like, why wasn't he here that week?
36:26I won't make a mess and I apologise in advance.
36:28No, no, I'm so glad you're doing it.
36:29So Claudia will be here, I think it's on the 28th February.
36:33Thank you so much for doing it.
36:34No, thanks for having me.
36:35Very kind.
36:36Right, it's time for music.
36:37This singer had a great 2024, being named the BBC Introducing Artist of the Year and
36:43has already been announced as the Brit Rising Star of 2025.
36:47Here performing his current single, Nice to Meet You, it is Miles Smith.
36:52Good job.
36:53Hey Miles, nice to meet you.
36:54Lovely to meet you.
36:55That is such an earworm, Miles.
36:56Fantastic.
36:57Thank you very much.
36:58Excellent.
36:59Listen, that single is from the EP, A Minute.
37:02There it is.
37:03A thing of beauty.
37:04Yeah.
37:05And it is out now.
37:06Very good.
37:07And if people get that, they also, they get Stargazing, which was a huge, huge hit.
37:12Like, that would became, it was the biggest British single of the year, wasn't it?
37:16Yeah.
37:17Wow.
37:18Yeah.
37:19Yeah.
37:21But it kind of had a kind of a modern journey to that, so it wasn't radio play,
37:28it was sort of social media and, was it TikTok?
37:31I don't know.
37:32Yeah.
37:33It started off on social media.
37:34I mean, it's sort of like the thing now, isn't it?
37:36But it's an amazing journey online and hundreds of thousands of people, like, pre-saving the
37:40song and I think that just gave traditional media like radio and TV just a little wave
37:45to say, hi, the little guys arrived.
37:47Yeah.
37:48Do you remember, like, hearing it on the radio must be different.
37:51Yeah.
37:52Yeah.
37:53It's so weird.
37:54I mean, this idea that starts off sort of at home in like your bedroom or just with
37:57some friends in an apartment and then hearing yourself on the radio.
38:00I mean, I can recall the first time I heard it on the radio.
38:03It was, oh, it's so bad.
38:05I was, er, I'm not used to this, by the way.
38:08I'm nervous.
38:09No one is.
38:10I'm nervous as hell.
38:11No one is.
38:12It's weird.
38:13Like, movie screen, miles, not okay.
38:15No, for me, I was out in New York and I jumped in a taxi and I just heard my song
38:20playing.
38:21I was like, what?
38:22Wow.
38:23So, er, yeah, I shazammed it and I was like, look, it's me.
38:26It was like...
38:27I love that.
38:29He was like, I don't care.
38:32I mean, every call now must be just good news.
38:40Because I mentioned the awards, you've just got those two huge big awards.
38:44Uh-huh.
38:45You're going on a tour.
38:46Is it a world tour?
38:47Yeah, yeah.
38:48It's my first proper, like, world tour and I'm sort of going all over the gaff.
38:52I'm going UK, EU, going out to North America, doing Australia, New Zealand.
38:56Wow.
38:57It's just really exciting to know that my music sort of travelled that far.
39:00But also, what's the thing, you're going on tour with Ed Sheeran as well?
39:04Yes, I am.
39:05I am.
39:06You're his main supporter.
39:07I am.
39:08Amazing.
39:09It's insane to think about.
39:10I used to listen and watch Ed growing up and now to be on tour with the great Ginger is incredible.
39:15LAUGHTER
39:16And also, like, playing...
39:18You'll be playing those huge arenas and stadiums.
39:20Yeah, I know.
39:21It's weird.
39:22Like, I always say to my friends, like, at the start of this year I was playing an 80-cap pub in Manchester
39:27and I finished it playing arenas and so doing stadiums next year is a bit silly, innit?
39:33Aw.
39:34Can I ask you this?
39:35Do they sing your song back to you?
39:37They do.
39:38What does that feel like?
39:39I always wonder what that must feel like.
39:40I'm sure you guys went through it, but, like, my imposter syndrome is raging.
39:44No-one's ever sung a song back to me.
39:46LAUGHTER
39:47But imposter syndrome is raging at the moment.
39:49So, it's like, they'll be singing my songs back and I'll be like, oh, like, me?
39:53And I'll be looking behind just like, are you sure it's me?
39:56But, yeah, I mean, the whole experience of being known's weird, innit?
39:59Like, the other day, I got off TFL.
40:02I do love the TFL.
40:03So do I.
40:04And two guys in balaclavas came up to us and I was like, oh, I'm getting robbed.
40:09And they was like, we love your music.
40:11I was like...
40:12LAUGHTER
40:14Life has changed.
40:16LAUGHTER
40:18What is the TFL?
40:19That's you.
40:20Transport for London.
40:21Transport for London.
40:22Transport for London, OK.
40:23There you go.
40:24Can I just say how much I love...
40:25I lost...
40:26I know this is...
40:27This won't...
40:28I just want to say it out loud.
40:29I left a bag on the tube full of Christmas presents.
40:32They found it, got it back to me.
40:34I emailed lost...
40:35APPLAUSE
40:36Wow.
40:37I just had the TFL.
40:38We're all thinking the same thing.
40:39How rubbish were those gifts?
40:41LAUGHTER
40:42They were personalised.
40:45I was really happy they got...
40:47I know what you mean.
40:49Very nice.
40:50Miles Smith, we just wish you all the best for 2025.
40:55It sounds like you don't need it.
40:56Thanks again for that great performance and good luck with the EP and the touring.
41:00Miles Smith, everybody.
41:02Fantastic.
41:03APPLAUSE
41:04Yeah!
41:05Yeah!
41:06And that is nearly it before we go.
41:09Just time for the very first visit of 2025 to the big red chair.
41:13Who is there?
41:14Hello, sparkly man.
41:15Hello.
41:16Hi.
41:17What's your name?
41:18I'm Big Booty One.
41:19LAUGHTER
41:20No, I'm John.
41:21I'm John.
41:22I'm John.
41:23I'm...
41:24I'm tempted to flip you immediately.
41:26No, I won't.
41:27What's your name?
41:28John.
41:29John.
41:30OK, lovely, John.
41:31And where are you from, John?
41:32If you like my history, I'm from Colombia.
41:34Yes.
41:35If you don't like it, I'm British.
41:36OK.
41:37That's an aggressive power.
41:38OK.
41:39John, off you go with the story.
41:40Yeah, so it was summer and we were with my ex-partner to a orangutan retreat in Sumatra, Indonesia.
41:50Oh, yes.
41:51And...
41:52Continue.
41:53It's only January.
41:54And we were just gay, tight, tip-tumped shirts, chair exposed flesh, tight shirt trousers.
42:06What could be wrong, right?
42:07Yes.
42:08They look at us and say, oh, you will be in trouble.
42:11And we started the tour and suddenly a orangutan baby came down from the tree.
42:18What?
42:19And he approached to us very cobbly and suddenly Mama orangutan came down, roaring, very angry,
42:29and he tried to attack us.
42:31She was protecting the baby.
42:33Yes, I understand, John.
42:34Yes.
42:35So the two guys say, like in a RuPaul voice, run for your life.
42:42LAUGHTER
42:43That's quite a good story.
42:45So...
42:46Oh, that's not the end of it.
42:47All right.
42:48So the two run, like, Olympic record.
42:50Yes.
42:51I got lost in the jungle, out of breath.
42:53Like, I run the entire jungle.
42:55Yes, yes.
42:56And I found a rug and I sit down for a minute and say, I need to take a raise again.
43:00Of course, John.
43:01Yes.
43:02And suddenly Mama orangutan appears with the baby on top.
43:07What?
43:08They approached me and she handed me over the baby.
43:12What?
43:13And she kissed me on the cheek.
43:15What?
43:16She was looking for love.
43:18Oh!
43:19She was...
43:20She was...
43:21She was looking for a daddy.
43:23For the baby.
43:25Yeah, I...
43:26It was so good.
43:28It was so good.
43:29And then...
43:30I feel there was some hallucinating at the end.
43:33The punchline didn't really...
43:34Yeah, I felt like something...
43:36And it was the outfit which made the mother attack, but then the mother go,
43:42Oh, he's wearing...
43:43He's showing flesh.
43:44I will give you my baby.
43:45Yes, yes.
43:46Were they linked?
43:47I got the tight white...
43:48What was on top?
43:49A Tim Tam?
43:50A Tim Tam.
43:51Which are biscuits from Australia.
43:52What are the Tim Tam?
43:53Biscuits from Australia, that's all I know.
43:54I'm so sorry.
43:55I'm just going to back up a little bit.
43:56What are we doing right now?
43:57My first time on the show, no one explained what that just was.
44:10I'm so down to keep dissecting it, but like...
44:13OK.
44:14What is the criteria that I'm working with?
44:16High five, one more great deal.
44:17It's people out the back, and they want to tell their favourite story,
44:21and if it's a really good story, they get to walk,
44:23and if we cool on the idea of their story, they get flipped.
44:26See?
44:27And is the idea...
44:28They get to walk where?
44:29Is it a...
44:30I don't remember.
44:31Away.
44:32Away.
44:33Away.
44:34Away.
44:35Is the story supposed to be true?
44:36Is that true?
44:37That's supposed to be a true story.
44:38That's supposed to be true.
44:39Yeah, but...
44:40I mean, I think it stopped being true about halfway through.
44:41It's John's truth.
44:42It's John's truth.
44:43No, yeah, exactly.
44:44I feel like you'll be good at this because she knows about traitors.
44:47Why was he dressed as an orangutan?
44:49No, no, he wasn't dressed as an orangutan.
44:50No, no, he wasn't dressed as an orangutan.
44:51No, no, no.
44:52He wasn't dressed as an orangutan.
44:53No, no, no.
44:54I'm so...
44:55No, no, no.
44:56That is really all we've got time for.
44:58So, if you'd like to have a go with that red show yourself and tell your story,
45:02you can contact us via our website at this very address.
45:05Please say a huge thank you to all of our guests tonight.
45:08Miles Smith!
45:09Claudia Winkleman!
45:12Billy Porter!
45:15Brie Larson!
45:17And Tom Hiddleston!
45:21Do join me next week with music from Grif.
45:24Bridgerton star Jonathan Bailey, Oscar winner Michelle Yeoh,
45:27and back in action together Cameron Diaz and Jamie Foxx.
45:31I'll see you then.
45:32Good night, everyone.
45:33Bye-bye!