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Gilbert Arenas blasts Pat Riley for costing the Miami Heat star players
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1/8/2025
Gilbert Arenas blasts Pat Riley for costing the Heat star players causing they guys to enter a quibble concerning his criticism.
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00:00
Can I tell you somebody who's not my guy?
00:01
Who?
00:02
Gilbert Arenas.
00:03
Ugh.
00:03
Gilbert Arenas?
00:05
He has a podcast, because everybody does these days.
00:07
Yeah.
00:08
And he was very mad at Pat Riley.
00:11
Over the Jimbo thing.
00:13
He can't be mad at nobody.
00:15
Some of his shenanigans.
00:16
He's mad at Pat Riley.
00:18
Here's Gilbert Arenas.
00:20
He moved to the Knicks.
00:21
He ain't doing nothing.
00:23
He moved to Miami.
00:24
He got shot.
00:26
I mean, he got Dwayne Wade.
00:27
He came and got Shaquille O'Neal.
00:30
Then they brung a whole bunch of other players to help win.
00:34
You can't pretend you that got them.
00:37
You're not bigger than them.
00:38
You're pretending you are.
00:40
They left.
00:41
LeBron came.
00:43
They won a championship.
00:45
You can't pretend you're bigger than LeBron.
00:47
LeBron leave.
00:48
This is crap.
00:49
Jimmy Butler comes.
00:51
He gets you to the championship.
00:52
If he tells you, bring me one more star, mother
00:55
Bring him one more star.
00:57
Because if he can get you to the championship with this,
01:00
bring me one more star.
01:01
I got you.
01:02
So for you to pretend that you are the heat culture
01:06
and you can do this, you're lying.
01:09
Because when he leaves, nobody's coming there.
01:12
I got this.
01:13
Nobody's coming to.
01:14
You got South Beach in your favor.
01:16
Yes.
01:17
And you treat South Beach like it's a prison.
01:26
Valid points.
01:26
I don't like that.
01:27
No valid points.
01:28
Valid points.
01:30
Here's the deal.
01:34
And we all have said this.
01:38
You've made this heat organization about heat culture
01:42
and not about the heat players for years, OK?
01:49
Heat culture may set the tone, but heat players win games.
01:53
Oh, yeah?
01:53
Yeah.
01:54
Agent Zero's record, his career against heat culture was?
01:57
See, here we go.
01:58
Here we go.
01:59
Yeah, 3 and 18.
02:00
Wait.
02:02
Can both things be true?
02:03
Nah, it's just like.
02:04
Can Gilbert Arenas not be very good against the heat?
02:07
And what Gilbert Arenas said has some valid points.
02:09
You think the heat are never going to get anybody again?
02:11
No.
02:12
I don't believe that.
02:13
Well, that's what he just said.
02:13
OK.
02:14
No one's coming here.
02:15
All right.
02:20
There is a standard that is set here.
02:23
I agree.
02:25
I agree with how everybody does it, OK?
02:28
I just think some people got it.
02:30
But here's what I also believe.
02:33
The heat have been great when their star players
02:38
have been more selfish, right?
02:43
Remember when the big three were here.
02:46
When did it turn around?
02:47
When LeBron stopped being a chicken against JJ Varela.
02:50
When D-Way went to LeBron and said, do your thing.
02:53
Because why?
02:54
Oh, my god.
02:56
Because why?
02:57
See how he.
02:57
See why we have problems.
02:58
Because why?
02:59
Marcos, see how we have problems?
03:00
Why don't you acknowledge the.
03:02
Because they didn't win.
03:03
And why didn't they win?
03:08
Why didn't they win?
03:10
Because Dwayne Wade didn't give LeBron the right role?
03:14
Or because LeBron James saw.
03:15
Ah, don't film.
03:21
He shrunk.
03:22
It's OK.
03:23
Like, you're lashing out.
03:25
I'm not lashing out.
03:26
I'm telling you what I'm.
03:28
No, no, no.
03:29
Here's a little thing I'd like to do.
03:31
I'd like to do a little thing called, let's say what happened.
03:33
OK.
03:34
That's what happened.
03:35
OK.
03:36
And then the conversation happened after that.
03:39
Yeah, that's the conversation that happened.
03:42
That's what happened.
03:45
So silly.
03:46
Like, we sit here, and we placate,
03:48
and we have to change things.
03:50
They should have won the championship.
03:52
They should have won the championship.
03:54
Nobody's placating.
03:55
OK.
04:02
Again.
04:04
By the way, Jimmy Butler seemed to, you know, first of all,
04:06
the idea that Jimmy Butler has it run like a prison,
04:09
you mean the guy who stays at five star
04:11
Airbnbs on every road trip?
04:15
Yeah, so every road trip.
04:17
He goes to tennis, does whatever he wants.
04:20
It's run like a prison?
04:22
No, dude.
04:22
No, no, no.
04:23
He didn't get his extension.
04:24
But this is the thing.
04:25
Like, I'm fine.
04:26
I can understand.
04:28
I told you.
04:29
No, I know you're not.
04:29
I'm talking about Agent Zero here, who, you know,
04:35
he spent his career getting his tail kicked by the Miami Heat.
04:40
OK, but he wants to act like he knows what it's like.
04:42
What does that have to do with what he said?
04:44
Because he's sitting here and being like,
04:45
oh, no one's going to come there because it's run like a prison.
04:48
Jimmy Butler's not mad because of that.
04:49
Jimmy Butler's mad because he's not getting his money.
04:51
No, again, the Heat have done what they need to do.
04:56
And the culture part of it is, I love it.
05:03
I love that everybody comes here and plays with a certain way.
05:07
There's a certain level of intensity that you're required.
05:11
I love that part of it.
05:13
Again, culture doesn't win games.
05:15
Players do.
05:17
So I'm also saying that, yeah, he made some valid points about Jimmy.
05:23
But Jimmy did this to himself, OK, by missing so many games.
05:29
And then it got, and then look, here's what happens.
05:33
And this is the honest truth.
05:35
The organization, who has given you everything that you've asked for,
05:40
let you have re-reign.
05:44
You've given him 60 games and they're like, we need more games.
05:48
Like a lot of these situations we end up with in the postseason,
05:51
we wouldn't be in if you played more games.
05:52
Sorry, Pat Riley, I believed in Lamar Odom and paying you,
05:55
and paying him and not you.
05:56
Sorry.
05:57
Oh, so you sided with Jimmy Butler?
05:59
I have sided with Jimmy Butler.
06:00
I'm the one who said to pay him the entire time.
06:02
No, he shouldn't be paid.
06:04
OK, that's fine.
06:04
You are paid with a promise of what you're going to do.
06:08
I haven't said that there aren't points on both of these arguments.
06:11
I haven't said that.
06:13
But the idea that people say things like,
06:15
oh, the Heat run it like a prison.
06:17
Who said that? One guy.
06:18
He literally, that's who I'm at.
06:20
One, who cares?
06:22
I'm not even talking, I haven't even talked about that point.
06:24
You're freaking out one point to make his whole argument not valid.
06:29
Oh, dude.
06:30
OK, but you're sitting here and being like,
06:32
oh, it took a talk from Dwayne Wade.
06:34
No, I'm just.
06:36
No, no, no, LeBron James, he shriveled.
06:38
OK, him and Dwayne Wade ran roughshod
06:41
through a tougher East that year.
06:43
They lost to the Shawn Stevenson.
06:46
All right.
06:48
Like you stick on a couple of points, I'm like, OK, facts, whatever points,
06:54
facts, whatever you want to call them.
06:56
OK, the overall thing that I took from Gilbert, not even like, yeah,
07:03
there's certain organizations that run a certain way
07:07
and demand a certain style of play from their play.
07:11
There is nothing wrong with that.
07:13
Nothing wrong.
07:14
Danny Jimmy should have been used to it because he played for tips.
07:16
Maybe we should play Russian roulette.
07:18
OK, like they're doing.
07:18
But.
07:20
You don't think it would be playing Russian roulette,
07:22
given Jimmy and they literally were playing Russian roulette
07:24
in the wizard's locker room.
07:26
I know, but you don't think that that Pat would be playing Russian roulette
07:30
if he would have gave Jimmy an extension?
07:32
Oh, see that.
07:33
But that's it.
07:34
Can you pay 60 million?
07:35
I don't know.
07:36
But then he's a dummy for that.
07:37
He can't win.
07:38
You know what I mean?
07:39
Like Pat can't win.
07:40
You're either it's more like you're either you're either an ingrate
07:43
because you didn't pay Jimmy Butler or you're a dummy because you paid
07:45
Jimmy Butler here.
07:46
There's not it's not a win situation.
07:48
Let me let me ask you a question.
07:51
What is more likely to happen?
07:54
Jimmy Butler plays more games
07:57
or Jimmy Butler plays the same amount of games he's played in my games.
08:00
So if Pat Riley wanted him to play more and it was never going to happen
08:05
and he said, I'm not.
08:07
Isn't that the responsibility of his organization, though?
08:09
Like, what is that?
08:09
What Pat owes to the organization to make sure they don't make bad decisions?
08:13
Right.
08:13
So if he felt it was a bad decision because this is all the games.
08:17
What if the best that I could do with the amount of games
08:19
Jimmy was going to play was playing?
08:21
Is that good enough for you?
08:24
If he can beat the if he could beat the one.
08:25
No, you're making it.
08:27
How does that happen, Tobin?
08:29
Well, it just happened.
08:30
No.
08:32
He did it one time out of how many times
08:34
ever in the history of the NBA?
08:37
Twice, three times, seven, six times, six times.
08:40
And how long has the NBA been around?
08:42
One. Right.
08:44
Do you understand?
08:45
Like, you can't live like that.
08:47
I just wish you'd stop deflecting on the 2011 finals and just admit that
08:53
you're deflecting.
08:54
I'm not deflecting on it.
08:55
JJ Barea wouldn't go all that.
08:57
See, here's what you do when we get into an argument and I'm making sense.
09:03
You go to the one or two points that you can just keep.
09:07
OK, here you want to know what?
09:10
Here's my problem.
09:11
Here's what I'm going to say.
09:12
I don't know.
09:12
Can I tell you what my problem is?
09:13
Can I tell you what my problem is?
09:14
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
09:15
Let me.
09:15
Hold on.
09:16
Let me hear you say it.
09:17
Hold on a second.
09:17
Hold on.
09:18
Let me.
09:18
Let me tell you my problem.
09:19
Let me just.
09:20
LeBron should have dominated JJ Barea.
09:23
Let's move on from there.
09:25
Great.
09:25
Can I say a point?
09:26
Sure.
09:29
Pat Riley is not without fault here.
09:31
OK, I understand.
09:32
I understand.
09:33
OK, as you can put job on the organization.
09:36
OK, did Pat Riley whiff and go a little too much balls on the table
09:40
with the Damian Lillard situation?
09:42
Yes.
09:43
Yes.
09:43
So did you, though?
09:44
You really want to really want to know if nothing's here.
09:50
Yours were right next to it.
09:51
Can we just have on Cronan?
09:53
You got no move there.
09:54
Wait, stop.
09:55
It's fair.
09:56
It's fair.
09:57
I'll acknowledge I overplayed my hand.
09:59
OK, he got my tell.
10:02
Joe Cronan has to be Howlin right now, even though he's still stuck
10:05
with Scoot Henderson, but I just want to make nobody's been in school.
10:09
Nobody's been in school, but let me just make one point.
10:11
Can I just make one point?
10:14
Twenty twenty five.
10:16
What can we get back to?
10:17
Yeah, I just make a point again, but I'll allow people to take their
10:23
shots at Pat Riley, however, and however.
10:27
Gilbert Arenas and Paul Pierce being more unreasonably upset at Pat Riley
10:33
over this past week than Shaquille O'Neal was is a little weird.
10:39
Does nobody find that a little strange?
10:41
Shaq was literally here on television the other day saying like, listen,
10:45
nobody knows about angry and Pat Riley.
10:46
When you anger Pat Riley, that's it.
10:48
I don't want to tell you, but these guys are sitting here being like, oh,
10:52
no, it's never going to come there.
10:53
Oh, no, it's never going to come there, except after Shaq, they got LeBron
10:59
and after LeBron, they got Jimmy Butler and after Jimmy Butler,
11:01
they'll get somebody else.
11:02
So stop Gil and your arena here, here and your agent number here.
11:08
Why are you giving him that much credit for knowing what's going on?
11:14
That's the point, though.
11:15
He likes to act like he knows what's going on and he doesn't.
11:18
I so why are you so like, no matter what point I give you,
11:23
all valid points, you know what you go to?
11:26
You're going to read this.
11:27
It's you just don't like the idea that Gilbert Arenas,
11:31
Boogie Cousins and Paul Pierce are all sitting here acting like
11:36
they know about winning or they know about Pat Riley or any of that stuff.
11:41
Paul, why are you the fact that you've given them that much of a voice?
11:46
Shame on you.
11:47
No, not shame on me.
11:48
I'm going to call out the fraudulence.
11:53
All right.
11:53
Can I make my point now?
11:55
No, we're out of time.
11:55
Oh, yes.
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