" No Progress, We're Still Where We Were on December 23." Irfan Siddiqui

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00:00Senator sahib, you have met Maulana Fazlur Rehman sahib

00:05and you are telling me that Maulana sahib has been asked to take confidence in this matter.

00:13Senator sahib, what was the conversation?

00:15What was Maulana sahib's reaction?

00:17Considering that he had to struggle a lot to get his bill passed after the 26th amendment,

00:23was there any discontent or lack of confidence in this matter?

00:27No, apart from political relations, I have a very good personal relationship with Maulana sahib.

00:38I have known him for many years.

00:40I can come to his house at any time with his permission.

00:44I came to know that he was unwell.

00:46The doctor had advised him to take rest.

00:49I thought it appropriate that I should go.

00:51Our time was set, so I went.

00:54We had a long session.

00:56Maulana sahib had good discussions with his PTI during the 26th amendment.

01:04He informed us of his experiences.

01:07Then he asked about our discussions.

01:12I informed him that the discussions were not going on.

01:15The discussions were held on 23rd.

01:17They were not progressing.

01:18The reason for this is that we are not getting the document which we have been promised.

01:23When the document arrives, we will proceed with the discussions.

01:26He appreciated this.

01:28He said that the democratic process should continue.

01:35Maulana sahib has ignored his past and all the suggestions.

01:46He had good discussions with the PTI.

01:51We were expecting Maulana sahib to join us.

01:56His team is a part of Izbe-e-Ikhtalaf.

01:58We have gathered many of our colleagues.

02:01People's Party, Ijaz-ul-Aqsa, Aleem Khan, BAP, MQM.

02:08Maybe they will also bring their allies of Izbe-e-Ikhtalaf.

02:12But they did not include Maulana's group in the discussions.

02:16They did not include Achakzai sahib.

02:18He was their main hope.

02:21Anyhow, I informed Maulana sahib about the information I had.

02:27Maulana sahib expressed his good wishes for the success of the discussions.

02:32Did Maulana sahib give any warning regarding this?

02:36Because you said that his previous experiences with Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf

02:41on the basis of discussions, he presented some facts.

02:45Did he give any warning or suggestion?

02:48No, Maulana sahib did not give any such warning.

02:53In our team and in PTI's team, there are seasoned people.

03:00There are experienced people.

03:02There are old parliamentarians like Asad Qaisar sahib.

03:05There are lawyers.

03:06In our team, there is former PM Raja Parvez Ashraf sahib.

03:11There is Naib Wazir Azam sahib.

03:13There is Ishaq Dar sahib.

03:14There is former Minister of Internal Affairs, Rana Sanaullah.

03:17So, there are experienced people on both sides.

03:19There is no need to give any warning.

03:21We want the matters to move forward with a good spirit.

03:24And I think that is what they also want.

03:26But the difference I feel is that they are more careful than necessary

03:32that something should not happen that their chairman should not face.

03:36So, if they want to proceed cautiously, then fine.

03:39This is their option.

03:41Moving forward cautiously is one thing.

03:44But moving forward slowly is another.

03:47Because they have announced a cut-off date of 31st January.

03:51Now, if this cut-off date moves slowly,

03:54then how will the matter move forward?

03:56How will the matter be solved by 31st January?

04:00Do you see this happening?

04:02What do you think?

04:05I think that one thing is to be careful,

04:10and the other is to move forward slowly.

04:15And the third thing is not to move forward.

04:18We are standing on 23rd December.

04:21After 23rd December, 2nd January has passed.

04:24But 2nd January was the continuity of the first meeting.

04:28Neither has there been a solid result, nor has there been a solid result in the second meeting.

04:32In the first meeting also, we have received requests and requests

04:36that the commitment that you have made has not come yet.

04:39It is not necessary for there to be a meeting for this.

04:42They can go to the speaker and tell us that this is our demand.

04:46The speaker will send it to our committee or to their committee.

04:50Till now, there has not been any development.

04:53There is not a single thing that has become a reason for delay.

04:57This is a strange thing.

04:59Those who have given the deadline,

05:01they are delaying it.

05:03We have not given any deadline.

05:05We want to move forward even before 31st January.

05:07And we also want that if the matter is resolved before 31st January, then it should be done.

05:12Now, it is up to them.

05:15If they bring their charter, then again it will come to our court.

05:20Then we will have to see what response we will give.

05:23You are saying that you want that the matter should be resolved before 31st January

05:27and that there should be some solution.

05:29Do you want it to be resolved before 20th January?

05:31Yes.

05:33Look, I am saying that for us,

05:36to postpone the matter for a particular day,

05:41we have not set a date that this date will come

05:45and if the result does not come, then the matter will end.

05:48This will not happen.

05:49If the matter is going on till that time

05:51and we are understanding that the results are coming out well

05:54and the matters are moving forward amicably,

05:58then we can go ahead for 1 day, 2 days, 10 days, 15 days.

06:01And if we keep our pace fast

06:04and there are no delays like there have been so far,

06:07then if the matters are resolved before 31st January,

06:10then there is no harm in that.

06:11I was discussing this with Senator after 20th January

06:13because Donald Trump has to take oath.

06:16And obviously that is a matter on which

06:18many leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf

06:20are sitting off the camera.

06:25Look, we have no interest in which revolution is coming,

06:29or who is taking oath,

06:31or which government change is coming,

06:33which Jamaat is going, which is coming.

06:35We are least bothered.

06:37These are our matters.

06:39The political Jamaats here belong to Pakistan.

06:44They are playing their role in the Pakistani system.

06:48If they have an eye, then fine,

06:50they can make their preferences according to that.

06:53But we are not looking at anything like that.

06:56If PTI is looking that way

06:59and wants to give us a date according to that,

07:02then also we are ready.

07:04We are not looking for any excuse to

07:06turn a blind eye to negotiations

07:08or to take any policy against it.

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