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Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Kanwar Dilshad Former Secretary (E C P)
- Khalid Khokhar (Chairman Kisan Etihad)
- Shoaib Nizami (Reporter ARY News)
Makhsoos Nashiston Ka Faisla, PTI Ke Liye Umeed Ki Kiran?? Ali Muhammad Khan
PTI Mein Androoni Ikhtilafat Kab Khatam Hon Ge?? Ali Muhammad Khan
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Aniqa Nisar
Guests:
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Kanwar Dilshad Former Secretary (E C P)
- Khalid Khokhar (Chairman Kisan Etihad)
- Shoaib Nizami (Reporter ARY News)
Makhsoos Nashiston Ka Faisla, PTI Ke Liye Umeed Ki Kiran?? Ali Muhammad Khan
PTI Mein Androoni Ikhtilafat Kab Khatam Hon Ge?? Ali Muhammad Khan
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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, I am Anika Nisar with the program At-Arazi.
00:11Ladies and gentlemen, Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf, from 9th May to 9th May this year,
00:16has been deprived of many of its leaders and workers at this time,
00:21because all these leaders and workers are involved in the 9th May incidents.
00:26There are many evidences of this, because of which, at this time, those restrictions are seen.
00:31On the other hand, a conversation started from Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
00:35that if we want to talk, we will talk to the army, that is, we will talk to the establishment.
00:41Although, the government and the political parties have been inviting Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf for a conversation.
00:48They have been inviting repeatedly.
00:50Despite this, there was insistence on talking to the army.
00:54Regarding the 9th May incidents and the 9th May protests, and the matters that took place after that,
01:00it was made clear that until the 9th May is not apologized for,
01:06there will be no discussion of any kind.
01:10Listen to what was said in the press briefing of DJI-SKR.
01:13If a political thought and a political leader and a political party attack their own army,
01:19it will create hatred and discord between the people and the army.
01:22If the army of the same nation, ridicules the martyrs of the same nation,
01:26and propagandizes, then there will be no discussion.
01:28There is only one way for such a political thought and a political party,
01:31that they apologize with a sincere heart in front of the nation,
01:34and promise that they will leave the politics of hatred and take part in constructive politics.
01:38And anyway, the conversation gives the political parties a place in each other.
01:42In this, the army or the institutions are not at all suitable for conversation.
01:45After this, there was a reaction of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
01:48Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf rejected this press conference.
01:52They said, what will be apologized for? Listen.
01:56DJI-SKR held a press conference.
01:58As the Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly,
02:02and Secretary General of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
02:05I and my party reject that press conference.
02:09Who gave you the authority to do talks with someone?
02:12You are a tool, a tool of the state.
02:14The Prime Minister will give authority.
02:16Even if he is the Prime Minister of Basakian.
02:18Let's assume that he is the Prime Minister of Basakian. He will do it.
02:21Even after this reaction of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
02:23the senior leader of the Government of Time and Pakistan Muslim League Noon,
02:27Rana Sanaullah, is clearly inviting Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf once again,
02:33that come and talk.
02:35Let's try to straighten the political discourse.
02:38Let's try to move the political conversation forward.
02:40What is he saying? Listen to that too.
02:42We believe in talking. We are ready to talk.
02:46On the one hand, he says that we have no authority.
02:49And on the other hand, he says that we have stolen their mandate.
02:52If we have stolen the mandate, then we have all the power.
02:57Then talk to us. We have stolen the mandate.
02:59And if we have nothing, we have no power, we can't do anything,
03:04then how did we steal the mandate?
03:06Then we became innocent.
03:07If we are innocent, then sit with us.
03:09Sit and settle the matter. Talk.
03:11Those who have stolen the mandate, they want to talk to them.
03:14And those who have not stolen, they do not want to talk to them.
03:16On the one hand, Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf does not want to talk to Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
03:21Those who want to talk to Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
03:24Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf does not want to talk to them.
03:26When will this standstill end?
03:28This is an important question.
03:29On the other hand, under the banner of SIC,
03:31Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf, in Punjab,
03:34their seats, the matter of reserved seats,
03:37there has certainly been a discussion that
03:39those reserved seats that were given to other Jamaats,
03:42they have been mortgaged.
03:43Is there any hope in other places as well?
03:46We will talk to Ali Muhammad Khan Sahab about this.
03:48Ali Sahab, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
03:50Please tell us that Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf,
03:52this mortgage of reserved seats in Punjab,
03:55is there any hope in this?
03:57Because this is only a matter of mortgages.
03:59Matters have to move forward.
04:01We don't know how the situation develops.
04:03We don't know.
04:04Is there still a possibility that SIC and Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf
04:08will not be given reserved seats?
04:10Or do you not have any expectations?
04:12Allahumma salli wa sallim mubarak ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa al Ali Muhammad.
04:17No, we are hopeful.
04:19We think that, God willing, things will get better.
04:22The Supreme Court's decision came,
04:26but there is one thing,
04:28although we are waiting for the final decision,
04:31but in this regard,
04:33we can see a better situation.
04:35But if you look at the democratic process
04:38that has escalated in the last 3-4 days,
04:42there is a lot of pressure on that.
04:45You can talk about that later.
04:47But let me say one thing,
04:49that the way the Tehrik-e-Insaf mortgage has been cracked down yesterday,
04:56and there is no room for any political activity.
05:00Tehrik-e-Insaf is not a banned community,
05:03it is not a banned organization.
05:05And doing this to people,
05:07and stopping them from peaceful political activities,
05:10these things are not good overall.
05:12I think the government of the Muslim League has a lot of power in Punjab,
05:16so they should look at this.
05:18Ali sahab, you have already talked about the crackdown.
05:21You know very clearly that the DJI-SPR press briefing
05:24with regard to Norma A,
05:26and then the Army Chief's statement,
05:28they are saying that if you want to talk,
05:31then talk to the political parties.
05:33You don't want to talk to the army.
05:35Again and again, the PTI was talking to a lot of people,
05:39including Rauf Hassan sahab,
05:41that they will talk to the army,
05:43because they are at the helm of affairs, apparently.
05:47But you said something in my program,
05:50and you said that we will talk to the PMLN,
05:54to the political parties, to the political powers.
05:57Is the thought process changing in the PTI,
06:00that no, we don't want to talk to the army,
06:03there is a direct refusal.
06:05Now we will go to the political parties,
06:07considering that Rana Sinhaullah sahab said that
06:09we are ready to talk, you become the one to talk.
06:14There was a proposal from the government
06:17through the media,
06:19from some of their senior leadership.
06:22Mr. Imran Khan made a committee on that,
06:25there is no practical progress after that.
06:28The establishment had a role in Pakistan's politics,
06:31it was in both the near and far past.
06:34But we have never had direct negotiations with them in the past,
06:37nor did any of our political personalities
06:41say anything like this this time,
06:43that we want to sit at the table of negotiations with them.
06:46These are from the political parties of the political parties.
06:49You have some kind of engagement with the establishment,
06:53if there is any miscommunication,
06:55because there is miscommunication at the moment,
06:57to remove it, if someone wants to talk, that is a different thing.
07:00The concept of political forces and establishment
07:03or army, there is no scope for it in the present.
07:06If there are any negotiations,
07:08it does not seem difficult at the moment,
07:10but if there are any, it will be in the political forces.
07:15These negotiations will be in the political forces,
07:18Mr. Ali,
07:20but what is the delay in this?
07:22Because there is a continuous invitation.
07:25The Prime Minister, after taking the oath,
07:27when he came to the Assembly, he said,
07:29we should talk about the peace treaty.
07:31President Azar Zardari also said the same thing.
07:33Continuously, the senior leaders of PMLN are saying this.
07:36Now Mr. Rana is saying that we are ready to talk to you
07:39as a government and as a community.
07:42This committee that has been formed,
07:44there is no result in it,
07:46but inside PTI,
07:48there is a discourse going on that
07:50we really have to talk from here.
07:52On the other hand, the matter is shut.
07:54There is no hope of any kind.
07:57Until and unless you apologize.
08:02Apologizing is a childish thing.
08:05No one has to apologize to anyone here.
08:07The country runs on the law,
08:09it does not run on personal preference.
08:11But it is the initiative of the government.
08:14The committee that has been formed by Tehreek-e-Insaf is present.
08:17If the government is serious,
08:19in any kind of discussions,
08:21if they think that the country's largest community
08:23and a community that represents a large majority,
08:26a small thing,
08:28in the past 20 years,
08:32when has a single community
08:34ruled such a large area of Pakistan?
08:36In Sindh, the opposition leader,
08:38in Balochistan, the coalition,
08:40in the center, the government,
08:42in Punjab, the government,
08:44in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, in Kashmir,
08:46on the same scale, if the whole of Pakistan
08:48and two states,
08:50if they rely on Imran Khan
08:52and Tehreek-e-Insaf,
08:54you cannot dismiss them.
08:56In such a dismissive tone,
08:58the country does not run.
09:00You have your own work, we have our own work,
09:02you do your work, you like it,
09:04and we know what we have to do.
09:06So political forces should do it
09:08while remaining in their political domain,
09:10but the initiative is with the government.
09:12How much power is there?
09:14That is questionable.
09:16They have the capacity
09:18to go to any kind of solution,
09:20but despite that, we understand
09:22that if a time comes from their side,
09:24then it will be seen,
09:26then the onus will be on us.
09:28If the initiation comes from the government,
09:30it starts, because the government
09:32has to start.
09:34If we deny it, God forbid,
09:36or we do not give a strong answer to it,
09:38then the riders will get up on us.
09:40At this time, the ball is in the court of the government,
09:42but I think the situation of the government
09:44knows that if Mazar-e-Karab goes ahead,
09:46then ultimately it will be
09:48on the return of the mandate.
09:50And when it comes to the mandate,
09:52then the story of Form 47 will be revealed.
09:54They have a government of 178 seats,
09:56we have 178.
09:58You have made it very clear.
10:02You have said that
10:04the matter of forgiveness should be saved.
10:06When Mr. Khan came to know of this,
10:08he said what is being reported
10:10and that forgiveness should be sought from us.
10:12Is this also to be saved?
10:16Look,
10:18whoever has done something wrong,
10:20their option is
10:22to go to the court
10:24in the constitution.
10:26That happens in the reaction.
10:28Obviously, it happens in the reaction
10:30if there is such a talk.
10:32And always,
10:34why is there a government?
10:36Look, it is a very important forum of DG ISPR,
10:38but they all respect
10:40their constitutional issues.
10:42But when you come into the political arena,
10:44then the response comes to you.
10:46It comes even if you don't want to.
10:48No political party leaves space.
10:50You have to do politics.
10:52The majority of your 25 crore population
10:54is standing with you.
10:56This is the job of a political government.
10:58I think,
11:00if a press talk was made
11:02on the judicial inquiry
11:04and investigation of 9th May,
11:06if a political press talk was made,
11:08it was made by the Interior Minister
11:10or the Information Minister.
11:12Even if you answer them,
11:14it remains in a political corridor.
11:16That is why we think
11:18that there should be
11:20a demonstration of restraint from both sides.
11:22This was not done by Tariq-e-Insaaf.
11:26Ali Sahib,
11:28if Tariq-e-Insaaf had not done it,
11:30then I don't know which alphabets
11:32to name,
11:34which alphabets to name.
11:36You guys started this.
11:38In the political arena,
11:40you guys were dragging them.
11:42You guys were naming them.
11:48If we go back to the past,
11:50there are many things.
11:52If we go back to the past,
11:56we were repeatedly told
11:58that there should not be
12:00an establishment role in politics.
12:02But that thing came to light.
12:04Till the recent elections,
12:06those things have come to light.
12:08Unfortunately, I have to say
12:10that the free atmosphere
12:12in which the elections should have been held,
12:14that did not happen.
12:16When the elections were being held,
12:18at that time,
12:20there was no control of the Shahbaz government.
12:22At that time, it was a supervisory government.
12:24So why was all this happening with Tariq-e-Insaaf?
12:26Look,
12:28whoever took up the law
12:30on 9th May,
12:32whether he was in the PTI or not,
12:34he will face the courts.
12:36If he is a criminal,
12:38the courts will punish him.
12:40But the rest of the crores of people,
12:42the lakhs of voter supporters,
12:44the crores of people,
12:46the lakhs of workers,
12:48don't they have the right
12:50to do political activity?
12:52If we put it on the wall like this,
12:54we have been told in the past
12:56that people should never be
12:58discriminated against.
13:00We say that Tariq-e-Insaaf
13:02is a big community,
13:04a national community.
13:06We say that the small communities
13:08whose basis is on nationality,
13:10who do politics on hatred,
13:12there are some such communities in our country
13:14that target a community and talk there.
13:16But we say that
13:18they should also be brought into nationality.
13:20Dialogue with them at the national level
13:22so that this country becomes strong.
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17:10The most important thing for me is that
17:12our leader is standing strong.
17:14He is not asking for anything extra.
17:16He is saying, let's form a nation.
17:18Let's form a nation according to the constitution.
17:20Let's form a nation according to the constitution.
17:22I wanted to say something
17:24when your question was extended.
17:26I wanted to say something when your question was extended.
17:28Not only my Jamaat,
17:30I want to say this from all the Jamaats.
17:32The political Jamaat in Pakistan
17:34The political Jamaat in Pakistan
17:36operates in a very limited space.
17:38operates in a very limited space.
17:40operates in a very limited space.
17:42The political Jamaat can never do anything.
17:44The political Jamaat can never do anything.
17:46It always doesn't react.
17:48I have a profession.
17:50I have a profession.
17:52You get a little cover for it.
17:54You get a little cover for it.
17:56But it is purely a worker.
17:58But it is purely a worker.
18:00Believe me, the one who comes to the police station
18:02Believe me, the one who comes to the police station
18:04is a member of the family.
18:06He is a political worker.
18:08He is a political worker.
18:10Whether he is an MLA or a union council worker.
18:12Whether he is an MLA or a union council worker.
18:14He is very weak because
18:16everyone can threaten him.
18:18Everyone can threaten his family.
18:20So, the people you want to run the country from
18:22So, the people you want to run the country from
18:24have been made so weak over the past 30-40 odd years
18:26have been made so weak over the past 30-40 odd years
18:28that your system is standing on its feet with great difficulty.
18:30that your system is standing on its feet with great difficulty.
18:32So, if you push such a big Jamaat against the wall,
18:34these two Jamaats have already put their hands up.
18:36These two Jamaats have already put their hands up.
18:38Whether anyone sees it or not.
18:40If not, would Sharaf sahib have been the minister?
18:42If not, would Sharaf sahib have been the minister?
18:44So, why did he come from England?
18:46So, why did he come from England?
18:48Why is he sitting on the sidelines?
18:50Watching his players playing in the middle
18:52Watching his players playing in the middle
18:54on the pitch of form 47.
18:56on the pitch of form 47.
18:58Any general political worker...
19:00Any general political worker...
19:02The allegations that you are making...
19:04The allegations that you are making...
19:06When your Jamaat came into power in 2018...
19:08When your Jamaat came into power in 2018...
19:10Now, the issue of Angaar ul Haq is also going on.
19:12Now, the issue of Angaar ul Haq is also going on.
19:14But one thing is for sure
19:16that those who come to power
19:18are called against them.
19:20And these are the things that
19:22political issues will have to be resolved
19:24by sitting with political Jamaats.
19:26Now, at the end of the day,
19:28when is Pakistan sitting with political Jamaats?
19:30You threw the ball in the court of the government
19:32but they had already invited you.
19:34There should be some willingness from you.
19:36Whenever you talk to the leaders of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Ansar
19:38Whether you will talk or not,
19:40they say, first give us all the seats.
19:42First, solve the issues of form 47 and 45.
19:44First, solve the issues of form 47 and 45.
19:46Maybe after coming to the table, you can solve things.
19:48Maybe after coming to the table, you can solve things.
19:50So, when are you going to the table?
19:52So, when are you going to the table?
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29:46Mr. Qamar, you have talked about the election of the Senate.
29:48Mr. Qamar, you have talked about the election of the Senate.
29:50You have also said that a balance of power will be lost.
29:52You have also said that a balance of power will be lost.
29:54You have also talked about the constitution.
29:56You have also talked about the constitution.
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31:58You have also talked about the constitution.
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32:02You have also talked about the constitution.
32:04You have also talked about the constitution.
32:06I will give that to you as well.
32:08I will give that to you as well.
32:10We will continue after the break.
32:14Welcome back after the break.
32:16The biggest challenge for the government
32:18is economic challenge.
32:20is economic challenge.
32:22The biggest challenge is wheat.
32:24The biggest challenge is wheat.
32:26The farmers protested.
32:28The farmers protested.
32:30The government will not fulfill
32:32the promise of buying wheat
32:34The government will not fulfill
32:36the promise of buying wheat
32:40to those who import wheat.
32:42to those who import wheat.
32:44Farmers will keep protesting.
32:46Farmers will keep protesting.
32:48Thank you very much for joining us.
32:50Thank you very much for joining us.
32:54Thank you too for joining us.
32:56Thank you for joining us.
33:00I will start from you.
33:02It was a big protest, a protest of a high level.
33:05The farmers came out on the streets.
33:07And when the farmers come out on the streets,
33:10then there is a problem of food security, Mr. Khokhar.
33:14When the farmers are not getting their rights,
33:16then there is a problem of next year's crops.
33:19You are making such a big protest.
33:21You have been raising your voice for a long time.
33:23You should have come to a committee.
33:24The findings of that committee have not yet come forward.
33:27How do you see the seriousness of the government?
33:31Is it serious? Is it not?
33:33Yeah, in the middle.
33:34Thank you very much.
33:35There are two issues.
33:35One is the inquiry issue.
33:37And the second issue is that wheat should be bought from us.
33:40Respected, I am a farmer.
33:42My profession is also a farmer.
33:44My hobby is also a farmer.
33:46I have never seen this situation before.
33:48This time we did not get the rate of cotton.
33:50Then we did not get the rate of corn.
33:51Now we did not get the rate of wheat.
33:53At this time, the largest crop of farmers in Pakistan was wheat.
33:58And the situation is that at this time,
33:59wheat is being sold for Rs.25, Rs.26, Rs.27, Rs.28.
34:02We do not get so much money on loan.
34:05Now, as you just said,
34:06after this, the farmer has to sow two major crops on the wheat.
34:11Which will be exported.
34:13That is cotton and rice.
34:15Your total export was $31 billion last year.
34:20There was a share of $20 billion cotton in it.
34:22And there was a share of $2.5 billion rice in it.
34:26If you sow these two crops, your export will be over.
34:30Then when the time comes for wheat to be sown,
34:33the food security will be at risk.
34:34The farmer will automatically reduce at least 40% of his crops.
34:39Because he knows that the government is not buying.
34:41The government is going to end this business.
34:44At this time, I cannot describe the emotions of the farmers in words.
34:47How much they are in pain.
34:49If that poor man has fixed his daughter's marriage,
34:52which she has cancelled.
34:53He can't even get his children treated.
34:55He can't even buy groceries for his small family.
34:58Because when the money for wheat comes, their system works.
35:01Then the people who take loans are sitting at his doorstep.
35:04Because when the wheat comes, he has to pay for the diesel,
35:07for the manure, for the seeds.
35:10He has to pay the salary of his workers.
35:12He has to pay the salary of the one who gets the flesher.
35:15He has to pay the salary of the one who gets the harvester.
35:18But at this time, I cannot describe the emotions of the farmers in words.
35:22How much they are in pain.
35:25The second reason is that there is no mafia in this country.
35:28Is the mafia not going to rule this country?
35:29Is the mafia not going to earn?
35:31When the international rate has been doubling for 15-20 years.
35:34At that time, the mafia used to earn by smuggling.
35:38Now, if the international rate has decreased for the first time,
35:40the mafia has imported and earned.
35:42And I have a lot of pain in one thing.
35:44I have more trouble importing because
35:46this wheat is coming from there from Istanbul.
35:49And it was reaching Karachi in 23-24 hours at a very cheap rate.
35:53Did the poor man benefit from it?
35:56If today the CM of a cheap wheat is talking,
35:59when the Punjab government is talking,
36:00then that cheap wheat has come from the wheat of Kashgar.
36:03That importer's wheat has sold its expensive wheat.
36:06He has earned a profit in it.
36:09And there was a shareholder in front of you who was sitting in the government.
36:13Who was a government employee or a political minister.
36:16It was not possible without that shareholder.
36:19Because the import cap was terminated, the limit was terminated.
36:23It was made unlimited, the limit was not set.
36:25You can stop it as much as you want.
36:26You can order from 31st March to 31st March.
36:30This was cruelty.
36:31Because you were not allowed to go to Farvi.
36:33Understandable. I will come back to you.
36:36Mr. Nazari, the government had promised that there would be an inquiry.
36:39The report that was to come in the inquiry was also to come in the beginning of this week.
36:44Where is that report?
36:45Where are those steps?
36:46Where are those steps and the promise to send the criminals to Kaifur-e-Kirdar?
36:52Where is the promise that the wheat will be bought with the money that was promised?
36:56Where is the promise of the government where they had said that we will give support to the farmers.
37:04With support price, otherwise they will also give support.
37:07Where are all those promises?
37:08Look, two or three things are becoming very clear and new revelations are emerging.
37:14The committee that was made in this regard, the cabinet of the secretary,
37:19under the leadership of Kamal Nazar,
37:21the TORs were not given to it completely.
37:23Earlier, the TORs were given to Maryland to investigate the wheat imported in March and April, 2024.
37:30But those were very limited TORs and it could not have been justified
37:34because at that time there was no need for ECC permission.
37:37The wheat was already reaching Pakistan.
37:39The vessels were on the way.
37:41So, those TORs have now been expanded and Kamal Nazar will be able to go further
37:47and look at the reasons for this through the Nigrahan government or the PDN government.
37:52Now, it will take time.
37:53Earlier, they were given a time of six months to send it,
37:57but now there is no date in this and this committee will continue to run and will continue to make its report.
38:02Secondly, what we are continuously saying is that when Pakistan goes under the IMRF program,
38:06Pakistan's growth is very much affected.
38:08The easy formula given by the Minister of Treasury is that you support your farmers
38:13and your major five crops are wheat, maize, rice, cotton and sugarcane.
38:21These are the crops that will support your growth a lot.
38:25If we say that the price of wheat is 30 million tonnes in the country,
38:30then its amount is approximately Rs. 3,000 billion.
38:34If you keep reducing its price, then your GDP size can also be reduced by Rs. 600 to 700 billion,
38:40which will affect our growth.
38:42Secondly, it will have a very bad impact on our poverty level.
38:47Thirdly, the biggest solution to this is that if the government starts buying it,
38:52then all these issues will start getting resolved.
38:56Why is the government not buying it?
38:58What are the evidences?
39:01The government has just decided in the ECC that approximately 18 lakh tonnes will be bought for it,
39:05but its interest rate will be 22-23%.
39:08The government is spending an additional 41 billion on this.
39:11Before this, the initial 170 billion was spent by the ECC.
39:15And all those issues, the storage issues,
39:18the issue of not being able to buy this much,
39:20and the budget issues, have they all been resolved?
39:23No, the problem is that if this government announces
39:28that the Punjab government will buy it in 10 days,
39:30it will buy it in 5 days.
39:32The KP government announced today
39:34that the private sector in KP is ready to buy it in Rs. 3,500.
39:38Khalid Khokhar is talking about Rs. 2200, Rs. 2300, Rs. 2600.
39:42And where is Rs. 3,500?
39:44The KP government has announced in their food account
39:47that they have invested Rs. 14.3 billion,
39:50that they will start initially.
39:52If this signal is received from Punjab,
39:54Khalid Khokhar was saying that
39:56they have been planning for 6-7 months
39:58that they will get their daughter married when the VET comes,
40:00they will get her treated when the VET comes,
40:02someone will do business when the VET comes,
40:04someone will go out to study when the VET comes,
40:06now when the VET comes, they will...
40:08All those things will not happen.
40:10Khokhar, sum up the current situation.
40:14And in your opinion,
40:16should the government take steps
40:18according to the responsibility of the government at this time?
40:21Sum up that quickly.
40:24Because the situation at this time
40:26is out of our hands.
40:28Thank you very much.
40:30First of all, the majority of Kashmiri people
40:32are being unfair to Kashmiris
40:34when the loyal government is purchasing PASCO.
40:36So PASCO was purchased in Punjab
40:38in the 1980s, Pakistan is full.
40:40Now there is a purchase in the 1980s,
40:42not in the rest of the decades.
40:44Are they not Pakistani?
40:46This is the first thing.
40:48The second thing is that I request the government
40:50to be alert.
40:52Kashmiris have no money.
40:54Your next crops will be affected
40:56and food security will be at risk in the future.
40:58Didn't we learn a lesson
41:00from the fact that
41:02when we got 24 women
41:04martyred in flour lines
41:06and there were 3-3 km lines,
41:08I can say with confidence
41:10that it was natural that the international rate
41:12has decreased.
41:14If the international rate increases,
41:16will they set up 10-10 km lines?
41:18Will they get 100-100 martyrs instead of 24
41:20because there is no money for us
41:22in the lines of 10-10 km.
41:24Despite being a poor country,
41:26we are importing agricultural produce
41:28worth 10-12 billion dollars.
41:30The reason is that we have made agriculture
41:32political.
41:34You have divided the country.
41:36I have one last request
41:38from the government.
41:40We have sold wheat for 27-28 rupees.
41:42If a poor man gets food for 8 rupees
41:44throughout the year,
41:46I will believe that this government
41:48will not buy wheat after 2 months
41:50and increase the rate
41:52to 4,000-5,000 rupees.
41:54This is a very important point.
41:56If someone has bought wheat
41:58for a cheap price
42:00and has to sell it for a year
42:02and then increase the price of bread
42:04with any excuse,
42:06then many questions will arise.
42:08Thank you very much, Mr. Khokhar.
42:10It was a pleasure having you.
42:12Ultimately, the government
42:14will have to find a solution
42:16which is a permanent solution.
42:18Just making promises and lip-service
42:20will not be enough.
42:22The time will tell
42:24how long we will have to wait
42:26for that report.
42:28But a permanent solution
42:30is a must this time.
42:32There is no other way
42:34to move forward.
42:36Take care.
42:38Allah Hafiz.