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Tottenham Hotspurs boss Ange Postecoglou talks on the rate of manager's being sacked after a short tenure at clubs saying that "I maybe a dinosaur but i still believe in legacy coaching". Ange wants to build something sustainable at Spurs to get them to the stage of being constant contenders for trophies.  18/12/2024  Tottenham Hotspurs Training Ground, London, UK

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00:00When you took this job, I presume it was just about previous years

00:05and what would have happened and how the fans have vocalised it.

00:10Can't it be a surprise when things are going not as smoothly as you'd hope?

00:17That's a brilliant head game.

00:19I guess my question is, were you expecting that at the first sign of an issue?

00:25Oh, look, I think you just deal with it as I've always done.

00:28It's not my first experience.

00:30I think it was the first maybe two or three games at Celtic

00:35they were throwing tennis balls on the pitch,

00:37but in protest, actually, it disrupted games.

00:39So it's not the first time I've had to face this kind of thing.

00:42I always feel my role in that is, again,

00:44it's not telling people what to do,

00:48but it's hopefully trying to guide the football club

00:51into a place where all these things can be resolved in a secondary way

00:59where the focus, particularly on match day,

01:01is just on us winning games of football.

01:03And I think that's always been, I always felt that's been my role

01:07and that's what I've tried to do my whole career.

01:09Like I said, it's not the first time I've kind of been in a club

01:12where there's disenchantment with, you know,

01:14whether it's a board or an owner or some aspect of a football club.

01:21The reason I don't take positions on this

01:23is because I think my more important function

01:26is to make sure that, you know,

01:29the football side of the football club I'm involved in

01:33is guiding us forward rather than sort of the other way around.

01:37Because I just think there's no real, you know,

01:40there's no real kind of benefit in any other focus

01:46for me being as the manager of this football club

01:49as just me putting my energies into convincing people

01:52one way or another about anything,

01:55whether that's fans or the board or the media.

01:59I think what we do on the field,

02:02particularly on match days, is of primary importance.

02:05It feels like it's more of a frustration from the lack of focus.

02:09It seems to be a primary factor.

02:11This is a, I think, a primary effort.

02:14This is a chance.

02:15I mean, whilst your focus is on yourself and the team,

02:19do you feel like that's winning a good side of the field?

02:23Well, it's the unknown, isn't it, Tom?

02:27If I go on the general sentiment since I've been in this job,

02:34it feels like a trophy will just, like,

02:37make this place transform into something.

02:40So, let's see.

02:44Me, personally, like I keep saying, I want more than that.

02:47I just don't think it's just about getting a trophy.

02:50I think when you want to build a successful, sustainable club

02:54in terms of competing for trophies every year,

02:57it's more than that.

02:58But it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong about something,

03:04even whilst being in this job,

03:05that maybe a trophy is what it needs.

03:07I don't know.

03:08And just finally, when you were talking about last month

03:10and Gary Hill, it kind of goes against

03:13what you were talking about in terms of building something.

03:17What gives you confidence that you're going to have that kind of success?

03:21It could be confidence, could be naivety, could be I don't care.

03:28What sort of, whether people, whether I'm allowed to see it out,

03:32I'm just not going to change.

03:33Look, I kind of may be a dinosaur in that,

03:37but I still believe in legacy coaching.

03:39I still believe in doing things that will last and make a difference.

03:45And it goes in the face of everything else

03:47that's happening in the world of football.

03:48I mean, you guys will know better than me,

03:50I don't know what the average tenure of a Premier League manager is,

03:52but I'd hazard to guess it'd be less than 18 months probably.

03:56I see very rarely managers going beyond their second year

04:00unless they've won something

04:03or the club's stuck by them for some particular reason.

04:07But I just, you know, I keep saying I kind of feel blessed

04:14that I'm kind of, you know, at the stage of my career where I am,

04:17where, you know, I'm just not interested in any other kind of methodology

04:23in terms of coaching, of just going in and, you know,

04:26winning something and then moving on and then winning something else.

04:29It's, you know, I still believe in the things I enjoy,

04:34like I said, stuff that lasts.

04:36And no one's found a way yet to do that in a quick manner.

04:43No one has in one year or in two years built something that's sustainable.

04:48They've had success, but then it usually falls apart pretty quickly after.

04:51So I'm not going to sort of change who I am at this stage of my career,

04:57but if I was starting out, I'd probably, I've got no doubt,

05:01I'd have a different mindset.

05:04You'd go in as a firefighter, you'd just go,

05:05you know what, I'll get some results, just get this club up and running,

05:09you know, think it's not going to last more than maybe two years

05:14and see what my next move's going to be.

05:19Can you tell us more about Destiny, was that just fatigue then?

05:22Yeah, yeah, he's probably the only one we haven't given a rest to.

05:27So he actually wanted to continue on the night,

05:30but obviously the game had started well, so we took him off.

05:34Yeah, it's just fatigue and, you know, again,

05:37the reality is if he plays tomorrow night, he won't play Sunday or vice versa,

05:41because he's one of the few,

05:43we've managed to give Pedro a bit of a rest on the other side.

05:46I mean, the full-back positions are pretty demanding for us.

05:49But Destiny, every time I've kind of wanted to,

05:53he's had to play Europe because obviously Jed's not available for Europe,

05:57and since Ben's been out, he's just played every game, so it's just fatigue.

06:00You had him on the bench for a couple of games, but he wasn't there.

06:04Yeah, he had a dental or tooth extraction that kept him out of the weekend,

06:10so he was bedridden, but he's back available.

06:14Is he someone who's probably going to leave you next month?

06:18I was just wondering if you brought Jed back into the team.

06:22Well, he's available, yeah, so he's available for selection,

06:25and again, tomorrow apart, we'll get Biss back,

06:28but apart from that, that still means everyone else is out,

06:31so he'll definitely be back in the squad

06:35and the opportunity to use him here,

06:37because again, we'll have probably only four first-team players

06:40on the subs bench, of which he'll be one.

06:45Just to pick up on a couple of things,

06:47you said how important it is for the crowd to get behind your team.

06:50Conversely, have you experienced in your career

06:52when negative reaction from the crowd has impacted the team?

06:56Does it impact when there's sort of a noise around,

06:59on the pitch?

07:01I think it does in terms of, like I said,

07:04when you play at home, I think it can be a major advantage

07:07when the support is all aligned

07:15with everything else in the football club, for sure.

07:18It does help, but at the same time,

07:22you can't mandate that, you can't tell people how to feel,

07:25as I keep saying.

07:27If there are sort of fractures in that,

07:36then of course you're not getting the maximum out of you,

07:39you can't lock anything else in your organisation.

07:45It can have an effect.

07:47At the same time, we as the people out there,

07:52particularly the players and myself on game day,

07:55we've got to be able to still maintain the level of performance

08:00to get the job done, irrespective.

08:02Hopefully that means that we bring everyone along on the journey.

08:07One other thing about Russell Martin,

08:09just striking on the outside,

08:10it just seems a bit cruel that he gets wheeled in post-match,

08:13has to stand up in front of the cameras

08:15and get sacked ten minutes later.

08:17As a fellow manager, do you get that feeling too?

08:21Do you think that was wrong?

08:23Is there a good way of doing it?

08:26I really don't know.

08:28It's such...

08:32I don't know, we've lost all sort of...

08:39...modes of respect in our society

08:42where guys are in jobs and they're putting up names

08:47of who's going to replace them while they're still working.

08:50I mean, it's just...

08:53We've crossed that line now and it's pretty much open slated.

08:58You can do it whatever you like.

09:00You can do it in any way you like

09:01and no-one's going to say anything about the fact

09:03that a man who, whether it's Russell or Gary,

09:10I'm pretty sure 24-7 have just done everything in their power

09:16to, you know...

09:19It's not for the want of trying and they're families

09:22and yet, you know, we're just so...

09:27As a society, we're just so quick to just throw people

09:31in the trash and just, like, move on really quickly

09:34with no thought or any care around it.

09:37I said, I mean, I don't know if there's a good way

09:40or best way of handling...

09:43It's why I've left before it's ever happened to me, mate.

09:46I kind of jump out before that comes my way.

09:51So, but it's...

09:53I guess it's just, like I said, we've crossed that line now.

09:56I think it's open slather and I get people say,

09:58well, managers have always been sacked,

10:00but I just think now it's gone beyond that

10:03where we forget there's a human being involved.

10:06This job is the hardest job now.

10:09In any walk of life, we say politically,

10:12it's harder than any job because, like I said,

10:14the tenure and the longevity of this role now

10:18means that you go into it,

10:21very few are going to come out of it without any scars.

10:27I don't mind as a...

10:29Oh, yeah. Oh, mate, come on.

10:32I mean, how many times...

10:34He has an election, whatever, for whatever he is.

10:37I have one every weekend, mate.

10:40That's what I'm saying, mate.

10:41We have an election every weekend

10:43and I either get voted in or out.

10:45Well, good. Thanks, guys.

I maybe a dinosaur but i still believe in legacy coaching - Ange

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