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Podcast - Herbert
A.C. MILAN OFFICIAL
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12/13/2024
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00:00
It is the 125th birthday of Milan and the mission is fulfilled.
00:07
The remains of the founder of Milan go in their place, in the family of the illustrious Milanese, to the Monumental Cemetery of Milan.
00:15
For several years there was already the inscription of Herbert Kilpin at the Milanese Pantheon,
00:21
but now even his vibrant bones of Rosso Nero go to the right place, at the right time.
00:30
For the ninth son of Edward Kilpin and Sarah Smith, there are still pilgrimages to Nottingham,
00:37
to Mansfield Road, where he was born, in that subtle boundary between man and legend,
00:42
which he investigates with his analysis, the historical lawyer Rosso Nero, Leandro Cantamessa.
00:48
I have always wondered if Herbert Kilpin was a person turned legend or a legend turned person.
00:58
I prefer this second solution, because its scope in the history of Milan
01:05
resembles more to what belongs to the category of legends, rather than to what is human.
01:14
It is moving, because this gentleman, who comes from England, from Nottingham,
01:22
after having occupied, if it is true what I have read here and there,
01:27
from Pizzi and Merletti, comes to work, first in Turin, then in Milan,
01:33
and comes to invent football in this city, football that already existed in Genoa and Turin.
01:42
This is a symbol, certainly, and seeing Kilpin in the photographs of the time
01:48
is also vaguely paradoxical, because the shirt was what it was,
01:55
but they played with long trousers and I don't think they had particular tactics when they went out on the pitch.
02:05
The thing that makes even more impression is the distinction between that football
02:13
and the football that has been played for many years, let's say until the 1960s, and today's football.
02:22
I must say that, compared to that, it has lost a lot of romanticism and it is a sin, all considered.
02:30
I conclude by saying what I have already said at the beginning, it is a legend, it was very good like that.
02:41
Kilpin, on his land, was a footballer belonging to the second category of fans,
02:46
but from us, at the end of the eighties, he was considered an ace.
02:51
Herbert went down in history for his photo with the English cap,
02:56
a red and black shirt with collar and Milan stamp, red cross in white field,
03:01
long trousers made of canvas, almost like a screen, and socks supported by an elastic.
03:07
Football was his true love, so much so that on the day of his marriage, in 1905,
03:12
Kilpin flees to Genoa, where he is scheduled for a meeting between the Grasshoppers of Zurich
03:18
and an Italian representative, let's hear the journalist of the Gazzetta dello Sport, Massimo Oriani.
03:26
Without Herbert Kilpin, Milan would not exist. He was practically one of the fathers of Italian football.
03:32
He started playing for Internazionale Torino, the first two Italian championships,
03:38
lost against Genoa to the point that he promised his opponents that he would found a team that would beat them.
03:46
So when he moved to Milan, he did, because he founded AC Milan,
03:51
Milan Football and Cricket Club, with which he won the first Scudetto in 1901,
03:57
and the motto, which is what we still hear today in San Siro before every game, is his.
04:03
We will be a team of devils, our colors will be red like fire and black like the fear we will instill in our opponents.
04:11
Unfortunately, he died very young, in 1916, his bones are still kept in the Famedio of the Monumental Cemetery of Milan,
04:21
where there are the great protagonists of the history, not only clearly sporting, Milanese,
04:27
and thanks to some great Milanese supporters, Luigi La Rocca, who is one of the great historic fans of Milan,
04:37
a very beautiful documentary has also been shot, which can be found on YouTube, The Lord of Milan,
04:43
where the whole history of Kilpin is retraced, and where you can also see how in his apartment,
04:49
where he was born, above the butcher shop in Nottingham, there is now a plaque that recalls his birth,
04:56
and there is a beautiful emblem of Milan on the window of that shop, which is currently unfortunately abandoned.
05:02
However, Kilpin is the history of Milan, it is Milan.
05:07
An all-round founder, he expressed himself in all roles, both managerial and sporting,
05:13
he was in fact a defender, midfielder, attacker, coach, captain and manager, after being nothing less than the founder.
05:21
And here is some analogy with what 87 years after Kilpin would have been the re-founder of Milan, Silvio Berlusconi,
05:30
who was the owner, the president, the fan, the father of the players,
05:34
and that if he had had a little more time, he would have gladly become the coach.
05:39
But if Silvio was born in Milan, the city of Alessandro Manzoni, Herbert was born in Nottingham, the city of Robin Hood,
05:47
as the historic black and red speaker, Gegio Lanzoni, recalls.
05:52
We love Herbert Kilpin all his life.
05:55
The wonderful origin, he was born in Nottingham, the city of Robin Hood,
06:00
grandson and son of a butcher and a tailor, so a humble origin, but he does not stop,
06:06
he begins to live his life as a worker.
06:09
Nottingham was famous for Tessile, Pizzi and Merletti, and then he leaves his land to pursue his passion.
06:18
This is, I think, the great strength that Herbert Kilpin gave to the history of Milan,
06:26
without borders, where your passion takes you to the top.
06:31
And Pizzi and Merletti, the details, the style, the search for beauty.
06:38
I think his story is our DNA.
06:44
His mythology is made by the flask that, according to some, he also carried on board,
06:50
while the other Kilpinian icons are the mustache, the good whiskey and the cigarette.
06:56
If you think of Herbert, passion, spontaneity, humanity come to mind.
07:02
A sort of black and red baron in British style, a black and red thread of fate
07:07
that makes it seem absolutely normal and consequential, then over the decades,
07:13
that Mr. Paron could only become a Milanese.
07:17
The thoughts and feelings of the famous journalist Andrea Vianello.
07:21
For us Milanese Romans, who live a strange feeling, to love the team from our heart from afar,
07:29
and here in this city, instead, to be, how to say, surrounded by the madness of Romanists and Laziari,
07:36
the roots are important.
07:38
And if they arrive at the end of the 20th century, it's another city, Milan.
07:43
But when I chose to become a Milaner at the age of eight,
07:47
I certainly did it because there were great players like Rivera, Prati, a wonderful team,
07:51
but also for the colors.
07:53
And who chose the colors? Our founder.
07:56
With that wonderful phrase in which he said that we would become a team of devils,
08:03
red like fire, black like the fear that we should instill in our opponents.
08:11
That phrase is our passion.
08:16
The remains of Herbert Kielpin, for years hidden, unknown to everyone,
08:21
at the Major Cemetery in Milan, in the field reserved for the deceased Protestants,
08:25
were found after careful research by a collector and historical memory of Milan,
08:31
Luigi Larocca.
08:32
And thanks to him, they were deposited, for the interest of the Rossoneri Society itself,
08:38
in a tomb more consonant to his fame, in a column of the Monumental Cemetery of Milan.
08:44
What remains today of all this?
08:47
He tells it with his fresh and sparkling voice.
08:50
The Milanese influencer, Alessandro Jacobone.
08:53
Herbert Kielpin was not just a footballer, a dreamer, a revolutionary, as they say.
08:59
With few friends and a passion for football, he founded AC Milan.
09:03
Not for fun, but for love.
09:06
Kielpin carried with him not only the English football technique,
09:10
but also an idea of a team that would have united the whole city under one flag,
09:14
obviously that of the Rossoneri.
09:16
Thanks to him, Milan finds a sporting identity.
09:19
And that small company, almost by chance, then becomes a legend.
09:24
The legend that we all know.
09:26
Herbert Kielpin is the beating heart of Milan,
09:28
the first beat of a story destined to never end.
09:32
This is his legacy, this is all the magic that accompanies him.
09:39
In 1908, marred by ostracism for the contrariety of football faith to foreigners,
09:47
and for the latest corporate affairs that had led to the foundation of Inter,
09:51
Herbert played his last game with Milan on April 12, 1908.
09:57
Leaving Milan, Kielpin remained for some time near the football he could not do without,
10:03
coaching the boys of Enotria, a minor Milanese team.
10:07
But health betrayed him and Herbert Kielpin disappeared prematurely on October 22, 1916.
10:15
The place of the foundation, of the respect for the founder,
10:19
was often occupied also by toasting every midnight of December 16 in the center of Milan,
10:25
the historic Rossonero, Stefano Pozzoni.
10:28
Herbert Kielpin represents one of the most selfless pioneers of Italian football,
10:32
of which he widely imposed the elementary rules, both in the game and in the discipline of training.
10:37
For Milan he represents the founding father of his first city sports company,
10:42
born precisely for the game of football,
10:44
which will immediately collect its first successes in the national field,
10:48
and then become, in its 125 years of history,
10:51
one of the most glorious and titled football companies in the world.
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