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š±SE ENCONTRARON PAMPITA Y LA CHINA SUĆREZ
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12/5/2024
š Pampita y la china se encontraron en un evento y se saludaron y abrazaron.Tras la revelaciĆ³n de chats privados en el programa de Susana GimĆ©nez por parte de Nara, las mujeres podrĆan hacer una denuncia penal.
š£ļø Guillermo Andino
š SeguĆ en #AndinoYLasNoticias
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00:00
like a top three, which is Wanda, La China, and Pampita.
00:04
Of course, of course, with Pampita on top.
00:06
Pampita on top.
00:07
Pampita on top, but she was in all this mess because Wanda added her.
00:11
Wanda, when she was in the armchair chatting with Susana JimƩnez,
00:15
who performed very well.
00:16
Who is she going for now? I think she's going for Tini.
00:18
Suspectly Susana for the next ones, because she's performing very well.
00:21
And I saw a promo that is going to be a note,
00:23
Susana at this age, with artificial intelligence,
00:26
with Susana de la Mari,
00:28
because it's the 50th anniversary of the film.
00:31
Of course, Maradona did it, do you remember?
00:33
On the night of the 10th, there was no artificial intelligence,
00:35
but Diego interviewed her.
00:36
As it was Diego's reportage, it will be Susana's reportage.
00:39
CGPT will be in the middle, and all artificial intelligence,
00:41
so that it comes out well.
00:42
Will Susana read the questions in artificial intelligence too?
00:45
I don't know.
00:46
Anyway, Susana is total genius.
00:47
But hey, in Susana's living room,
00:49
a mess was created when Wanda grabbed the phone
00:51
and showed Susana old chats that Wanda had had
00:55
with La China Suarez when they were friends.
00:57
Before this link with Icardi appeared
01:00
and exploded more than three years ago.
01:03
Of course, the situation was to see what the reaction was.
01:05
On the one hand, La China, who was supposed to come to justice,
01:08
because it's part of her intimacy and her image
01:10
and her care of what were totally intimate and private conversations.
01:14
And what was Pampita going to say?
01:16
That in this fight between the two of them,
01:17
they had nothing to do with each other,
01:19
that she was looking at her from the side,
01:20
that she had already had to answer about her separation.
01:22
Well, how did they return with this image that we are observing?
01:25
Yesterday, in an event, in an eccentric shopping mall,
01:27
also very visited by tourists.
01:29
Hugs, La China and Pampita.
01:32
Pampita who understands everything too, right?
01:33
Yes, of course.
01:34
Pampita who understands everything.
01:35
She handles her brand and her figure like no one else.
01:37
Now I ask you, Deborah,
01:39
spreading private chats, is it a crime?
01:43
Yes, do you remember back in March when I told you,
01:45
be careful, don't resend the chats that are sent to you,
01:48
because you can't resend the chats.
01:51
The chats were assimilated to the private correspondence
01:54
and have constitutional protection.
01:57
Is there jurisprudence for that, Deborah?
01:58
Yes, and there are oral courts dedicated specifically
02:02
to everything that is disclosure of private correspondence.
02:06
And is there a sentence?
02:07
Is there a leading case?
02:08
Yes, yes, and I made a trial.
02:10
Well, you know that technically the chat is a social network.
02:13
Of course.
02:14
But beyond that it is a social network.
02:16
But of course, for justice it is private correspondence.
02:18
Yes, and I add something else to you.
02:19
Today it even has the value of a contract,
02:21
if you put yes, I accept.
02:22
Totally.
02:23
If you put a judgment, the thumb up, do you remember?
02:25
Of course.
02:26
In fact, I think you asked me back in March,
02:29
if I make a WhatsApp contract and I put yes, it's ok,
02:33
does it have legal value?
02:35
I said yes, totally.
02:36
I repeat myself in the questions.
02:37
But no, you follow the same line,
02:39
because in reality people don't remember in March.
02:43
There are people who don't know,
02:44
who think that if I put yes on WhatsApp, we'll see later.
02:47
No, you're forced, you're forced.
02:48
And in addition, the mails also have a binding force,
02:53
because the reality is that the letter no longer exists.
02:55
No, of course.
02:56
So, the gun correspondence that the national constitution says
02:59
was assimilated with the change of technology to the chats,
03:04
to everything, it could even end up
03:07
a jurisprudence on conversations on Instagram.
03:11
Ah, well.
03:12
Because in reality it has to go too.
03:14
The Instagram chat you say, the private part.
03:15
Of course.
03:16
Can China only go against Huanda or Pampita too?
03:19
Because there they were also talking about her
03:21
and situations that were closed doors,
03:23
I mean, both.
03:24
I think Article 248 of the Penal Code has an important penalty,
03:28
that is, the dissemination and dissemination,
03:30
more here because it has to do with privacy.
03:33
That is, two crimes are counted,
03:36
the issue of the dissemination of private correspondence
03:38
and the violation of privacy.
03:40
So I think it will continue to happen
03:43
because everyone will continue to share the chats,
03:46
but it would be good for people to take it into account.
03:49
I have a question.
03:50
Do you share when you resend and when you capture?
03:54
Also, it's the same.
03:55
It's the same?
03:56
It's the same, it's worse,
03:57
because you are actually transforming it into a capture.
04:00
The image, the right of the image is also there in the middle.
04:03
So what you are doing,
04:04
you are giving it the value of a document.
04:06
As is.
04:07
I remember that in some applications,
04:09
I even warned you,
04:10
if I sent you a message,
04:11
if you made a capture,
04:12
there was a message of that situation.
04:15
Of care.
04:16
Of care.
04:17
They just captured a conversation you had.
04:20
Justice is still a bit reluctant
04:23
to give a course to this type of action
04:26
because they understand that the dissemination,
04:28
to what extent is to disseminate.
04:30
But if you, for example,
04:31
put in a judicial file,
04:33
which can be one of Wanda's intentions,
04:36
a chat of this characteristic,
04:39
the person who is a victim
04:41
of intrusion into their privacy
04:43
can report it criminally.
04:45
But as if it were proof?
04:47
It's proof.
04:48
Because this chat is nothing.
04:49
It's proof.
04:50
But I'm still saying,
04:51
but it's an intimate conversation of theirs,
04:53
of the judicial part,
04:54
of what happens between Cardi and her.
04:56
It's also proof.
04:57
But it's also proof.
04:58
All massive chats,
04:59
I use it in courts.
05:01
If I need to prove something
05:03
and I manifest that this existed
05:05
and I have the chat,
05:06
I use it as proof.
05:08
Even to buy land.
05:10
Who is going to judge who?
05:12
China Suarez, after what happened.
05:14
Because everyone shows the chat,
05:16
everyone is going around everywhere.
05:18
What happens is that here you have to have a point.
05:21
Pampita, who is beyond,
05:22
who has lived much more serious situations,
05:24
understands what is happening.
05:26
Remember that both China and Pampita
05:29
have children with Benjamin VicuƱa.
05:31
They are brothers, they are family.
05:33
We have to talk about school,
05:35
parties, birthdays.
05:37
And it happened.
05:38
What happened, I don't forget it.
05:40
But of course, it could generate a current problem.
05:43
I despise Pampita.
05:45
It is China that is going to face a trial
05:48
or a lawsuit, at least for what was the disclosure.
05:51
Not only did Susana show it.
05:53
Later, those same chats that Susana showed her
05:55
and that Susana read,
05:56
then she took out the phone,
05:57
appeared on social networks.
05:59
It was for more, it was nothing more.
06:01
I show you, look what they send me here.
06:03
And you read it.
06:04
Well, was it true or a lie?
06:05
Well, that was already published on social networks.
06:07
And who shared it?
06:09
Against Wanda.
06:10
Against Wanda.
06:11
Against Wanda.
06:12
Initially against Wanda.
06:13
What Pampita did was learn a lot
06:16
about the need to unite the family.
06:18
And of these disruptive families with China
06:21
and suddenly VicuƱa in the middle.
06:23
He left aside the hatred, the quarrel
06:25
or resentment of the children.
06:27
Remember, Deborah, that Susana,
06:30
with the quarrel she generates,
06:32
supposedly representing many women,
06:34
tilde to GarcĆa MoritĆ”ndez,
06:36
I don't remember what term he used.
06:37
Stupid.
06:38
Stupid, yes.
06:39
And Pampita, kind of like ...
06:41
No, he stopped her.
06:42
Because we are going to be a family, always.
06:45
With a lot of class, he told her,
06:46
I ask you not to tell him that,
06:48
because we are a family.
06:50
In fact, I thought there were a lot of parties
06:52
that they shared when they were with Roberto.
06:54
They played soccer together, BenjamĆn and Roberto.
06:57
For a long time they played with one of the children.
06:59
I say, generate that, because life goes on
07:02
and each one goes in his own direction.
07:04
Another point.
07:05
Are you invoicing the three?
07:07
They don't stop with this, I mean ...
07:09
History, history.
07:13
Do you know that phrase?
07:14
Paris is worth a mass?
07:15
Make my judgment,
07:16
that in total I am still collecting
07:17
and it is enough for me to say
07:18
that Shakira is the woman,
07:19
she does not cry,
07:20
the woman invoices.
07:21
Because it's okay,
07:22
a judgment is sent here.
07:23
I call it the Shakira ideology.
07:26
Lucio, show Michel that we both invoiced with this.
07:29
Nothing happens.
07:30
They are going to get bored.
07:32
We are talking about soccer, the four of us.
07:34
What is good is that they preserve the boys.
07:36
Do you understand?
07:37
But Debora, sorry,
07:38
with this media exposure,
07:39
they don't preserve anything.
07:41
Pampita did.
07:42
Yes, Pampita did.
07:43
What boys are they going to preserve?
07:45
That would be an example to take into account.
07:46
That the television,
07:47
that the social networks,
07:48
that the portals,
07:49
I ask you to take it.
07:50
Who would not be preserving the boys here?
07:52
No, no,
07:53
it seems to me that the precautionary measure
07:55
does not allow us,
07:56
but let's say that the last event
07:59
of the farƔndula,
08:00
that has to go to the portals.
08:02
You are a child and you see through social networks
08:05
or through portals,
08:06
the miseries, fights, infidelities,
08:09
and discussions of your family.
08:11
There is no preservation.
08:13
But Lucio, that's why I asked you.
08:15
I asked Debora.
08:16
You have to preserve the boys,
08:18
but if one of these people,
08:20
or another,
08:21
on their Instagram,
08:23
posts a photo with those boys,
08:25
can I use it later?
08:26
No.
08:27
On television?
08:28
No.
08:29
First there may be the precautionary measure.
08:30
Beyond the social network.
08:31
Beyond the right to the children.
08:32
The lawyer.
08:33
The right to the children.
08:34
No, no, but there is a precautionary measure.
08:35
And Wanda Nara said,
08:36
it does not matter the precautionary measure,
08:38
I pay you the sanction that corresponds
08:41
in Susana's program,
08:43
because I did hear about my children.
08:45
Wanda charged 18 thousand dollars
08:47
for that note with Susana.
08:49
She said she was going to donate it
08:50
to the San Isidro hospital.
08:51
And now,
08:52
I was talking to Wanda's lawyer,
08:53
she says they are waiting,
08:54
she did not receive any notification
08:56
from China Suarez,
08:57
Dr. Guadalupe Alebo Guerrero.
09:00
Is she a partner of his?
09:02
No, they are from the Pajarola studio,
09:04
they have fired Dr. Ana Rosenfeld,
09:08
who represented her,
09:10
I do not know where Ana is,
09:11
but today,
09:12
all the representation of Wanda
09:14
is from the Pajarola studio,
09:15
and the doctor says,
09:16
we have not received anything yet.
09:17
But they are not focused
09:19
on the trial,
09:20
the claim that China can make to them,
09:21
but on the trial they have with Mauro Icardi,
09:24
especially on the issue
09:25
of the tenancy of the boys.
09:26
Mauro Icardi now told me,
09:27
Dr. Guerrero, Guadalupe Guerrero,
09:29
that they are going to put
09:30
a well-known criminal lawyer,
09:33
he does not want to tell me the name,
09:34
I'm waiting to know what it is,
09:35
to determine what is missing.
09:38
Because the separation of assets is done.
09:40
Yes, but it is the tenancy.
09:41
It is the tenancy,
09:42
let's say,
09:43
what was the exclusion of the home.
09:44
And besides,
09:45
can Icardi take this
09:46
to the Turkish states?
09:47
Yes, he will do it.
09:48
Surely yes,
09:49
because the seat of the
09:50
Conjuval home was there.
09:51
There it is.
09:53
The seat of the Conjuval home is there.
09:54
And there they are going to have
09:55
a big problem of jurisdiction,
09:56
because for me the Turkish judge is competent.
09:59
And what is going to be Wanda?
10:01
And Wanda is going to have to move to Turkey
10:05
or is going to have to reach an agreement
10:07
of a visitation regime like the people.
10:09
A justice a little less feminist
10:11
than here, than Argentina.
10:12
Well,
10:13
Argentine justice is feminist.
10:15
But let's take into account one thing,
10:17
that here we must always preserve
10:18
the interests of the minor
10:19
and the contact of the minor with the father.
10:21
Of course.
10:22
So,
10:23
it seems spectacular to me that Icardi
10:24
has hired a criminal lawyer
10:26
because this front that Wanda has already opened
10:29
with the eviction and with the complaint
10:32
in the police station,
10:33
opens the criminal forum.
10:35
A front that went backwards
10:37
because the doctors of the Pallarola study
10:40
said that they were not going to advance
10:42
with the criminal case,
10:43
but now the criminal case is advanced by Mauro,
10:46
hiring a criminal lawyer
10:49
and will go for everything, let's say.
10:51
For all the situation that occurred
10:53
in relation also to what happened
10:54
from the restaurant,
10:56
which now I do not remember what it is called.
10:57
Gardiner.
10:58
Gardiner.
10:59
From now on,
11:00
all that is instances that go to the court.
11:02
And apart from that,
11:03
one thing can also happen,
11:04
because there is a situation
11:06
that can be the impediment of contact.
11:08
That is a criminal law.
11:09
That is,
11:10
if Wanda arrives or any woman
11:13
arrives to prevent the contact
11:15
of her children with her father,
11:17
it can be...
11:18
Yes, there is the...
11:19
Yes, but it's not going to happen.
11:20
It's not going to happen.
11:21
Wanda does not want.
11:22
It's not going to happen.
11:23
I hope not.
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