🔴 CAUSA SEGUROS: ALBERTO FERNÁNDEZ RESPONDIÓ PREGUNTAS ANTE EL JUEZ ERCOLINI

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👉 Tras la declaración indagatoria del expresidente Alberto Fernández, su abogada, Mariana Barbitta, se comprometió a hablar con la prensa. En medio de un fuerte dispositivo de seguridad, Barbitta negó las acusaciones de tráfico de influencias y defendió la actuación del exmandatario.   👉 Seguí en #AndinoYLasNoticias

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00:00He finished his statement and there is movement, right?

00:02There is movement, exactly.

00:04Let's wait and see if Mariana Barbita, Alberto Fernández's lawyer, speaks.

00:08It is assumed that they had committed to speak, right?

00:11Exactly, that's what the colleagues who have been covering Comodoro P from early on told us.

00:15Obviously, there was a security device that surrounded the ex-president Alberto Fernández

00:20so that the press did not approach him, that he was not going to speak.

00:24But he did commit to his letter to give statements

00:27when he finished his statement, which has just happened.

00:31We see that there is a security operation so that the press does not get too close.

00:34Well, we are up, we are down.

00:37We are seeing a little bit of what happens in the corridors of Comodoro P

00:41and Luciana's live movement.

00:43Lu, let's see, attention, because there may be movement.

00:46And the rain is back. Lu.

00:49Yes, yes, Facundo, as it is.

00:51There may be movement from one minute to another.

00:53Dr. Barbita could come and speak.

00:56No, it will be easy, I tell you, to interview her here,

00:58because the truth is that, as you said,

01:00everything gets complicated with the weather conditions

01:04and the wind that blows is really very, very intense.

01:10We are working, obviously, waiting for Dr. Barbita,

01:15but, well, the weather conditions, as I told you, are not helping at all.

01:20We are waiting. Let's see, attention, Facundo.

01:24This white Corolla car, I understand,

01:27is the same one that had brought it to the former president.

01:30We hear the sirens.

01:34Well, there was a situation with a press photographer

01:37and then the former president Alberto Fernández is leaving

01:42after the statement, the first statement on this cause,

01:47the cause for alleged corruption in relation to insurance,

01:52after arriving around 9.30, 10.45 a.m.

01:56Let's see, wait a minute, I'm going up here, there is testimony.

01:59Who is speaking? Let's see.

02:01The lawyer Alberto Fernández.

02:03It had to do precisely with this arbitrariness that Dr. Colini passes.

02:09The famous decree.

02:10The decree is absolutely, legally impeccable, it is legitimate,

02:15it is even sustained in the framework of an administrative decision

02:19at the headquarters of the Administrative Court of Appeal.

02:23So there is no discussion about the decree.

02:25The decree in no way, if you allow me, if you allow me,

02:30if you allow me, I will explain the following.

02:33The objective of the decree was related precisely

02:37to shorten the characterization.

02:40Well, the proposal of the decree, which is also a decree

02:43that already had its antecedents in other years,

02:46in 2012, regarding IPF, regarding other bodies,

02:50had to do precisely with limiting the possibility

02:53that the currencies would go abroad.

02:55So you are saying that the decree did not enable

02:57the entry into play of the brokers?

02:59In no way.

03:00The whole issue of third-party ownership is absolutely far from the decree.

03:03If one reads the decree with exactitude, it is a little bit the...

03:06It is not stated in any way.

03:08At least, let's say, first and foremost,

03:11to also explain to you, this is the declaration,

03:14it is a very long declaration, where Dr. Alberto Fernández,

03:17from his technical role as ex-president of the nation,

03:20explained with certainty how it means,

03:23and what the processes regarding the insurance mean.

03:26And in that sense, he warned that in no way

03:29the decree enabled any kind of mediation.

03:32So...

03:33He did not steal from the State, but he benefited the State,

03:36according to the decree that you present.

03:38The imputation does not speak of theft, so please,

03:40technically, technically, it would be good that...

03:43It would be good, it would be good that the journalists,

03:46first of all, to ask questions to the defense,

03:49to internalize themselves, to know with exactitude what is being done.

03:52There is a so-called inquiry,

03:55there is a so-called inquiry that was raised by nullity.

03:58That nullity was rejected and eliminated,

04:01and that is why it generated that this act of inquiry

04:04will also be null in instances of...

04:07Doctor, I have a question, but it has to do with the communal sense.

04:11People think that the secretary of Alberto Fernández Privado

04:14was there, and the secretary's husband

04:17is one of the beneficiaries with this decree,

04:20or with the entry into play of the brokers.

04:23So that's when one starts to think...

04:26Martín Sosa is someone historically recognized,

04:29not for this decree, but at the national and world level,

04:32for being precisely a broker of insurance.

04:35So, to think that there could be some connivance

04:39is absolutely unfounded, false and arbitrary.

04:42Alberto Fernández never benefited anyone,

04:46first and foremost because the decree

04:49excluded the possibility of intermediation.

04:52The problem is that no one has read the decree.

04:55So, I invite you to read the decree

04:58and to look at it with exactitude,

05:01what are the articles in which...

05:04We believe that, and this is what Dr. Alberto Fernández said,

05:07this has to do with a political direction,

05:10a political decision was put in play,

05:13which is not judicial, as Dr. Alberto Fernández also said,

05:16and he is asking Dr. Ercolini

05:19that, precisely because he has been refused,

05:22and there are reasons that have not even been confirmed,

05:25because there are very strong reasons for refusal

05:28that are exposed in the decree,

05:31and I am going to give you, in a few minutes,

05:34I am also going to give you the indictment

05:37and the index where we explain with exactitude

05:40each of the steps that were taken.

05:43Does Dr. Alberto Fernández feel persecuted by Ercolini?

05:46It is not a question of persecuting or not persecuting,

05:49it is a question of feeling that he is not before an impartial judge.

05:52And so he said, that is why the beginning of the declaration was tense,

05:55because, of course, Dr. Alberto Fernández

05:58does not guarantee security and tranquility

06:01for all citizens when they face a judicial cause.

06:04All officials suspected of corruption always say the same thing,

06:07that they are political decisions that are not judicial.

06:10First and foremost, I am not going to be a spokesperson for anyone else.

06:13In this case, I thank you very much for your presence.

06:16I am going to continue my work, I have to continue,

06:19I have to meet again with Dr. Alberto.

06:22No, no, he only answered questions about the defense.

06:25There was an interesting situation,

06:28he made a proposal for us to show him some chats,

06:31he accessed the defense, we read it,

06:34and he was able to express himself.

06:37So it was an audience with a lot of respect, of course,

06:40but with this own tension, as I was saying,

06:43of a person, of a citizen, former president of the nation,

06:46who looks absolutely insecure

06:49in front of a judge who has been rejected,

06:52whose rejections and reasons are very strong.

06:55He mentioned some, and here they are in writing.

06:58Thank you very much, thank you very much.

07:01We are going to appeal, we are going to appeal all the rejections,

07:04they are going to be appealed, we have a victory tomorrow Thursday,

07:07so that is not going to stay firm.

07:10So he did not keep any weight of the state.

07:13Of course there is no discussion

07:16that there is some kind of deviation, there is no deviation,

07:19and also he is the former president of the nation,

07:22whose origin of the decree

07:25was related to other bodies.

07:28There is a project of Mr. Pagliano,

07:31and so there is a chat that identifies this,

07:34which generated, let's say, an administrative circuit

07:37so that the decree would finally come to light.

07:40And the decree, I insist, does not admit any mediation.

07:43Thank you very much.

07:46Well, Dr. Mariana Barbita is still talking,

07:49she is going to finish declaring Alberto Fernández.

07:52He already left, he showed his cell phone to Luciana Arias.

07:55Fernández never, never benefited anyone.

07:58Here what was talked about was obviously an influence trafficking.

08:01In a line, I close this and come back with Miriam.

08:04Cata, go ahead.

08:07Well, let's see, the important thing that Alberto Fernández's lawyer just said

08:10is that he did not declare, but that he answered questions

08:13from the judge and the prosecutor who were there.

08:16He was quite angry with the journalists, the truth is unnecessary,

08:19when they asked him some questions, saying,

08:22you do not inform us well of the case file,

08:25because the biggest argument that the ex-president and the lawyer have,

08:28which the judge and the prosecutor do not consider that this is so,

08:31is that it is a crazy accusation,

08:34that Alberto Fernández never favored anyone,

08:37that this accusation is glued to him in the case of insurance.

08:40However, the judge and the prosecutor consider that there is a lot of evidence,

08:43they call it an investigation, in this case that has just ended,

08:46against him to move forward and we have to see now what happens

08:49after this, if a new trial comes,

08:52there are a few days for the judge to resolve what he is going to do with Alberto Fernández.

08:56But basically, the lawyer said that he defended himself

08:59only by presenting the writing, answering questions

09:02and denying all the accusations.

09:05Let's remember something that, let's see, Hector Martínez Sosa,

09:08of whom we are talking,

09:11is the secretary's husband, a man linked to insurance,

09:14a man who has had...

09:15A friend, Alberto.

09:16Yes, I know him.

09:18And he has also had gifts from one side to the other,

09:22from Alberto Fernández to him and him to Alberto Fernández,

09:25very expensive gifts, very expensive watches,

09:28which have obviously been incorporated in the cause,

09:31and a phone, and in addition to the findings,

09:34a seizure of the cell phone, for example,

09:37of María Cantero, the secretary of Alberto Fernández,

09:40and the husband of Hector, wife of Hector Martínez Sosa,

09:43from which was extracted what was later guessed

09:47in the Fabiola Yañez case against Alberto Fernández.

09:50Of course, exactly.

09:51This was the tip, right?

09:53The tip that...

09:54The complaint of Fabiola for gender violence,

09:56for these chats that there were between María Cantero and the secretary of Alberto.

10:00Let's remember that María Cantero, this is very important,

10:03was part of that iron triangle

10:06that they had put to take care of, in quotation marks,

10:09or to imprison, others say, Fabiola Yañez.

10:12From that arises the complaint for gender violence.

10:16When this cause was being investigated,

10:19these chat controversies appear,

10:21where it is presumed that Fabiola threw that tip to María Cantero

10:27to see if someone could protect her against these alleged beatings.

10:31Which she didn't do.

10:32Which she didn't do.

10:33But it speaks of the degree of closeness of this family with Alberto Fernández.

10:37That's why it's so important and that's why there are so many others.

10:40And a cause, that of the insurance companies,

10:42in which there was a direction,

10:45because many of the ministers who showed themselves

10:49not permeable to this possibility,

10:54I think one of them was Agustín Rossi,

10:56within the chats that there were between them,

10:59one of them was, let me talk to him,

11:01to convince him to take the insurance for the ministry that was or had his position.

11:06Well, I'm going to go in a minute, I'm going to come back if necessary.

11:10I'm going with Fabián Rubino on the phone.

11:13Fabi, how are you? How are you? Where are you? Tell us.

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