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Spurs boss Ange Postecoglou says "You can't fast track experience and maturity, these things need time"   29/10/2024  Tottenham Hotspurs Training Ground, London, UK

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00:00and sort of, you know, the oscillations that people kind of just do well or do badly in certain games.

00:07When you look down the road, you sort of ask them,

00:10because he often talks about the support he got in quite difficult times early on,

00:14and kind of sticks his foot in to see what they do with people like that.

00:17Back to him, do you sense really that there's that kind of,

00:21have people, not necessarily in the club, but around the club,

00:24appreciate that you actually have to be back for a much longer period for that,

00:29and whether that can be delivered or not,

00:31and then down the line where he is now, where he loses it

00:35so people don't want to freak out in the same way?

00:40Yeah, again, I think you need to separate kind of the emotion of, you know,

00:46what people feel or the way people respond externally.

00:51But, you know, like I said before, you need to be clear in what your objective is

00:57and stick to that process.

01:04I mean, if anyone can show me where things can turn around in 15 months or in two years,

01:11any club, apart from maybe City where it took Pep a year,

01:17which is like an eternity to be fair for Pep,

01:21it doesn't exist.

01:22So there is a formula there, you know, and if you want to look at recent history,

01:25there's Liverpool, there's Arsenal, there are plenty of that.

01:29And there's plenty of others who have not stuck to a process,

01:32big clubs and small clubs, and haven't got any progress.

01:35So there's evidence on both sides, but it's not easy, you know.

01:40It's because, like I said, invariably scrutiny comes

01:45and criticism comes when things don't run smoothly

01:48because people want them to run smoothly.

01:50So how you react through that process is really important.

01:53So all I can do is, you know, like I said,

01:57stay really clear-headed about what my role in that is

02:03and, you know, the club to stay aligned with that.

02:08And that's what I feel.

02:09You know, we're kind of aligned in what we're trying to achieve here

02:12and we know it's not going to be easy.

02:13That does not mean, though, that this is going to take five years.

02:16I'm not saying that, but you can't fast-track experience.

02:20You can't fast-track maturity.

02:24All these things need time and you've just got to stay true.

02:32And like I said, you can't at the same time,

02:35you can't just, there's something going on with me,

02:37I feel like I'm mechoing.

02:40You can't do that with just cheerleading either.

02:45You can't expect that everyone's going to say,

02:47oh, it's okay, you're lost, you know, because you're on this path.

02:52That's not healthy either.

02:55You need the criticism, you need the scrutiny from outside

03:00and then how you deal with it is much more important

03:03than trying to alleviate it, you know, how you deal with it.

03:07Maybe it's valid criticism, okay,

03:09so introspectively you're looking at is there something there.

03:14But whether it's valid or not valid,

03:16if you just jump at the first time because you're going,

03:19oh my God, if we lose again they're going to come for us,

03:22then there isn't really a process.

03:24All you're trying to do is create some sort of utopia

03:28that doesn't exist in football.

03:30So this is part of the process.

03:32I keep saying I enjoy this bit because this is the hard bit

03:34and it has to be a hard bit.

03:36Every story has its struggle.

03:38Now, how far that struggle is or how much that struggle is,

03:42no-one knows.

03:43I don't know, no-one knows.

03:45But you get through it and then you'll reap the rewards.

03:50But, you know, how you deal with this process

03:55is critical to getting those rewards

03:58because, like I said, there's evidence on both sides pretty clear

04:02that, you know, you can have sustained success going a certain way

04:08or you can chase success going another way.

04:12And there's pretty clear results about which approach works better.

04:16How do you sort of deal with it?

04:19Because you did it differently,

04:20your background is different sorts of clubs,

04:22so this is different to Celtic.

04:25Are they constants in the background?

04:27Yeah, yeah.

04:29Yeah, there are and, like I said, it's alignment with key people

04:33who know every step of the way

04:35because, you know, I'm not doing this on my own.

04:39Every step is kind of discussed.

04:42We know where we're at.

04:45I think I said on the weekend we're struggling in difficult moments

04:52because we lack some maturity, leadership.

04:54Now, there's two ways of dealing with that.

04:56You can either go and buy it, acquire it,

04:58or you can wait for it to develop within your own group.

05:02We've gone down this way

05:03because I think that's the better way for me.

05:08But with that process, it takes time and experience.

05:12You've got to go through tough times.

05:13I can't artificially create tough times for the guys

05:16to see how the guys respond.

05:18They have to come at us, and it's not nice and it's not pleasant

05:21and no one enjoys it.

05:22I certainly don't, but it's necessary.

05:25So how do people react after a loss?

05:27How do people react if they haven't had, you know,

05:29we haven't had the right reaction?

05:32And then you get growth.

05:33I'm so optimistic about this playing group.

05:36I think there's such a high ceiling with this group of players.

05:40The more we get exposed to difficult times,

05:42the more I believe that that ceiling gets higher.

05:48So we've just got to stay, from my perspective, how I deal with it

05:51is I just keep clear markers that we kind of look for

05:56to charter our progress and focus on that.

06:01And as I said, don't be afraid of criticism

06:06or scrutiny coming your way.

06:08It's healthy.

06:09It's good because that shows me how people react.

06:15Are you expecting to play a bunch of kids in the City's team tomorrow?

06:22Tomorrow, do you think there's something else going on in the family?

06:25Look, I don't know, but I think if you look at sort of,

06:31Pep in this competition, he's always pretty heavily rotated

06:36for his whole time there.

06:37I think they won four in a row, didn't they, Carabao Cups?

06:41He does seem to be suggesting there's going to be more rotation this time.

06:45Can you just say that?

06:46No, no, but he's not playing his kids.

06:50And they disrespect Pep's kids, but they're good players if they're at City.

06:56I mean, they've got a pretty good program there.

06:58They invest a lot.

07:00Don't look at the ones who are just playing at City.

07:02Look at some of the ones who are playing around.

07:04I think Pedro was part of that at one stage.

07:06So if you're part of the City infrastructure, you're a good player.

07:12We're expecting a tough game, and that's what we want.

07:15But irrespective of who they put out, we want to win tomorrow.

07:18We want to stay in this competition.

07:20We want to put in a strong performance.

07:21We're at home.

07:23And we're playing City, which we expect to be a tough game.

07:27I was going to ask, if all you're going to do is favourites,

07:30is that what's happening right now?

07:31Or do you feel like that brings in pressure?

07:34No, it doesn't really matter.

07:35I mean, it's really irrelevant whether we're favourites, underdogs,

07:38whatever it is.

07:40In Cup competitions, that's the beauty of them,

07:46that irrespective whether you're a favourite or underdog,

07:49it doesn't really matter.

07:50It's about performing on the day.

07:52You always say that you're a winner in the World Cup,

07:55but you never win every game.

07:58The argument's been made in the past.

08:00If you get the trophy like they said,

08:02you can help create success elsewhere,

08:05because it gets voted on as well.

08:07But you also say that you want to see progress

08:11over the whole course of the FA Cup season.

08:14Can those two things go hand-in-hand,

08:16or is one more important than the other?

08:22Look, in my mind, I think they go hand-in-hand,

08:26but I still feel progress in the league is a better indicator.

08:34Because I just feel then you know that you're putting yourself

08:37in a position every year to win Cup competitions,

08:40or compete in every competition.

08:42Because like I said, that's the only thing you can strive for.

08:45You can't guarantee success.

08:47No-one can.

08:48It doesn't matter how much money you spend,

08:49it doesn't matter who you are.

08:50You can't guarantee it.

08:51But you can put yourself in a position.

08:53So I think you do that.

08:54If you're strong in the league on a consistent basis,

08:58I think by extension you should be strong in all these Cup competitions.

09:02Because I always say Cup competitions, not GAC competitions,

09:04by their nature can be pretty tricky anyway.

09:10So I think that's still where I think our most meaningful progress lies.

09:19Winning a competition, is it positive?

09:22Absolutely.

09:23Our supporters will love it.

09:25It's great for the club.

09:26Yes, you get that winning feeling too.

09:31But as I was saying before, it ain't a pain to see it for everything, obviously.

09:41Do you remember any of the progress you've had over the years?

09:43Well, I mean, I don't.

09:46Who knows?

09:47I just don't.

09:48I just don't know in today's world.

09:49Because like I said, I've got a manager who won two in the last two years

09:52that's just got the sack.

09:54So like I said, everyone tells me just win a trophy and you'll be fine.

09:58I don't think so.

10:00I think the measures these days are constantly shifting

10:05and there will always be something that people seek to be better.

10:09What's more important for me, like I said, is us getting to a space

10:13where we're consistently challenging for all honours.

10:16And if we're there in that space, like the big clubs are,

10:22and where we should be, then I think the rest will take care of itself.

10:27Okay, thank you very much.

10:29Good luck tomorrow.

10:30Thanks.

You can't fast track experience and maturity, these things need time - Ange

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