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00:00Will the Patriots be sellers at the deadline?

00:03Are they already sellers at the deadline? I mean they've traded their two best pass rushers

00:09Maybe I don't know you can maybe make an argument for Dietrich Weiser Keon white as being one of the other ones

00:13But in terms of you know with cache a judan beginning of the year

00:18Traded him for a third round pick because he was being disruptive

00:21I think that was as much a part of it as anything else and now Josh who shea who has

00:26Just this one year, so he's a rental in Kansas City. He didn't give up a lot to get him a sixth round pick

00:31It's a little bit of draft capital

00:33and I think that in general the Patriots right now don't have a lot of really great options and

00:38Guys that they can dangle out there for big returns

00:41I just sort of think this is it you want to get some addition by subtraction

00:44Maybe in that wide receiver room I could listen to that

00:47We know that Elliot Wolfe said that this is not going to be a tank job

00:51But it seems like they're already beginning their their fire sales what it looks like anyway

00:56There's no other reason to trade Josh who shea is there?

00:59Well, I mean he hasn't really been productive

01:02So if somebody was gonna give me something for something that hasn't really been productive

01:06I mean you can make an argument

01:08But on a team that has limited pass rush to start with and as you said

01:13Traded their Pro Bowl pass rusher before the year started if the Patriots were six and two they wouldn't have traded Josh who shea yesterday

01:19I don't think probably not I mean if they were six and two it wouldn't be because of him

01:24No, I'd agree with that too, but I don't know they wouldn't be peeling off pieces

01:28I mean he had as everybody points out he not only did he have a half a season a couple years ago

01:33He had like a half of a half a season. It was like a little game stretch where he rode judan's coattails

01:38No, the only question I have here is

01:42Elliot Wolfe's comments that you just alluded to like we would never tank that is the most ridiculous thing

01:48I've ever heard it and now all I hear from reports from Diana Rossini and our buddy Mike Giardi

01:55Patriots have made it clear that they are ready to sell they are open for business. They you already trade who shea

02:02Devon Godchow, he's on the block Kendrick Bourne. He's on the block

02:06I haven't heard any reports of Jonathan Jones

02:10But we've speculated that he could be a guy that could be on the block and he dread we addressed it with him yesterday

02:15And he said, you know people have asked me about it

02:17But I don't know anything and I want to stay here

02:19So we'll see but I just don't see how you can be so I don't care if they trade people

02:24I just want to be clear about that. I would probably be trading people

02:27I would probably be opening up opportunities for every young player to play

02:31because the reality is

02:33Devon Godchow who for some reason you gave a contract to and

02:37Kendrick Bourne who you also gave a contract to which is weird that you give contracts to him in the offseason

02:42Then you're looking to unload them a few months later weird, but they're not part of

02:47A the long-term future, but really the foundation

02:50I don't really see a where at best Kendrick Bourne is a role player. We did this whole exercise. Yeah, there's only a couple

02:56There's like three guys their foundational players on this as long as you're not men none of them are over 25 really gone

03:02So may bar more as long as those names aren't in the mix, then you're not trading anything

03:07That's really a part of the foundational future. Yeah, nothing that's nailed down. So Elliot Wolfe trade away except

03:14You

03:15Stink a little bit because you said you would never tank and if you trade away your best talent

03:20You're taking it. You can call it. Whatever you want to call it. Mm-hmm, but it's tanking

03:23You're not trying to win football games. You're not improving your roster. You're

03:28Lessening your roster like you you aren't

03:31focused on winning football games in a week where

03:34You finally won a football game and it's nice that you want a football game and everybody's telling me they loved it

03:4071% of Patriots fans can't be wrong. So that more than that like 85% really if we're being honest here

03:45And if we're being honest, they can be wrong and they definitely can as a group

03:48They're often wrong. You people are wrong a lot. I have to work with Fitzy all the time

03:52He is one of the stronger

03:54members of your group and he is wrong all of the time just like when he said a couple years ago that it was gonna

03:59Be the greatest draft class ever because they all contributed in one game and they all stink or aren't even here anymore

04:05But how can you get on your high horse what eight weeks ago nine weeks ago, whatever it is high horse

04:11I would never tank we would never do that. We're not about that easy to say when you're everybody's oh, no

04:16You know, it's easy to say before the season starts

04:18It's a little tougher when you're two and six, by the way, that brings us to today's edition of the sniff test

04:24It's the sniff test with our canned and hard

04:29On

04:30Weei, so Elliot Wolfe made a whole big show out of not wanting to tank

04:35We wouldn't disrespect the game in that way. We'd never do that

04:38How dare you even ask that and now here they are

04:41Trading Josh who Shay who again that was not doing much for this team, and I don't think is anybody that we're gonna dearly miss

04:47But he's one of your best rushers one of your best pass rushers

04:49And I also think he's gonna go to Kansas City and thrive there just probably you know

04:53Like why wouldn't he and it doesn't mean he's good or better. It just means he went to an environment. That was

04:58more

04:59from

05:00Forgiving of his weaknesses or or maximizing of his strengths, right? Okay now

05:04Here's the question that passes the sniff test or doesn't pass the sniff test

05:07Can you trade off pieces would not have it be tanking like is that are those two things?

05:12Interlocked like if you if you start selling off pieces like Carolina selling off pieces. They're tanking

05:18We all know that is there a way the Patriots can do that

05:20They can make trades or get rid of some guys and have it not look like they're taking absolutely if you trade KJ Osborne

05:25You're not tanking agreed. I think you're just trying to get rid of him. It hasn't worked

05:28It's bad, but if you trade if you trade Jones and Bourne and Josh even just Jones about to bond gotcha

05:35Yeah, like I know you're a soft football team that doesn't stop the run

05:39But he is the guy that everybody tells me is the best run stuffer in the middle of it Bill Belichick told me he's one

05:43Of the best defensive tackles in football you told me you liked him enough to resign him in the offseason and give him some more

05:47Guaranteed money after he pouted and said he needed more guaranteed money at his age, and now you're gonna trade him off

05:53That's tanking that's not trying to win

05:55That's not trying to make your team better now the only counter argument on a guy like Godshaw

06:01Which I don't think really exists with the other guys is do you not like that?

06:04He's talking too much

06:05Is he a detriment to the culture because he tells Jones and Keefe that guys are what we playing selfish

06:12I think was the first phrase he used a few weeks ago things of that nature tough sell

06:16But if you really had a good PR group coach Stacy could probably spin it in a certain direction

06:22But are you gonna tell me that there's any world where Jonathan Jones or Kendrick Bourne?

06:26I mean, I guess Kendrick Bourne brought guys need to eat better, but I think he was trying to be a leader

06:30I know he was trying to be productive even if it didn't necessarily play out and then he dropped every single ball that he saw

06:35Correct on Sunday, so I just I don't know how you can trade those guys and think it passes the sniff test

06:42And again, it's only in relation to your own words

06:45I I don't care if the Panthers are selling off. They should they effed up their rebuild

06:50They need to start over you have an opportunity to bring in assets that could help you now

06:56You're not gonna get a ton. They're all low-level assets

06:59You're getting day three picks for all of these guys and they already have a lot of day three pit

07:03They have like four or five seventh round picks already, and I think they have like two sixes

07:06So yeah, they have at the back end. Anyway, they already have a lot of that

07:11I don't know how much more that they need necessarily if you want to try and turn

07:14You know a bunch of them two sixes and a seven or three sevens and a six into a five or something

07:19I don't know. You can try that. You just said a lot of numbers. I know I'm just saying three sevens in a six into

07:23A five. Well, what are you gonna do drag? It makes five seven round draft picks

07:27Like what's the point of that? You know, you already have a team with a bunch of lousy players on it

07:31Yeah, you know Tom Brady was 199th pick in the draft. Sure

07:34he was you can find talent down there not in the seventh row now, well sort of because what he was a

07:39Compensatory pick in the six and not in the say this is we don't need to have this argument

07:44We'll save this argument for next spring we will have it because I have a

07:49Hour in the in the future. Yes. It's a future bitching our topic how those are handled in the NFL

07:54But no, I don't think it passes the sniff test Elliot Wolfe and what bothers me a little bit

07:58Isn't the individual trades or even the idea of individual trades?

08:02Diana, Rossini Mike Giardi, they're all reporting. We are open for business. Yep fire sale

08:08It all must go Sunday Sunday Sunday like

08:12Wait, so are you trying to win football games?

08:14Are you just tearing it down and it feels like a tear down?

08:17It feels like you are tanking and people get all worked up over that word

08:22I know

08:22Late in the Belichick era people got real you'll find it surprising that Mike Lombardi got really defensive when people talk

08:28Yeah, I like Lombardi. Yes, didn't yes

08:30Take kindly to that type of thought would never do that the respect of the game like these guys

08:35Do what's in the best interest of the football team if you think it's in the best interest of the football team Elliot Wolfe?

08:40to have

08:4110 draft picks 11 draft picks 12 draft picks whether you're gonna make them or whether you're gonna package them like you said trade up

08:48If that's what the best interest of the football team is then do it

08:52Just don't tell me you would never do that because it's disrespectful

08:55and then go out there and do it because you know what that sounds a lot like

08:58Sounds a lot like the last 10 months of Patriots football where they say one thing do another then backtrack and tell you why what?

09:04They said wasn't really what they said, but what they did was kind of what they did

09:08Yeah, that kind of annoys me

09:09I know and it's been going on all year and it seems like something that they haven't quite dug their way out of yet it

09:14Keeps happening and this is going to be another example of that when they start trading off their players

09:17Which I still think is definitely gonna happen here in the next couple of days

09:216 1 7 7 7 9 7 93 7 is the phone number Jacoby Brissett with us yesterday?

09:26Talked about his status as the starter says he wasn't sure about that yet that he'll know when we know

09:31I don't think that you're gonna see Drake May this weekend

09:34I think that he's probably out this weekend based on the protocol and how it's gone for other players that have been in it

09:39Usually you don't see him back for a week probably going to be another week of Brissett against another beatable team here in the Tennessee

09:45Titans

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