Panayam kay PAOCC spokesperson Winston Casio kaugnay ng patuloy na operasyon ng higit 100 POGO hub sa bansa
Panayam kay PAOCC spokesperson Winston Casio kaugnay ng patuloy na operasyon ng higit 100 POGO hub sa bansa
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00:00A continuous operation of more than 100 POGO hubs in the country.
00:05We will talk with Dr. Winston Casio,
00:09the spokesperson of the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission or PAOC.
00:14Dr. Casio, good afternoon.
00:17Good afternoon to you, viewers and listeners.
00:21At present, several Philippine offshore gaming operators or POGO
00:26continue their operations despite the call to close them.
00:31What are the reasons behind this?
00:35Regarding the legalization of IGLs, Internet Gaming Licenses,
00:39if I'm not mistaken, they're down to 38 or 37.
00:42And they really are winding down.
00:44We don't have a problem with the legalization
00:48because they're complying with the requirements of PAGCOR and the President
00:52to really stop all their operations by the end of the year.
00:55Now, our real problem is the illegal from the get-go.
01:00From the start, they're already illegal and underground.
01:04That's our problem now because we're chasing them all over the country.
01:09I could say that they are between 50 to 100.
01:14Illegals might exceed 100.
01:16In the past, there were thousands of employees
01:20who disintegrated into smaller units
01:24that's why there are more of them.
01:26Sir, what are the findings of the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission
01:31regarding the illegal POGOs that continue their operations?
01:34And where will they go?
01:39The reports of the illegals are all over the country.
01:42They're in Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao.
01:44That's the problem.
01:45It's not just POGOs who work here.
01:47This is a whole-of-government approach.
01:49We need the help of the other agencies of the Executive Branch
01:54together with the help of the LGU and the private sector.
01:57In fact, we're here in Binan
02:00to assist the local government unit of the city of Binan.
02:04We inspected a POGO that we know has scamming activities.
02:09All we need is the proactive assistance of the different agencies of the Executive Branch.
02:17The different agencies of the Executive Branch together with the LGU.
02:20If we work together, we can do this.
02:24For our countrymen to understand better,
02:28what is the role of PAG-COR in the closure of illegal POGO hubs in our country?
02:33And what can PAG-COR say about the ongoing operations of these POGO hubs?
02:39Well, with regards to that question, ma'am,
02:41I guess you better address that question to PAG-COR
02:44because I could not possibly speak for PAG-COR because I am not a PAG-COR official.
02:48I am a POGO official, ma'am.
02:50So I apologize for that.
02:52Yes, sir. We understand.
02:54And since the deadline given by President Marcos Jr. is approaching
02:59for the total closure of POGO hubs in the country,
03:03what is the challenge that POGO is facing now regarding this directive?
03:09Well, the challenge is that there are a lot of people who are underground.
03:14There are a good number of them and we're having difficulty catching up.
03:20We would like to thank the LGUs and the different agencies of the Executive Branch for their assistance.
03:29That's why we are a bit more compact.
03:31But assuming that there are people left after December 31,
03:36the mandate of our Task Force will continue.
03:40We are part of the Task Force POGO Closure led by Secretary of Justice Remolia.
03:46The Vice-Chair is the Executive Director of PAOC, Secretary Gilbert Cruz.
03:51So we will continue.
03:52Assuming that there are people left beyond December,
03:55we will still go after them and close them down.
03:57Sir, as of now, what support do you and the law enforcement agencies need
04:03for the effective closure of POGO hubs in the country?
04:08We need the help of the community.
04:10Because the community is the eyes and ears of our government and our country.
04:16So if they see illegal activities, we need their help to be able to report it to the LGUs,
04:21to their police officers, to their municipal and city police stations,
04:26and to us, to PAOC, to PNP, NBI, CID, whatever.
04:30At the end of the day, this has to be a whole-of-government fight.
04:33Because if it's just PAOC, PNP, or NBI, they won't be able to handle this big problem.
04:40Sir, what is the update on the last Chinese nationals in Paracale, Camarines Norte?
04:47The last ones in Paracale were inquested last night.
04:51Their immigration inquest is over.
04:54What we are waiting for is the criminal inquest or violation of the Philippine Mining Act.
04:59And other violations of our laws with regards to environmental protection.
05:05Sir, do you see any similarities between the arrested in Paracale and the illegal POGOs?
05:12No, definitely not.
05:14What we caught in Paracale were guerrilla mining operations.
05:17This is the second operation we did against illegal mining run by the Chinese.
05:24We have a lot of reports of illegal mining operations all over the country as the day progresses.
05:34Sir, we have a question here from Louisa Erispe of PTV.
05:38It is mentioned that there are four other POGOs in the country.
05:45Do we have a lead if these POGOs are in the Philippines and are authorities looking for them?
05:52Yes, we have.
05:54Most of them are Chinese and we've got a few who are Malaysian, Malaysian-Chinese.
06:02We have a lead and we are currently monitoring them.
06:05We are just developing enough cases to apply for search warrants and mission orders so we can catch them.
06:15In the next few days or weeks, we might be able to catch all of them.
06:20Next question from Louisa Erispe.
06:22Is it possible that these financiers are also part of the POGOs who are funding?
06:30Yes, yes. They are really POGOs and junket financiers.
06:34Our evidence against them is solid because we have been monitoring them for a long time.
06:40I'm sure it's not just four of them. There are others who are with them.
06:44But so far, we have been monitoring four of them.
06:48One more question from PTV.
06:51Earlier, you were inspecting the IGL in Binan, Laguna.
06:56What happened to the operation?
06:58We are here now. We are inspecting the new wave technologies.
07:05This is the IGL that we caught last time, Lin Shun Han.
07:12When we arrived here, all the possible evidence, including the BPLO of Binan and the POGOs,
07:22they conducted a regulatory visit and an inspection visit.
07:27We were just with them. We just came here.
07:34What's saddening is when we looked at the areas, all the computers and hard drives are gone.
07:41It means that the evidence of their illegal activities is gone and we can't get anything.
07:50Okay, sir. Message to our countrymen, especially to the POGOs who are still involved.
07:58To the POGOs, wherever you are, we will catch you.
08:01Unfortunately, they don't understand because they are insects.
08:05But with regards to the community, if you see activities like this, many foreign nationals, not tourists,
08:15inform your local government units, PNP and NBI.
08:22To the owners of properties, apartments, condos, buildings, commercial facilities and so on,
08:29please make sure that you do your due diligence.
08:32If we were able to prove that you allowed your facilities to be used for illegal activities,
08:38we will lock you up. We will file a civil forfeiture to get your properties from the government.
08:45All right. Sir, I have a follow-up question.
08:48How is the news that the Filipinos are taking over the POGOs?
08:52Do you have a message for them?
08:55It is necessary for the POGOs. There are Filipinos who are taking over some scanning operations.
09:00We have seen some small groups that are operated by NBI, ACG, CIDG.
09:09We have been waiting for a long time.
09:11Maybe the time has come for them to become too smart.
09:14Even the trickery, they can take over from the Chinese.
09:19Okay. Thank you very much for your time.
09:21Dr. Winston Casio will now speak on behalf of the Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Commission.