'He's full of it': Governor fires back at Trump after his Detroit remark

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00:00This morning, Donald Trump is heading to Aurora, Colorado.

00:03You might ask, why is he going to a pretty safely blue state?

00:06Well, CNN's Kristen Holmes is there, I imagine, with an answer.

00:10Good morning, Kristen.

00:13Good morning, John.

00:14Well, that's right.

00:15And it's not just the fact he's going to be in Aurora, Colorado tomorrow.

00:18He's going to be in Coachella, California, also a solidly blue state.

00:21Now, the motive behind these trips is, of course, different.

00:25One, they do believe, they being Donald Trump's campaign,

00:28that when he does these kind of big campaign events in blue states,

00:32that it gets a lot of attention.

00:33But two, when he's here in Aurora, this is a chance for him

00:37to really amplify that rhetoric about migrants,

00:40particularly some of that false rhetoric.

00:42Remember, one of the things he's been saying for months

00:44particularly pertains to Aurora, Colorado,

00:47saying that he's been overtaken by Venezuelan gangs.

00:50We have heard pushback from the governor of the state,

00:52from the mayor of this city, saying that is not true.

00:55We've also heard blowback about his appearance here today.

00:59I did hear from one Democratic lawmaker who told me

01:02maybe it would be a good thing to shine light on the fact

01:04that this city is not overtaken by Venezuelan gangs.

01:08But one thing to keep in mind here is that this is coming on the heels

01:11of another visit in which Donald Trump upset city, local and state officials.

01:15That was yesterday when he insulted the city of Detroit while speaking in Detroit.

01:22We are a developing nation.

01:24Well, we're a developing nation too.

01:26Just take a look at Detroit.

01:30Detroit's a developing area a hell of a lot more than most places in China.

01:35The whole country is going to be like, you want to know the truth?

01:38It'll be like Detroit.

01:40Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she's your president.

01:46And Donald Trump has really been doubling down on this fear-based messaging,

01:50whether it's about the economy,

01:52which is part of what he was talking about in Detroit,

01:53or immigration here in Aurora, Colorado.

01:56And while, of course, we have reported that much of this rhetoric is not true,

02:01I will tell you that there are people who believe it.

02:03You can see that from the people standing behind me.

02:05There are hundreds of people in line for this rally in Aurora, Colorado.

02:09They believe this messaging and they believe that they will show up to vote in November.

02:14And his campaign is going to continue doubling down on this, again,

02:17fear-based messaging because of the fact that they see people turning out.

02:21They think it's going to help propel him possibly back to the White House in November.

02:26All right.

02:26Great to have you there, Kristen Holmes in Aurora.

02:28Thanks so much.

02:29Kate?

02:29All right.

02:30Joining us right now is the Democratic governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer.

02:35Governor, thank you for coming on.

02:36You had choice words for Donald Trump after he trashed Detroit while in Detroit.

02:43The thing that I wonder today is, why do you think he said it?

02:52I don't know because he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about

02:55on this issue or on many others, Kate.

02:58You don't come into Detroit and speak to the Detroit Economic Club

03:01and then denigrate the city of Detroit.

03:04It shows he's totally out of touch.

03:06Detroit's population is growing for the first time in decades.

03:09We hosted the biggest, best NFL draft the country's ever seen.

03:14The Lions and the Tigers are kicking, you know, behind.

03:19And we are seeing a resurgence in manufacturing, thanks to the Biden-Harris administration.

03:25So there's so much good stuff going on in Detroit.

03:28And so for Donald Trump to come in and crap all over the city shows he's out of touch,

03:33he's dangerous, and he's full of it.

03:36You wrote to Trump last night that the way you put it is,

03:40you better believe Detroiters won't forget this in November.

03:44If he is burning bridges with voters there and turning them off, as you say,

03:48why then is it still so tight in Michigan?

03:57I think like everywhere, right?

03:58We know that we've been a divided country.

04:00We know that his ugly and divisive rhetoric has taken a toll.

04:05And that has, you know, hardened people.

04:08And a lot of people are turning out because it's so toxic, thanks to Donald Trump.

04:13That's why our work is so important.

04:15We're kicking off our Blue Wall bus tour.

04:18Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania, Governor Evers, we're kicking it off on Monday.

04:26How Kamala Harris is going to focus on growing the middle class,

04:30cutting our costs, and delivering for people.

04:32But this is going to be a close election.

04:34Despite all his ugly rhetoric, his divisive rhetoric, and his insulting rhetoric,

04:39it's going to be a close election, and we're not taking anyone for granted.

04:42Detroit is one of the largest majority Black cities in the country.

04:45And one thing that Barack Obama's return to the campaign trail

04:49and his message to Black men voters while he was in Pittsburgh,

04:53is how Donald Trump has recently made inroads with Black male voters.

04:57That there is signs that Harris is having a tough time

05:01mobilizing what could be a very important demographic.

05:05What about Kamala Harris's pitch is falling short?

05:08So much so that they're sending Obama to reconnect and bridge the gap.

05:16Well, I think that there are a lot of people in our country who are struggling.

05:20They're struggling to make ends meet.

05:21They feel unheard.

05:22And because of that, they're either checking out or they're looking for change.

05:28Kamala Harris is the change we need.

05:30Kamala Harris is going to usher in a whole new moment in this country.

05:34I am proud to be a supporter and to be one of the campaign co-chairs.

05:38She's got a vision for America that includes everyone

05:41because she's lived lives like ours.

05:43She has had to work hourly jobs and take care of an elderly parent.

05:48Donald Trump doesn't get that.

05:49He's never sat with a parent who has to take chemotherapy

05:52and organize their pills for them.

05:54He's never changed diapers, Barack Obama said.

05:57I can't imagine he's ever done any of those things.

06:00But that's what lives of Americans are like.

06:02And that's why we need someone who gets us, who's going to fight for us.

06:04And that's Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

06:07You talk about Harris being change.

06:09The VP this week was on The View and asked and was asked

06:12how basically she would be the change,

06:14how a Harris presidency would be different from a Biden presidency.

06:17Let me play this.

06:20Would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?

06:26There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of

06:29and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.

06:36She later circled back and said the change would be

06:39different would be a Republican in her cabinet.

06:40But do you as a Democratic governor want Harris's presidency, if she wins,

06:48to look not a thing differently, to be exactly like a Biden presidency?

06:54I think the values are aligned, but obviously she's a different leader than the current president.

07:03You know, she's been a great partner to him,

07:06but she's got a different lived experience.

07:07She's got a different vision of what we need to accomplish and where our focus needs to be.

07:12I'm grateful that she is out there talking about

07:15care for people who are at home and in their later years.

07:19This is a fundamental integrity question.

07:21It's also about quality of life.

07:23But it's also about saving money for our country and for our people.

07:26So she's got a different lived experience.

07:28She's going to bring it to all things.

07:30And this is going to be a very different chapter in America if she becomes our next president.

07:36And that's why I'm excited.

07:37That's why I see a reflection of who we are,

07:40of the middle class, of people who work hard and do the best they can.

07:44They need a president who sees them, who has lived a life like theirs.

07:48And that's Kamala Harris, without a question.

07:51I think what you just said is exactly why so

07:53many Democrats were surprised with the answer that she gave initially on The View.

07:56Governor, it's very good to have you on.

07:58You have a very busy time ahead.

08:00Thank you very much.

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