"We are Ready to Sit with Establishment..." Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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"We are Ready to Sit with Establishment..." Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
"We are Ready to Sit with Establishment..." Rauf Hassan's Huge Statement
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00:00You said in our program that it would be wrong to say to the establishment that there is no discussion at all.
00:04In fact, there has been a breakthrough in the context of the day when the Jalsa was cancelled.
00:08Was it the date of 22nd August or was it 22nd August, the day of Islamabad?
00:11Yes, 22nd August.
00:12Then you said that in fact the next Jalsa's commitment was given to us by the establishment.
00:18On 8th September.
00:20On 8th September. Yes, that is also a fact.
00:22And then you said that now, responding to a question, you said that how can that Jalsa be held?
00:27We will be able to ascertain from that whether that commitment is honourable or not,
00:31or whether there is a breakthrough or not.
00:33Now that Jalsa has been held.
00:34Now what is your analysis?
00:35Is that commitment or that breakthrough from the establishment still there or did it reverse gear or did it go ahead?
00:41Look, the contact with the establishment is with the provincial government, KP.
00:46You know, there is a restive province, KP Wasim Sahib.
00:50And there, you know, intelligence agencies are involved.
00:55The army is involved because of, you know, various challenges, you know, that are faced in that province.
01:00So, there is a continuing engagement with them.
01:04How the Jalsa was held, frankly, its praise or allegations in that regard will come on the welfare government.
01:14That they had made the whole city a container.
01:18They had blocked 29 places.
01:20So, frankly, that was an issue of the district administration.
01:22We blame them.
01:24Our statements have also come in that regard.
01:26Now, we are dealing with the district administration in this regard.
01:32They have to give permission.
01:34Whether they give permission or not, or what they do, frankly,
01:36the same allegations will remain for that if they do not give us permission.
01:40As far as the contact with the establishment is concerned,
01:43I have repeatedly come to many programs and said that this is the policy of the PTI
01:49that we want to engage with the establishment.
01:52We want to engage with them even today.
01:54In fact, I gave statements one step ahead.
01:57And I am absolutely convinced that that statement is correct.
02:00That a dialogue between the PTI and the establishment has become essential for this state.
02:08And we should not delay in that.
02:10The establishment and the PTI should sit on a table and start talking.
02:16So that the problems of the country can be solved and the country can be moved forward.
02:21This is inevitable.
02:22This is bound to happen.
02:23If not today, it will happen tomorrow.
02:24If not tomorrow, it will happen the day after tomorrow.
02:25We are ready for this.
02:27And we are ready even today.
02:29We want to engage with them in every possible way.
02:31If I complete this sentence, it will be fine that it is the policy of the PTI
02:34that we want to engage with the establishment.
02:36We want to talk.
02:37And at least in today's date, it is their policy that we do not want to talk at all.
02:42I completely disagree with this latter part.
02:46I will not say that this is not their policy at all.
02:48They have engaged with the PTI.
02:50So why should I expect so much that they will engage again?
02:53Do they want to engage?
02:55When did they engage?
02:56For that, we will have to create an environment.
02:59For that, we will have to try.
03:01And we will have to try from there too.
03:03Create an environment so that both parties sit on the table and talk about the country.
03:08Talk about the state.
03:10Talk about moving forward.
03:12We have many challenges.
03:14When did they engage?
03:16There is a big wall in the way of solving those challenges.
03:21We will have to bring it down.
03:23What do you mean by saying that the 22nd Jalsa should not be held in Islamabad
03:25because religious communities are coming?
03:27What do you mean by engaging them?
03:29Look, they talked to us.
03:31We engaged with them.
03:33They are engaged after that too.
03:35I call it engagement.
03:37I do not want to come with any special praise of engagement.
03:39This is a natural process.
03:41The biggest political party in Pakistan,
03:43which is also governing in a province,
03:45should have a contact with the establishment.
03:47And those contacts should increase.
03:49And those contacts should be used for the betterment of the country.
03:53This is my intention.
03:55And I repeatedly express it.
03:57I used to do it before and I do it today.
03:59And I will continue to do it.
04:01The solution to the problems of this country is in the dialogue, Mr. Waseem Badani.
04:03When I have talked to you two or three times,
04:05I have told you in this regard.
04:07I have always considered your response to be positive in that regard.
04:12Dialogue is something that cannot be averted.
04:15We cannot avoid it.
04:17Ultimately, we have to sit at the table and talk.
04:19We have to move forward.
04:21We do not want to use guns against each other.
04:23We will try to avoid each other.
04:25We will have a session in which
04:27all the participants
04:29will discuss the party policy.
04:31We will talk about how to move forward
04:33when the country is stuck.
04:35We will talk about this.
04:37I am telling you on-area.
04:39Sir, let's conclude this conversation.
04:41You are saying that we have to improve the environment.
04:43We have to improve the environment.
04:45The statements coming from the jail
04:47can only improve the environment.
04:49Sometimes there is a tweet that
04:51Yaya Khan is part two.
04:53Sometimes there is a tweet that
04:55he is an architect of the London plan
04:57and is related to the army chief.
04:59How can he improve the environment?
05:01Have you ever seen the statements
05:03of the party chief,
05:05Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif,
05:07who is the Prime Minister of the party
05:09that is sitting in the government today?
05:11What did he say?
05:13In spite of that,
05:15within months,
05:17that party is sitting in the government.
05:19It has been two and a half years
05:21since it has been sitting in the government.
05:23A lot happens in political politics.
05:25We are the puppets of mistakes.
05:27We are not infallible.
05:29We all make mistakes.
05:31We make mistakes from time to time.
05:33But this does not mean
05:35that we cannot sit with each other
05:37or that we should not sit with each other.
05:40I am a firm believer.
05:42My political think tank
05:44conducts dialogues.
05:46I am a committed person.
05:48I teach.
05:50I am a senior fellow at King's College.
05:52My subject is
05:54peace and conflict resolution.
05:56I have a commitment
05:58that this country cannot move forward
06:00without peace.
06:02And peace will be established
06:04when the PTI is taken on board.
06:06Peace cannot be achieved
06:08without peace.
06:10Don't forget the fact
06:12that PTI is Pakistan's largest
06:14and most popular political party.
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06:46He has come to a very important position
06:48and he has a lot of responsibilities
06:50on his shoulders.
06:52I am sure he will try his best.