What is in the proposed constitutional amendments? Important details revealed

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00:00Yesterday we were very hopeful.

00:02What was the hope anyway?

00:04It was said that the government was hopeful

00:06that this table will be made, at the very least.

00:08And Maria was saying that this will not happen.

00:12So today, it did not happen.

00:14What are the chances today?

00:16And Mr. Sharmila was present with us.

00:18Very interestingly, she said that

00:20even we have not seen Musawwida yet.

00:22So then who has seen Musawwida?

00:24Thank you very much.

00:26Look, the world is based on hope

00:28and we should not give up hope.

00:32It is a very strange incident in Pakistan's parliamentary history

00:39that such a constitutional amendment

00:42which is taking a lot of time

00:44and no one has the Musawwida of that amendment yet.

00:48And yesterday you saw that 100%

00:50from the Law Ministers

00:52that I have also got that Musawwida.

00:54I don't know if they got it or not.

00:56Now you see on social media

00:58that there is so much debate on it

01:00which is obviously

01:02this is a Musawwida

01:04which the government has prepared.

01:06If all those

01:09are going to become a part of Pakistan's constitution

01:11then God knows.

01:13But tell me, Mr. Khawar,

01:14this is such a Musawwida

01:15in which the opposition members do not know,

01:17the government members do not know,

01:18Arkan does not know,

01:20the leadership does not know.

01:21Then after that, you know the legal fraternity

01:23that they are saying that we do not know.

01:25Then where is this fire coming from?

01:27Sir, I am saying that

01:29it is the responsibility of the government of the time.

01:31Because its proposer is the government.

01:34And the government has to get it passed.

01:36The government is sitting in the majority.

01:38And in the government,

01:40Mr. Sharmila was right

01:42that in the government,

01:44there is Zalawal Bhutto Zardari

01:46and Mr. Shalwa Sharif.

01:47And both of them, yesterday we were very confident

01:49that we will do it, there is no issue.

01:51The number game is in our hands.

01:53And that number game was going on at 11 in the morning,

01:55at 11 at night,

01:57then at 12 at night,

01:59then everyone had to go empty-handed.

02:01Look, I will come back to that question again.

02:03So far,

02:05no one knows what that Musawwida is.

02:07Yesterday, when it was asked

02:09that you give it,

02:11it was said that

02:13until the Kaveena does not commit

02:15a suicide on it,

02:17the Kaveena does not formally endorse it,

02:19before that, it cannot be made public.

02:21Again,

02:23it is very important

02:25for the government, for Pakistan,

02:27for the people of Pakistan,

02:29for the civil society,

02:31that whatever Musawwida it is,

02:33whatever you want to do in it,

02:35share it with the people.

02:37Share it with the people through the media.

02:39They also have an idea.

02:41Khawar, tell us one thing,

02:43yesterday everyone was very hopeful,

02:45Mr. Bilawal,

02:47his optics are very metal,

02:49he was coming with the language

02:51that the numbers are full,

02:53he was saying in the beginning,

02:55the sign of victory,

02:57coming out of Maulana's residence.

02:59But later, Khawaja Asif,

03:01who is talking,

03:03he said that

03:05Maulana Sahib did not agree

03:07with our proposal of reforms.

03:09Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidri,

03:11who is talking,

03:13when he was asked that

03:15it will take time,

03:17it will take time,

03:19it will take time.

03:21Look,

03:23I repeat my point again,

03:25that the reforms

03:27that have been made

03:29public on social media,

03:31or you are seeing

03:33on television screens,

03:35on the basis of the means

03:37that are being told that these are the reforms,

03:39they are such reforms

03:41that you need

03:43a lot of debate.

03:45It is not that you

03:47just shared it and then

03:49passed it.

03:51For example,

03:53there is a reform,

03:55Article 17 of the constitution.

03:57Article 17 of the constitution

03:59is about banning any political party.

04:01And the change that has been suggested

04:03in it is that

04:05instead of the Supreme Court of Pakistan,

04:07the Federal Constitutional Court

04:09has been replaced.

04:11This means that

04:13a new constitutional court will be formed.

04:15Now, how will the chief justice

04:17appoint the new constitutional court?

04:19The Prime Minister will nominate him.

04:21And after that, the chief justice

04:23will decide on his own.

04:25So first, a full court has to decide

04:27on banning any political party.

04:29Now, this constitutional court,

04:31these four, five...

04:33And you think that the name

04:35that the Prime Minister will appoint,

04:37that is, the Prime Minister will have the authority,

04:39and it is obvious that there will be a way

04:41that he will be able to work independently.

04:43Then the question arises,

04:45will it be parallel?

04:47If a decision is made in that constitutional court,

04:49will it be able to go to the Supreme Court

04:51or will it be seen in the same court?

04:53And if the five-member bench

04:55sees this decision of the same court,

04:57then where will the intracourt appeal

04:59or the Nazr-e-Sani appeal go?

05:01There are so many questions

05:03that need to be answered.

05:05You have explained all this

05:07very intelligently, Mr. Shetty.

05:09You have made it very clear.

05:11So in that,

05:13I don't know, there are dozens of questions.

05:15I have seen a lot of things

05:17on social media so far.

05:19Again,

05:21all this will continue

05:23until the government

05:25officially

05:27with its stamp,

05:29the Prime Minister,

05:31a draft,

05:33they will not make it public

05:35that this is the draft

05:37that we are taking to Parliament.

05:39So far,

05:41Is there any specific reason

05:43why not to make it public?

05:45It is a matter of intention.

05:47This is what the legal experts

05:49have told us yesterday.

05:51If your intention is clear,

05:53if you want to work with intention,

05:55then there is no problem in hiding it.

05:57Because again and again,

05:59everyone is saying,

06:01give us the draft,

06:03put it in front of us,

06:05so that we can tell you about it,

06:07share our opinion with you.

06:09This is our opinion on it.

06:11And Mr. Khawaja, one more thing

06:13is very important.

06:15You see that always,

06:17one thing is seen,

06:19especially when we talk about the draft,

06:21among which only a few are

06:23adorned with media and social media.

06:25Mr. Arshad Sharif also used to say

06:27that the devil lies in the details.

06:29It is very important to see the details

06:31that what else is being passed on

06:33because that is very important.

06:35So this will also be something to see.

06:37See, one important thing in this,

06:39suppose,

06:41the judges of the High Court

06:43will also have

06:45posting transfer

06:47within the High Court.

06:49Another very interesting

06:51suggestion in this is that

06:53only on the basis of a source report

06:55a judge will be removed

06:57from the High Court or Supreme Court.

06:59Now who will make

07:01the source report?

07:03How will it be based on vetting?

07:05Because first of all,

07:07Article 209,

07:09Supreme Judicial Council,

07:11it is very clear that

07:13a judge is accused,

07:15he is show-cuffed,

07:17he gets a chance,

07:19he can defend himself

07:21through independent lawyers,

07:23but here it is completely different.

07:25The right to bail

07:27is being terminated

07:29according to the suggestions

07:31that have come to us.

07:33And the most important question

07:35that you raised, Mr. Takri,

07:37is that when you make two courts,

07:39one opinion is that

07:41the Supreme Court of Pakistan

07:43or the Chief Justice of Pakistan

07:45that is present at the moment,

07:47or this position, will be terminated

07:49because all those things

07:51will go to the Federal Constitutional Court.

07:53So then what is the status

07:55of this Supreme Court?

07:57There are a lot of questions

07:59about that.

08:01Who will head the Law and Justice Commission?

08:03Who will look after the Supreme Judicial Council?

08:05There are so many things.

08:07Exactly.

08:09It has been said that

08:11the membership of the Supreme Judicial Council

08:13will be increased.

08:15So whatever it is,

08:17whatever the government wants to do,

08:19first put it in front,

08:21put it on the table,

08:23present it,

08:25and then

08:27We were seeing

08:29that even Mr. Waleed Iqbal is saying

08:31that he has not seen the Constitution,

08:33the opposition has not seen it,

08:35the government has not seen it,

08:37the people's party has not seen it,

08:39then who is left?

08:41Thank you so much.

08:43Let's hope that the Constitution

08:45will be seen and presented.

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