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00:00Viewers, let's move on to the next story.

00:02Yesterday, there was a clarification from Mr. Chief Justice.

00:07And I think that clarification was given by our program because this is what Hassan thinks.

00:14And he still thinks that whatever happens, Mr. Chief Justice will not take any extension.

00:22But Rana Sinawala said something the other day, let's listen to that first.

00:27And the announcement that came last night confirms what Rana Sinawala said.

00:57Last night, there was a clarification from Dr. Mushtaq, Secretary to the Chief Justice.

01:22He regretted that there was an off-the-racket discussion with the journalists.

01:26The journalists have misquoted me.

01:28The clarification is that I said that when the discussion was taking place,

01:32that if I am the only one to be given an extension or if only one person is to be given an extension,

01:38then that is not acceptable to me.

01:40The rest of the parliament can do whatever they want.

01:44Hassan, what does he think?

01:47Obviously, if the parliament gets an extension,

01:51they say that it is fixed, three years to no more.

01:53And if it is applicable with the current Chief Justice, then yes.

01:57The point was that the statement that Mr. Chief Justice gave,

02:01the people who were going to report, they also knew very well that the parliament

02:05is not under the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

02:09The Chief Justice cannot dictate to the parliament.

02:11The news was that...

02:13The news was that...

02:16Since you were covering at that time,

02:20he said that even if it happens, I will retire.

02:24I will go. I will take an extension.

02:26And this was the news.

02:28If I am given a fixed term,

02:30then I will not accept my extension or my fixed term of Chief Justice.

02:34But if the retirement age is increased in the judiciary of the entire country,

02:38and if the law is reformed,

02:40then the Chief Justice is not above the law of Pakistan.

02:44The Chief Justice of Pakistan cannot dictate to the parliament.

02:48It is the will of the parliament.

02:50Do you think that...

02:52Your news is that he is retiring on 23rd October.

02:54Yes, he is retiring.

02:56What is your assessment about this news?

02:58No, if he does not want to take it and does not want to give it,

03:02then what is so funny about it?

03:04What is so funny about it?

03:06What is so funny about it?

03:08This is not just a joke.

03:10This is not just a joke.

03:12If Fazl-ur-Rehman meets someone today,

03:14he will say that he does not want to do anything like this.

03:16Mr. Fazl-ur-Rehman,

03:18you can talk extensively about national interests.

03:20Today, Shahid Khakhan Abbasi also said that

03:24the solution to this problem can be found in one way only.

03:28That the Chief Justice should issue a press statement

03:32that I am retiring on 23rd October.

03:34Whatever reforms the government has to do,

03:36whatever matters have to be taken care of,

03:38whatever matters have to be taken care of,

03:40they should be taken care of.

03:42I do not think this will happen.

03:44But the clarification that has come,

03:46Hassan is right that it will be applicable to everyone.

03:48But Hassan is adamant that he is retiring on 23rd October.

03:50I am saying that the numbers are not complete yet.

03:52I have been saying this for a long time.

03:54You talk about it again.

03:56I have asked you the question.

03:58The numbers have been completed.

04:00The reforms have been made.

04:02If the reforms have been made,

04:04and the term of all the judges will increase,

04:06then he will not resign.

04:08He will not resign.

04:10He will retire.

04:12If he retires, then well and good.

04:14He has to retire on retirement age.

04:16The Chief Justice will not accept resignation from his post.

04:18As far as I know him.

04:20Now if Mr. Khawar tells me

04:22that if all the judges issue a statement

04:24that we do not want any increase in retirement age,

04:26then what will be your opinion?

04:28Whatever has to be done,

04:30the parliament has to do it.

04:32It is not the will of the judges

04:34that the parliament has to do it.

04:36The parliament makes the law.

04:38The law determines the retirement age.

04:40Who is the judge to say

04:42that he should reduce his two-year term.

04:44He should retire earlier.

04:46The parliament can do that as well.

04:48The parliament is the Supreme Court.

04:50They can also close the Supreme Court

04:52when their decisions are not followed.

04:54A new constitutional court can be established

04:56before the Supreme Court.

04:58In the coming days,

05:00the Prime Minister has said that

05:02there will be no increase in retirement age.

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