Jorge Rodríguez | “Our country is the epicenter for fight against fascism in the continent” - video Dailymotion

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Statements made by Jorge Rodríguez during the World Congress against Fascism currently underway in Venezuela. teleSUR

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00:00Let's go live to Caracas, Venezuela, where the President of the National Assembly, Jorge

00:06Rodríguez, is offering statements in the framework of the World Antifascist Congress

00:10being held from September 10th to 11th in the country.

00:14Let's listen.

00:16... that recommend me books, and also about things I like the most.

00:24It is to recommend to the people that unify us.

00:33And I believe it's very important to propose to you this novel of Fabiano Masilvi, the

00:40angel of Munich, that tells in a detective way all that is surrounding the murder of

00:52Denise and lover of Adolf Hitler.

00:55But it represents perfectly that Germany pre-fascism.

01:02And although I haven't read it, I invite you to look for this book that I'm going to

01:10show you right now, Instructions to Become a Fascist, by Michela Burgia.

01:17And I propose you to read this together.

01:23This is a way to express our affection, our solidarity, and receive throughout HAWC the

01:37warmest welcome to this homeland of the liberator, small believer, and the homeland of our commander

01:46Hugo Chávez.

01:52Rander surprised me with this title of conference about psychological war.

02:00It must be that I'm a psychiatrist, and Venezuela has been in a war permanent against the imperialism.

02:10What I want to share with you today is denominated fascism and silent spiral.

02:16Why?

02:18First of all, I think that we must, before getting into some psychological issues, since

02:30the area of mental health and elements of neo-fascism and cyber-fascism and the use

02:39of social media to spread hate, we need to start from the truth of HAWC.

02:46First, fascism is nothing else but a political expression of a crisis in capitalism, an economic

02:54cause when elites seem to be at risk in front of the emergence of social movements that

03:03fight inequity situations and economic crises.

03:08Fascism emerged as the last resource used by all hierarchies of these countries.

03:15This is something that should have been called deceitment.

03:19Second, as Arthur Miller said, after the Second World War, all of the governments of extreme

03:29right and with neo-fascism issues have counted on the support of the North American governments

03:44of the United States.

03:46Not a single one hasn't been encouraged by the governments of the United States.

03:59This is the reason why in the United States there is no acute attack, because there is

04:05no embassy of the United States in this country.

04:09Although the political scenario could suggest this due to the crises that have been taking

04:16place there, due to the hatred that social media spread, it could be easy to identify

04:25fascism these days if fascism had the communicational approaches that it had during the 1940s.

04:39Look what the extreme right of Spain expressed.

04:45I will save Spain from Marxism no matter what it takes.

04:50I wouldn't care about killing half of Spain.

04:54That is the price to pay to pacify Francisco Franco.

04:59I don't understand why they didn't give him the Nobel Prize of Peace if they gave it to Barack Obama.

05:08But what he was given was North American base in Spanish territory and was endemned with

05:21This way it was easy to identify fascism because it was not only the product of a specific

05:27situation economically and socially in the post-war Europe, but also comes from a psychological

05:40mechanism, a mass psychological mechanism.

05:43I don't know if you know this.

05:45This is the first article in which Sigmund Freud starts to work, an element that simply

05:53surprised him in his first works.

05:59In 1907, Freud started to work in the definition of what after we knew of the psychic apparatus

06:11that an interchange of psychological forces that determine personality.

06:17And Freud pointed out that the human being was determined by just a main principle, the

06:26principle of pleasure.

06:27And he was not only talking about the erotic element, but the look for satisfaction of

06:34the needs, no matter where they were, laugh if your mother comes, eat if you're hungry,

06:44go to these places that don't make you feel uncomfortable.

06:51And during the two first decades of the 20th century, Freud was defending that all human

06:59beings were commanded by the principle of pleasure.

07:03But after the First World War and the emergence of a new way of addressing politics, the fascist

07:14movements in Germany and west of Europe, and also in Italy and Spain, so that Freud would

07:22say not only there has to be in a human being the principle of pleasure, but also other

07:31principles, equally powerful, constantly against the pleasure principle, which was

07:41called principle of destruction or death.

07:44And this is the picture of the original article by Freud in 1921.

07:49And from 1921 to 1925, Freud was pointing out that the human being also has a principle

07:57of self-destruction and destructions, and there come wars, aggressions, and homicides.

08:05Pay attention to this, because from the principle of destruction that all human beings have,

08:12Freud points out that if this principle is liberated from a social point of view, movements

08:20against the preservation of the human being can arise.

08:25How many millions of deaths caused the invasions of the army of the United States in the whole

08:34planet, and the civil war of Spain, which was a war determinated by the fascism at that

08:44And pay attention to the principle of destruction, because since it's a powerful mental mechanism,

08:51it's what the owners of the war resource to.

08:56They are the owners of the social media, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk, and

09:02we're fighting the three of them in the homeland of Bolivar and Chavez.

09:14They use precisely this emergence of the principle of destruction through handling, particularly

09:24their social media, so that men become wolves, men for destruction and women for hatred,

09:38lies, lack of compassion, lack of solidarity.

09:44That's the main element they use, and causes that people behave as zombies.

09:53And, for example, the neighbor that you have known for years for these actions of the social

10:02media becomes an enemy to destroy.

10:04Of course, fascism has psychological elements that are very important.

10:09I know that you have just had lunch, so I'm not going to get into Honduras to talk about

10:16these psychological elements that encompass the fascist ideology.

10:23There's another fundamental element that goes beyond the economic issue.

10:29It's the fascism resources to mental control mechanism, which is propaganda that has always been used.

10:40First, the first element is that all human beings have inside instances that are far

10:50away of this part of the brain that I have exposed, because I'm bold, which is the neocortex

10:58after this part of the head is the new neocortex, where emotions and love and rational thinking

11:13is put behind that.

11:18We have instances that are catalyzed by fascist ideology.

11:24Another element is fear and repression.

11:27There's always someone taking what's yours from you, although you don't have it.

11:32And that's a fundamental characteristic of the media, medium classes, which are always

11:41called for the power to defend what they don't have, but what they want to have in the case

11:48of Nazi Germany, Jewish and communists, in the case of Spain, communists, and in the

11:56case of the United States, also communists, Muslims, Latin Americans, all that is different

12:03from the white supremacy.

12:06Then, a mechanism of alienation and hierarchization.

12:11An element was identified through an entirely current of hierarchy.

12:20Another fundamental element of fascism emergence is that there's always a threat.

12:28At the beginnings of the Bolivarian Revolution, the sectors that rapidly emerged as fascist

12:35in the Chavez Venezuela, the revolutionary Venezuela, that came not to do other things

12:44but correct the inequity economically, socially, the Venezuela, the end of the 20th century.

12:55But what they say was mostly that Chavez is going to take your car, your house from you,

13:03but if you don't have a car, what car are they going to take from you?

13:08After they said Chavez is going to take your children from you, the threat that something

13:17that is coming is going to interrupt with your tranquility, and that is happening constantly.

13:26Of course, we are in a superior level of aggression against the Bolivarian Revolution, because

13:31now there's a real threat for humanity here, which is social media, a real danger for the

13:42existence of men and women as free human beings.

13:51What is being treated here is a threat for slavery in this topic, as presented in the

14:02novel Fahrenheit 451.

14:06In the case of the Bolivarian Revolution, not a single day has happened that these elements

14:14of extreme right and fascism have spread hate.

14:19Not only a single day, they have abandoned this tendency.

14:26And finally, they have been less successful in this.

14:29In the case of Venezuela, it's the construction of collective identities, all of this against

14:37In the case of Venezuela, the middle class, which was not favored by the Bolivarian Revolution

14:47and for Maduro, it's a class that has been protected for Maduro, since it's one of the

14:53main victims of the economic blockade and economic sanctions imposed by them.

15:00It's some kind of collective suicide.

15:06They applaud the things that hurt them.

15:09And this is applied through the principle of self-destruction described by Freud.

15:15This is a very famous picture that expressed the resistance.

15:24I think this happened in Hamburg, Germany.

15:28Hitler was inaugurating a port in Hamburg, and all of them were performing the Nazi greeting,

15:39but a man.

15:42But always that this happens, at least one that rises as voice against fascism, humanity

15:51has an opportunity.

15:52And that is why I feel so pleased that these important people gathered here to discuss

16:00about fascism.

16:02Now, what is the danger we're fighting in a moment like this we're living?

16:11The danger we're facing is that these three owners of social media that try to become

16:22the owners of the planet and the planet's economy, and we have to say it like this,

16:30Venezuela is today the center of the fight against fascism in the world.

16:37We didn't choose it and chose it.

16:41We didn't look for it.

16:53Well, this is a world congress against fascism in a similar expression.

16:58We will...

16:59We were alive to Caracas, Venezuela, where the president of the National Assembly, Jorge

17:04Rodríguez, offers statements in the framework of the World Antifascist Congress, which is

17:09being held from September 10th to 11th in the country.

17:12During his statements, Rodríguez welcomed all participants to the great homeland of

17:17Simón Bolívar and referred to the psychological war Venezuela has been subjected to in the

17:22past weeks.

17:23For the high official, fascism is a political expression of the crisis suffered by capitalism.

17:29Also, he recalled that after World War II, neofascism has been supported by the US and

17:35its western allies, and they are the main promoters of this archaic political current

17:40until today.

17:41Rodríguez also assured fascism is manifested today in social media and space that allows

17:46the spread of hatred with the complicity of western powers, who are the owners of the

17:51biggest technological and media emporiums.

17:54Fear and repression are two fundamental characteristics of the working class living under neofascism,

17:59a reality that Venezuela is fighting against for it never to settle in the country despite

18:05the ultra-right's attempts.

18:07Let's recall that in Venezuela, the World Antifascist Congress is being held from September

18:1210th to 11th, a conference that gathers more than 200 delegates from 95 countries around

18:18the world in support of the fight against imperialism, colonialism and fascism.

18:23This is all for the moment.

18:24Stay tuned.

18:25We're from the South.

Jorge Rodríguez | “Our country is the epicenter for fight against fascism in the continent”

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