Sawal Yeh Hai | Maria Memon | ARY News | 8th September 2024

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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maryam Aiman and today's top stories is about the power show of PTI
00:16and government interference.
00:17Today, Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is holding a meeting.
00:18It is the last meeting after several reforms.
00:19But on the other hand, it seems that the government has shut down the whole city and its surroundings.
00:20We will talk about this in the first part of the program.
00:21After that, we will talk about the issues of the government.
00:22Is there any possibility of a breakthrough in the negotiations or not?
00:23We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:24After that, women are facing violence all over the world.
00:25This week, we will show you the news about the violence of women in some newspapers all
00:26over the world.
00:27And in this news, we will also talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:28We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:29We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:30We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:31We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:32We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:33We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:34We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:35We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:36We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:37We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:38We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:39We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:40We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:41We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:42We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:43We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:44We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:45We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:46We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:47We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:48We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:49We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:50We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:51We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:52We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:53We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:54We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:55We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:56We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:57We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:58We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
00:59We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:00We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:01We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:02We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:03We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:04We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:05We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:06We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:07We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:08We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:09We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:10We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:11We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:12We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:13We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:14We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:15We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:16We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:17We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:18We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:19We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:20We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:21We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:22We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:23We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:24We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:25We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:26We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:27We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:28We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:29We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:30We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:31We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:32We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:33We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:34We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:35We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:36We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:37We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:38We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:39We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:40We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:41We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:42We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:43We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:44We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:45We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:46We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:47We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:48We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:49We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:50We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:51We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:52We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:53We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:54We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:55We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:56We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:57We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:58We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
01:59We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:00We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:02We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:03We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:04We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:05We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:06We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:07We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:08We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:09We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:10We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:11We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:12We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
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02:26We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
02:27We will talk about the violence of women in Pakistan.
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05:40I have been working in some containers since morning.
05:43I went to PIMS office a while ago,
05:46then I told you by mistake, I went to FATE,
05:48then I came back from there.
05:50So, there are not many containers on these routes,
05:53from where we enter,
05:55one is our main artery,
05:58which passes through the blue area,
06:00there are containers in front of it,
06:02and one is in front of it,
06:04the big hotel,
06:07in front of Serena,
06:09there are containers in front of it.
06:10Sir, the routes to Murree are closed,
06:11the routes to Islamabad are closed,
06:13people are telling this themselves.
06:14Some places are closed,
06:15I am telling you,
06:16wherever I have been,
06:17in the whole city,
06:18in Islamabad,
06:19because I have not gone out,
06:20so I am not disputing your point,
06:22but the security measures that have been taken at this time,
06:25much more than this,
06:26the security measures,
06:27when the team from Bangladesh came,
06:30then the containers were there.
06:32We have this,
06:33a situation of law and order arises,
06:36for which we have to take security measures,
06:39especially when a party,
06:41which before the Jalsas,
06:43and this time they reduced it,
06:45because of which they got permission for the Jalsa,
06:47and they are still doing the Jalsa,
06:49but when you give such statements,
06:51and the statements are at the level of the Chief Minister,
06:54that we will break the jail,
06:55and take Mr. Khan,
06:57before the Jalsa,
06:58or that we are coming to occupy Islamabad,
07:02and no one's father can stop us,
07:04and especially in this background,
07:09that before this,
07:10you have also occupied the parliament,
07:13you have broken the walls and entered,
07:16you have also surrounded the secretariat,
07:19you are on PTV,
07:20like there are foreign forces,
07:22they first occupy PTV or such institutions,
07:27turn off the TV,
07:28make victory signs there,
07:31or fight with the police,
07:34and break the bones of the SSP,
07:38or about 9th May,
07:40I will not go into the details,
07:41then the program will go in a new direction,
07:44but such a political party,
07:45which has done 9th May,
07:47the core commanders,
07:48that is,
07:49from whose threats,
07:51military installations are not safe,
07:54and civil installations are not safe,
07:57and then they claim,
07:59that when we come this time,
08:00we will break the jail,
08:01when we come this time,
08:02we will occupy Islamabad,
08:03then some safety measures will be taken.
08:05But where have these claims been made this time?
08:07NOC,
08:08Not in this town,
08:10because of which they were not allowed.
08:12The NOC gave them a mutual agreement,
08:14that the roads will not be closed,
08:16if the roads are closed,
08:17then it is a breach of contract.
08:19I will tell you,
08:20Mariya Sahiba,
08:21last time you will remember,
08:22that a similar contract was made,
08:24this was the protest of 2014,
08:27I do not remember when the protest took place.
08:29In 2014.
08:30In 2014.
08:31This contract was made in that protest too.
08:33And permission was given in that protest too.
08:36And this agreement was,
08:37that you will not come beyond this.
08:39And after that,
08:40you will remember,
08:41that Krenel came,
08:42breaking all the obstacles,
08:44he came,
08:45and in front of the parliament,
08:47and in front of the PM house,
08:48he reached.
08:49Despite all those agreements,
08:51he reached.
08:52And after that,
08:53for many months,
08:54what you saw,
08:55the theater that was going on here,
08:57and as a result of that,
08:58the attacks,
08:59and the things that I mentioned,
09:00the graves that were dug,
09:01or the latrines that were put up,
09:03and all that,
09:04that is in front of you.
09:05That is why,
09:06whenever permission is given,
09:07especially to such a community,
09:09which has a track record,
09:10to violate them,
09:11and not this time,
09:12not this week,
09:13but the last Jalsa,
09:14before that,
09:15the threats that I have told you,
09:17Okay,
09:18but you did not let that Jalsa happen.
09:19No, we did not.
09:20But this time,
09:21No, there is a trend.
09:22There is a trend.
09:23There is a trend.
09:24But you did not let the opponents
09:25to hold the Jalsa.
09:26You did not let Tariq Insaaf to hold it.
09:27No, look,
09:28if there is such a thing,
09:29If the TLP people come here,
09:30that will also happen.
09:31Maulana can also hold the Jalsa.
09:32Tariq Insaaf cannot do it.
09:33You are saying two things.
09:34Both are important things.
09:35The first thing is that,
09:36a community,
09:37which has a track record,
09:38when you make an agreement with it,
09:39which despite the agreement,
09:40after breaking the agreement,
09:41has been held in the parliament,
09:42and has been held here for four,
09:43many months,
09:44and the secretariat has been closed,
09:45for that,
09:46you do not have to take
09:47precautionary measures.
09:48Apart from that,
09:49you did not let the Jalsa
09:51to be held in the parliament.
09:52Apart from that,
09:53you have seen the burning of
09:54government properties
09:55and the burning of
09:56civil vehicles.
09:57So, for that,
09:58it is not appropriate
09:59to not take precautions
10:00or to not take
10:01precautionary measures.
10:02This is one thing.
10:03The second thing is that,
10:04look,
10:05last time also,
10:06in your program
10:07or in many other programs,
10:08when I spoke,
10:09people said that,
10:10oh brother,
10:11you did not allow it.
10:12So, I said,
10:13those who were coming
10:14to break the jail,
10:15with so much threat,
10:16with so much fear,
10:17those who were saying
10:18that the caravans were moving,
10:19with lakhs of people
10:20from all over the country,
10:21they should have
10:22taken permission.
10:23Those who wanted to
10:24attend the Jalsa,
10:25they would have come.
10:26We would have caught
10:27something,
10:28we would not have caught
10:29anything.
10:30You do not have people
10:31with you,
10:32you do not have a plot
10:33of five canals
10:34filled with people.
10:35Four people were there
10:36that day.
10:37The Jalsa was cancelled
10:38in the morning,
10:39right?
10:40So, for the Jalsa,
10:41people were coming
10:42from all over the country.
10:43Where were those people?
10:44That is why,
10:45first of all,
10:46they do not have
10:47such power.
10:48Where are those people?
10:49Where are those people?
10:50Where is that Jalsa?
10:51Where are those bullock carts?
10:52Where are those big caravans
10:53that are coming from
10:54Hyderabad?
10:55There are no big caravans
10:56that you think
10:57should have been there.
10:58Mr. Atar,
10:59the Jalsa that we are
11:00seeing right now,
11:01the government's weight
11:02is in this.
11:03If there is a movement,
11:04if there is a public rally,
11:05then they come,
11:06they cry,
11:07they go ahead.
11:08And this has happened
11:09in the past,
11:10all the movements
11:11that take place,
11:12the administration always
11:13restricts it,
11:14stops it.
11:15But if a large number
11:16of people come out,
11:17then no one can
11:18stop them.
11:19Do you think
11:20that in bringing
11:21such a large number
11:22of people out,
11:23did the administration
11:24succeed today?
11:25Or did it succeed
11:26in the past
11:27eight months?
11:28Look,
11:29obviously,
11:30this is the
11:31responsibility of the
11:32government.
11:33The government
11:34cannot take a risk.
11:35If the security
11:36of the matter
11:37is not good,
11:38then the government
11:39will ask the people.
11:40So,
11:41the government
11:42puts up
11:43containers and
11:44stops them.
11:45But there is
11:46a lot of
11:47security.
11:48And no one
11:49knows how
11:50these people
11:51came there.
11:52You mentioned
11:53TLP.
11:54Did any of them
11:55file a case
11:56against Dafa
11:57144?
11:58Hafiz Sahib
11:59also came and
12:00sat.
12:01He was coming
12:02to Islamabad
12:03and sitting
12:04in Delhi.
12:05Dafa 144
12:06was also
12:07in Punjab.
12:08But we
12:09did not see
12:10any action
12:11being taken.
12:12Then there
12:13it seems that
12:14the government
12:15is not
12:16talking about
12:17any extremist
12:18party.
12:19We are
12:20talking about
12:21the biggest
12:22parliamentary
12:23party in the
12:24country,
12:25which fought
12:26the elections
12:27without
12:28elections.
12:29And even
12:30now,
12:31it is a
12:32bigger party
12:33than
12:34Musnad
12:35Malik
12:36Sahib's
12:37party.
12:38He also
12:39got a lot
12:40of votes.
12:41So,
12:42this is a
12:43question mark.
12:44We
12:45are
12:46not
12:47talking
12:48about
12:49any
12:50extremist
12:51party.
12:52We
12:53are
12:54not
12:55talking
12:56about
12:57any
12:58extremist
12:59party.
13:00We
13:01are
13:02not
13:03talking
13:04about
13:05any
13:06extremist
13:07party.
13:08We
13:09are
13:10not
13:11talking
13:12about
13:13any
13:14extremist
13:15party.
13:16We
13:17are
13:18not
13:19talking
13:20about
13:21any
13:22extremist
13:23party.
13:24We
13:25are
13:26not
13:27talking
13:28about
13:29any
13:30extremist
13:31party.
13:32We
13:33are
13:34not
13:35talking
13:36about
13:37any
13:38extremist
13:39party.
13:40We
13:41are
13:42not
13:43talking
13:44about
13:45any
13:46extremist
13:47party.
13:48We
13:49are
13:50not
13:51talking
13:52about
13:53any
13:54extremist
13:55party.
13:56We
13:57are
13:58not
13:59talking
14:00about
14:01any
14:02extremist
14:03party.
14:04We
14:05are
14:06not
14:07talking
14:08about
14:09any
14:10extremist
14:11party.
14:12We
14:13are
14:14not
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23:52We will talk about legalisation because obviously the government is talking about bringing a judicial package
23:58and we can see many other reasons for that.
24:01We can see that the People's Party is in a large number of people in Islamabad
24:05and is criticising the people.
24:09All the senators and MNAs of the People's Party are coming here.
24:13Is it going to get bigger? We will talk about this after the break. Stay with us.
24:16Welcome back guys. This week the government is going to establish a new law.
24:24Judges' appointment, the duration of their appointment,
24:29and especially their posting and transfer, which can be done from different courts at any time.
24:35We will hear about this.
24:37Doc, I will definitely talk to you about this, but I think we should talk to Muneeb first.
24:41Muneeb, the PMLN is still categorically denying this.
24:46I have heard this from all the ministers. I will ask Doc about this.
24:49But behind the scenes, yesterday Tehreek-e-Insaf's Ranima Rao Fasan was with us
24:53and he said that he has been in contact with 5-6 people
24:57and it has been said that a vote has to be given in favour of legalisation.
25:02So there is confirmation that work is being done on this.
25:05Do you think that this will be tabled this week?
25:08Or will we see some kind of development in this regard?
25:13Look, Doc will have the first-hand information.
25:20It is his government, if they want to do anything.
25:23But I will tell you that a lot of things are not off the table yet.
25:27I said this before and I will say it again.
25:29Whether it is related to the judiciary or some other issues,
25:34a lot of things are not revealed by the government
25:37and a lot of times the impression is given that we have no intentions.
25:42But I will tell you that a lot of friends have worked on a lot of people.
25:48And maybe some of those friends are in that number 41.
25:54And they go somewhere and say that we are with you.
25:59We have no interest in fighting.
26:01But the problem is that what will we do with us?
26:05If we vote on this, if we support the government, then it will be very bad for us.
26:10Now how can they negotiate?
26:13Can they be completely convinced or not?
26:16But I am giving you this as a piece of news,
26:21that a lot of work has been done or is being done.
26:23Or maybe it has been done.
26:25But it was not that there is nothing and nothing is being done.
26:29The government definitely wants to do something.
26:31And the reason for that is that where the government wants to do this,
26:37we should also see this element that with great respect,
26:41I myself as a law student,
26:44our country's judiciary has also done a lot of work with great satisfaction.
26:48As disappointed as I was at the time of Mr. Bandyal,
26:52as a Pakistani because of Pakistan,
26:54I am still as disappointed.
26:56And even today that division is as distinct.
26:59Maybe in the coming days, this gap will not be able to be bridged.
27:04And maybe this is what will happen.
27:06Difference of opinion is something else.
27:08But when you take care of the political battlefield,
27:11and you don't need a lawyer,
27:14and you choose the arguments of the lawyer yourself,
27:18and you power through them to reach a decision,
27:21then a lot of work goes wrong.
27:24I think you should understand a little more.
27:26The rest you are very intelligent, you will understand what I am saying.
27:28Okay.
27:29Atar, the government that is talking about legislation at the moment,
27:33PMLN denies it.
27:35We think that it will become a legal table as a surprise element.
27:40But the behind-the-scenes contacts on it,
27:43those independent members confirm it.
27:46That is why we are assuming that work is being done on it.
27:49Muneeb also has some such news.
27:51So do you think that legally there is no division,
27:55but politically if you cross over to vote,
27:58then there are big repercussions.
28:00And maybe this is what those members are thinking, as per my understanding.
28:04Yes, absolutely.
28:05Obviously, the government is also in contact.
28:08And the government would wish that some people vote in our favor.
28:10This is a part of the political process.
28:12You cannot accuse the government of this.
28:14If you are bringing this law,
28:16and the government wishes that people from the other side also support us,
28:19then this is their right.
28:20But will it be possible at this time?
28:22I don't think so.
28:24Does the government want to do it?
28:26Does it want to give an extension?
28:28Does it want to increase the position of the Chief Justice?
28:32There is no doubt that work has been done on this.
28:35And this will continue till the night of 23rd October.
28:38Till that night, the government will wish.
28:40If someone denies this, then I am not ready to accept it.
28:43I have spoken to many friends,
28:45the government, and the people who are involved in the government.
28:48These things have been discussed in great detail.
28:50The second thing that Malik sir just said,
28:53he said something very important,
28:55that there should be injustice with anyone in Pakistan.
28:58Look, all these political parties,
29:00sometimes one is popular, sometimes the other is popular.
29:03But there are some values that we have to endorse on a permanent basis,
29:08and propagate on a permanent basis.
29:10The day I sat here on TV,
29:12the day Hanif Abbasi sir was punished in the middle of the night,
29:15if Musadiq Malik sir does not know,
29:17then he should ask Hanif Abbasi sir,
29:19what was my position on that?
29:21When 17 kilos of heroin was put on Rana Sanaullah sir,
29:24in a very stupid way,
29:26what was my position at that time?
29:28But now it is not possible that in such an era,
29:30the judge is writing a letter to the Chief Justice,
29:32that a transformer has been picked up in front of my house.
29:34So, we should not criticize the role of this government in that.
29:37This is what we want,
29:39that certain values should be upheld in every era.
29:42And we hope that people like Musadiq Malik sir,
29:44and educated people like him,
29:46will at least agree on this minimum agenda.
29:48Okay.
29:49That is why I spoke to these two gentlemen on this topic,
29:52because when we talk about PMLN,
29:54everyone denies it,
29:57that there is no such legislation.
29:59Whereas the candidates who are being contacted,
30:01they say that we are being talked to for legislation.
30:04So, finally, what is the status so far?
30:07I would like to thank Atar Kazmi sir,
30:11for his explanation,
30:13and his explanation is absolutely correct.
30:15And I think he has a fair point,
30:17the point of view that he has given,
30:19this is a very balanced point of view.
30:21So, I would like to thank him.
30:23See, the thing is,
30:25do we want to make laws and regulations?
30:27I think we want to.
30:29Why do we want to make laws and regulations?
30:32Because when a decision of the Supreme Court,
30:35is not in accordance with any other decision,
30:39it means that there is some ambiguity in the law.
30:43When two judges,
30:45one Supreme Court judge,
30:47makes a decision on NAB,
30:49and the other Supreme Court judge,
30:51makes another decision on NAB,
30:53and it is the same country's law,
30:55and it is the same country's law,
30:57then at least it becomes clear to you,
30:59that whatever is written,
31:01the way the court is treating it,
31:03after that, there is no consistency in the decisions,
31:06there is no compatibility.
31:08That too in that society,
31:10because Muneeb sir is sitting,
31:12where there is a precedence-based judicial system,
31:14where it is not that,
31:16if I don't want to do it today,
31:18then this punishment will come today,
31:20and tomorrow this punishment will come,
31:22where you put forward the old decisions,
31:24quote them, cite them,
31:26make your case,
31:28and take it forward.
31:30There, two benches usually make different decisions.
31:32Where there is only one bench.
31:34Well, the two are separate,
31:36the judge was different,
31:38the judge was different,
31:40the judge was different.
31:42The people sitting in one bench,
31:44should tell each other,
31:46that the judges should not look like
31:48politicians wearing a jubba.
31:50When your own fraternity,
31:52and half the judges sitting on one bench,
31:54should tell half the judges sitting on the other,
31:56some other things,
31:58then what should we say in your program?
32:00No, that is fine,
32:02I am just asking,
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