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PTI Jalsa | Omar Ayub Resigns , And Rauf Hassan likely to be removed as position | Inside Story
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9/7/2024
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PTI Jalsa | Omar Ayub Resigns , And Rauf Hassan likely to be removed as position | Inside Story
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00:00
There have been some changes in your Jamaat.
00:02
Mr. Umar Ayub resigned for the second time.
00:04
The party did not accept him for the first time,
00:06
but this time they accepted him.
00:08
What happened behind the scene
00:10
that he was not accepted for the first time?
00:12
Even then he said that he cannot fulfill his responsibilities.
00:14
Then he was told to continue.
00:16
More or less, the same reasons are still there.
00:18
But this time he was told not to do it.
00:20
Look,
00:22
it is a very simple thing that
00:24
Mr. Umar Ayub is the leader of the opposition.
00:26
So he is the prime minister in waiting
00:28
in the National Assembly.
00:30
This is a double full-time job.
00:32
And the secretary-general
00:34
is the pivot of the party.
00:36
All the decisions have to be taken by the secretary-general's office.
00:38
And frankly,
00:40
I have spoken to Mr. Umar Ayub
00:42
many times about this.
00:44
He says that he is not able to do it.
00:46
Thirdly, the burden that he has right now,
00:48
which is a very big burden.
00:50
Every day, virtually, he has to travel to one part of the country or the other
00:52
regarding his cases.
00:54
There have been multiple cases on him.
00:56
Sometimes he is in Lahore, sometimes he is in Sargodha,
00:58
sometimes he is in Gujranwala.
01:00
Almost four or five days of the week, he is out of city.
01:02
You know, he is going to his bail system.
01:04
So, he is not able to do the party.
01:06
That is why he had already resigned.
01:08
And now, on Mr. Khan's request,
01:10
since he was not accepted,
01:12
he continued.
01:14
But this was constantly on his mind
01:16
that I am not able to do justice.
01:18
The party is suffering.
01:20
So he was more interested in continuing his
01:22
parliamentary career.
01:24
He said that he will assist
01:26
and help as a common worker.
01:28
I will be present wherever I need to be.
01:30
So, is this the only change in the party?
01:32
Because I have heard that
01:34
the Secretary of Information is also changing.
01:36
The Secretary of Information is sitting in front of you.
01:38
That is why I am asking you.
01:40
No, no. There is no such thing.
01:42
There is no such thing.
01:44
Mr. Sheikh Waqas Akram's name is circulating.
01:46
That is why I am directly asking you
01:48
whether this is true or not.
01:50
Because this is heard.
01:52
So, I will go.
01:54
The day I meet Mr. Khan, I will talk to him.
01:56
I will ask him.
01:58
So, in any meeting,
02:00
did the leaders not trust you
02:02
that there should be a change
02:04
in the Secretary of Information?
02:06
There has never been such a thing.
02:08
On the contrary,
02:10
he has always been very profusely appreciative
02:12
of the work that I have done.
02:14
I am very grateful to him.
02:16
But the change comes in the party.
02:18
It should come. It should keep coming.
02:20
I will tell him that I am not able to do my work properly.
02:22
So, I will go myself and ask him to replace me.
02:24
But till this moment,
02:26
as you and I talk,
02:28
there is no such situation in my knowledge.
02:30
Sir, let's move ahead a little.
02:32
The Jalsa that is taking place tomorrow
02:34
in Islamabad,
02:36
is it under any arrangement?
02:38
Because we are seeing that
02:40
earlier, there were no permits.
02:42
There was no facilitation.
02:44
Now, all that is happening.
02:46
Most probably, we will see on the media tomorrow
02:48
that there are no obstacles
02:50
in front of people.
02:52
So, what does it mean?
02:54
Because if there is a change in tone,
02:56
change in mood, change in strategy,
02:58
what is it?
03:00
I have been trying to explain it for the past 2-3 days.
03:02
I will repeat it here in your program as well.
03:04
See, how did the situation
03:06
progress?
03:08
Our Jalsa on 22nd August
03:10
was taking place on the same day
03:12
when in Islamabad, you know,
03:14
the religious communities were also being cut.
03:16
At that time, you know,
03:18
there were containers everywhere.
03:20
So, on the same night,
03:22
when it was supposed to happen in the morning,
03:24
on the night of 21st,
03:26
we were contacted by the people of the establishment
03:28
and they requested us to
03:30
proceed with the Jalsa.
03:32
Can I ask from which level
03:34
you were contacted?
03:36
I think, if we don't go into that,
03:38
it is better.
03:40
So, along with that,
03:42
they gave us the NOC of the Jalsa on 8th September
03:44
So, you had it with you?
03:46
Yes, they gave it to us on the night of 21st.
03:48
Was it a verbal NOC?
03:50
No, it was in writing.
03:52
In writing, you had it?
03:54
In that, the venue was not defined
03:56
but the date, the No Objection Certificate
03:58
issued by the district administration
04:00
was handed over to us on the same night,
04:02
on 21st.
04:04
So, in the morning, Mr. Swati was in jail.
04:06
After that, Mr. Alimin Gandapur
04:08
told them to proceed with the Jalsa.
04:10
He said that only one person
04:12
can do that, who is in the jail.
04:14
So, you know that the doors of the jail
04:16
were opened at 7 in the morning.
04:18
Mr. Swati and our chairman
04:20
went there and
04:22
informed Mr. Khan about the situation.
04:24
And Mr. Khan, understandably,
04:26
reluctantly, told them to proceed with the Jalsa.
04:28
And that Jalsa was done.
04:30
So, there was a request
04:32
from the establishment
04:34
which we obliged.
04:36
Today, regarding the Jalsa on 8th September,
04:38
since the last two days,
04:40
when people come to the Jalsa,
04:42
they are kidnapped,
04:44
their belongings are kept there,
04:46
they are kidnapped,
04:48
they are taken away,
04:50
then they are released from the police station.
04:52
They have changed the venue three times.
04:54
We have got the No Objection Certificate
04:56
for that venue as well.
04:58
That is why we are doing this Jalsa.
05:00
So, a lot of problems are being created
05:02
by the administration.
05:04
But the Jalsa will take place tomorrow.
05:06
It will definitely take place.
05:08
What's the headcount?
05:10
What's your expected headcount?
05:12
I can't tell you the numbers.
05:14
As much as there is passion,
05:16
I think it will be a special world.
05:18
I don't think the venue
05:20
they have given us will be enough
05:22
to accommodate people.
05:24
But along with that,
05:26
I would like to say that
05:28
all the routes have been blocked.
05:30
From Punjab to Kishtyar,
05:32
from outside areas,
05:34
all the routes have been blocked.
05:36
People will come from KP as well.
05:38
The Chief Minister himself is leading.
05:40
He is the leader of the Jalsa itself.
05:42
Will they come with an official status?
05:44
Will the KP administration
05:46
facilitate it?
05:48
When the Chief Minister moves,
05:50
it is a must that
05:52
he has his own protocol.
05:54
When he comes, it is a must
05:56
that he comes with a protocol.
05:58
People are coming from Punjab.
06:00
People have come from far off places.
06:02
They have reached Islamabad and Rawalpindi.
06:04
I expect a very good crowd tomorrow.
06:34
I think in that context,
06:36
Mr. Khan gave a statement
06:38
that this is a time to stay unified
06:40
rather than creating divisions.
06:42
After his statement,
06:44
there has been a lot of improvement.
06:46
They are trying to rectify
06:48
the small issues at the political level.
06:50
So, this is your communication strategy.
06:52
You can see a little bit of
06:54
haphazardness in it.
06:56
In one week, you saw
06:58
that Mr. Marwad is in the party
07:00
and not in the next week.
07:02
You are meeting Mr. Khan.
07:04
There are a lot of delays.
07:06
Who is in control?
07:08
Who is in charge?
07:10
Mr. Khan is in jail.
07:12
Who is making the political strategy?
07:14
There are two sources
07:16
for decision making.
07:18
Mr. Khan has empowered
07:20
the political committee
07:22
which has 24 members.
07:24
Those decisions go to Mr. Khan
07:26
for final approval.
07:28
Some decisions are made by Mr. Khan
07:30
and some decisions are made
07:32
by the political committee.
07:34
These are the two sources
07:36
for decision making.
07:38
We don't have any other
07:40
mechanism for decision making.
07:42
Let's move on.
07:44
Mr. Marwad's haphazardness
07:46
I gave an example.
07:48
It is a very prominent example.
07:50
There is no other such issue.
07:52
The differences in the party
07:54
are there.
07:56
The problem is
07:58
I have expressed this
08:00
on forums and public forums.
08:02
The issue in PTI
08:04
is that
08:06
the discussions in the party
08:08
are taken to the public forums.
08:10
The media picks them.
08:12
We can't blame the media.
08:14
There are a few people
08:16
who do this.
08:18
We try to convince them
08:20
that there are forums available.
08:22
You can sit there and
08:24
express your differences
08:26
and take a decision.
08:28
There are a few people
08:30
who create issues.
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