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00:00I've cancelled three NOC's and I'll tell you the reasons for all three, and you'll smile at it.

00:04The first time I cancelled the NOC, they said that terrorists have come from the border areas of Fatah.

00:09So, I cancelled the NOC on this basis.

00:11The one that got cancelled on 5th August, they said that it's the 40th after Muharram.

00:15Terrorists can also come here. This Jalsa got cancelled.

00:17The one that got cancelled on 22nd August, they said that TLP, because the Supreme Court is going out in the Mubarak-Sahni case,

00:22there's terrorism here.

00:23Today, on September, let's tell them which terrorism it is.

00:26Just for simple.

00:45So, you're saying that if they try to stop you, then there will be mass killings on the streets as well?

00:57If they don't let us do Jalsa, then why not T-Chok?

01:00Which T-Chok is outside of Pakistan?

01:02Or which one of them has gone so far?

01:04If we don't get our rights, then we can protest anywhere.

01:08This is not a big deal.

01:09Yes, they will let you enter T-Chok.

01:11Mr. Baki, they are putting you in jail for three years for Jalsa, so who will let you enter T-Chok?

01:16It's a matter of purpose.

01:18What didn't they do to us in the last two years?

01:19Already, our chairman has been in jail for the last one year.

01:23So, which law is going on?

01:25What difference does it make?

01:31Very frankly, I'm thinking.

01:33Are they going to apologize for what they did to us?

01:35Will they apologize for Mr. Khan's case?

01:37Will they apologize for the FIR that was filed against Mr. Khan?

01:40I mean, the way they were taken away from the High Court.

01:43Will anyone apologize for this?

01:45It's a war of ego.

01:47It's a war of egos.

01:48They won't let us do Jalsa.

01:49Put them in jail for three years.

01:51Put them in jail for three years.

01:52I don't want to predict whether they will get permission or not.

01:55It's possible that they will get permission.

01:57If the security situation is good, then I'm saying that they have a legal right to do this.

02:02This is a separate matter.

02:03Mr. Rana, you know and we know that they won't get permission.

02:07It's possible that they won't get permission.

02:09If the security situation is good, then I can't predict.

02:11Anyway, it's their history.

02:13They are saying that they should apologize for what they did.

02:15They should apologize.

02:16They were involved in the 9th of May.

02:18They preached that if not for Khan, then not for Pakistan.

02:22Redline Khan.

02:23And then what they did on 10th of May was unprecedented.

02:26Mr. Rana, one second.

02:28What will happen if they apologize?

02:30That's the beginning.

02:32You are saying that they should apologize first.

02:40If they apologize, will you forgive them?

02:42It's not a big deal.

02:44But if someone breaks the law, then apologizing for that is not the end of the story.

02:51Then why are they apologizing?

02:52It's not an ethical or moral responsibility.

02:54Did you hear Mr. Khair's apology?

02:56I just want to tell you that they should apologize on 9th of May.

03:02The problem is that you are saying that if you apologize, then the problem will be solved.

03:06The thing is that you don't feel responsible.

03:08Either you say that this country will run according to the law, then you will be punished.

03:11Or you say that the problem is not a big deal.

03:13We want forgiveness.

03:14If you apologize, then the problem will be solved.

03:16This country will run according to the law.

03:20But if you want to move forward, then the bare minimum is that you take responsibility.

03:26If Imran Khan apologizes on 9th of May, then his case will not go to the military court.

03:29This case will not be filed against Imran Khan.

03:31You take responsibility for this.

03:33When did I take responsibility?

03:34They said that I am responsible.

03:35We made a mistake.

03:36It happened on 9th of May.

03:37Then what?

03:38Then we can talk to this party.

03:40And you can move forward with this.

03:42This is a political issue.

03:44No, it's not a political issue.

03:45If someone is involved in this,

03:47if someone is involved in its abetment,

03:49if someone is involved in its planning,

03:51then they should be prosecuted according to the law.

03:53But if people beyond this accept that there was a mistake,

03:57then you can move forward with them.

03:59People who are not directly involved in this.

04:01Mr. Mappi, I am commenting on this very fairly.

04:05This 9th of May is not a good step in any country.

04:09If people enter Capitol Hill,

04:11if there are riots in Britain,

04:14the states will not tolerate these things.

04:16In our country, they are saying,

04:18apologize and move forward.

04:20You are not apologizing.

04:22Apologizing or not,

04:24this is a bad thing.

04:26This is an illegal act.

04:28People are angry.

04:30This is a simple thing.

04:32There should not be any condition on this.

04:34There should not be any condition on this.

04:36There should not be any condition on this.

04:38No, no, we are saying this.

04:40But why are we saying this?

04:42No, no, I will tell you.

04:44The law will find its own way.

04:46Then why are you apologizing?

04:48This is the basic minimum.

04:50This was done by PMLN.

04:52This was done by the establishment.

04:54They are showing so much stubbornness.

04:56Those who did it,

04:58are saying that we did not do it.

05:00Someone else did it.

05:02Apologize to them.

05:04This is the same thing.

05:06We got whitewashed from Bangladesh.

05:08Apologize and move forward.

05:11We have been humiliated a lot in cricket.

05:13I am laughing at these people.

05:15When they compare with Capitol Hill,

05:17that they were punished for what happened there.

05:19One person was hanged there.

05:21You took him to the court.

05:23He was punished for 3 years, 7 years, 10 years.

05:25What kind of calculation is this?

05:27Did someone kidnap Trump at that time?

05:29No, the Democratic Party was not involved in that.

05:31No, the Democratic Party was not involved in that.

05:33Only Trump and his followers were involved.

05:35Mr. Bappi, I will tell you one thing.

05:37Listen to me.

05:39Mr. Bappi, listen to me.

05:41I have said this 10 times on this platform.

05:43Listen to me.

05:45What should happen?

05:47Mr. Bappi is right.

05:49Punish those who are involved.

05:51Punish those who are not.

05:53They should do their politics.

05:55This cannot happen.

05:57And whether Donald Trump is doing his politics or not,

05:59he is doing his politics.

06:01Let me listen to him and then I will come to you.

06:03The Republicans were not involved in that.

06:05Trump was a presidential candidate.

06:08Trump was a presidential candidate.

06:10He was campaigning.

06:12But the party was not involved in that.

06:14Only the party is involved in this.

06:16Mr. Bappi.

06:18Kashif, it is very simple.

06:20If someone crosses the red line on 9th May,

06:22he should be punished in the courts.

06:24This is not in any of the laws of the world

06:26to ask for forgiveness.

06:28You should be punished.

06:30I will tell you something interesting.

06:32There are 102 children in our military trial.

06:34They are in the military establishment.

06:36The Supreme Court has said that they do not want to hear it now.

06:38Many of them were not supposed to be punished for more than 6 months.

06:40I think the Supreme Court has stopped them

06:42from hearing the case.

06:44You should be punished.

06:46You should be punished.

06:48What happened in America,

06:50did not happen in Pakistan.

06:52What happened in the past two years,

06:54from Wazirabad to Zaman Park,

06:56did it happen with Trump?

06:58There is a background.

07:00There is a whole story.

07:02You should react in the context of that.

07:05Again, my two cents.

07:07What happened in Wazirabad was also wrong.

07:09But nothing justifies a rash response.

07:11You cannot say that...

07:13Sir, listen to me.

07:15If it happened in Wazirabad,

07:17GHQ is allowed.

07:19Court Commander House is allowed.

07:21All three are not allowed.

07:23All three should be punished.

07:25All three should be caught.

07:27Who was behind Wazirabad?

07:29Who was behind GHQ?

07:31If we have made this mistake,

07:33we should not ask for forgiveness.

07:35I was asking you what will happen

07:37if we ask for forgiveness.

07:39If forgiveness is on the table.

07:41But if you want to put IDDAT on 9th May,

07:43if you want to put CYPHER on 9th May,

07:45if you want to put Social Security on 9th May,

07:47if you want to put Al-Qaeda on 9th May,

07:49that is a stupid approach.

07:51The propaganda you are doing to the country,

07:53and you are still doing the politics

07:55of hatred,

07:57the politics of polarization.

07:59There are already big issues in Pakistan.

08:02You should ask for forgiveness.

08:04There is no doubt that you are aware

08:06of your responsibility.

08:08Nothing will happen with that.

08:10But the whole party,

08:12who is doing wrong,

08:14should be punished.

08:16Those who did not do wrong,

08:18should be thrown out.

08:20You are saying that we did not do this on 9th May.

08:22You are saying that we did not do this on 9th May.

08:24This was a false flag operation against us.

08:26This is not a legal action.

08:28But if you have a little moral ethics,

08:30then you should take some responsibility.

08:32Without taking responsibility,

08:34if you want to move forward,

08:36this is not going to happen in this country.

08:38If you have some accountability on 9th May,

08:40then we will move forward.

08:42Who holds the responsibility?

08:44The system of justice.

08:46The system of justice will tell the whole of Pakistan

08:48who was the accused,

08:50who gave the order,

08:52who told them to go in,

08:54whether it was a false flag or not,

08:56whether the leader gave the order,

08:59the system of justice will tell everyone.

09:01As a political statement,

09:03this is what happens in our country.

09:05We are telling you,

09:07the judge, jury, executioner,

09:09they are all the same.

09:11The one who accused,

09:13he is the one who gives the punishment.

09:15Listen to my last minute question.

09:17You answer it,

09:19I will take a break.

09:21From 9th May to 3rd or 4th September,

09:23there were dozens of press conferences

09:25from all sides.

09:27The government did it.

09:29Everyone did it.

09:31And they said, we have evidence.

09:33If there is any evidence,

09:35they would have shown it to the world.

09:37We did not stop it.

09:39There is no restriction on PTA.

09:41There is no restriction on cameras.

09:43There are 2,000 evidences.

09:45There are 2,000 selfies.

09:47You are waving the flag.

09:49Look, the thing is,

09:51I completely agree that

09:53if your judicial system was effective,

09:56what would you let it do?

09:58You will decide that the judicial system is wrong?

10:00No, we did not do it.

10:02The world is telling you.

10:04The world is ranking you.

10:06Then stop it.

10:08This is our question too.

10:10Stop putting pressure.

10:12Let the judiciary decide.

10:14People should be punished.

10:16As long as there are no punishments,

10:18the PTA will continue to do politics.

10:20Let's go to the last question.

10:22Why were the judges not dismissed today?

10:24I think they have sent them

10:26to the legal committee.

10:28They will not step back?

10:30No, they will not step back.

10:32If they get endorsement from the party,

10:34then it will happen.

10:36If they get endorsement from the coalition,

10:38then it will happen.

10:40Let's take a break.

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