• 4 months ago
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00:00I totally disagree with you.
00:03Thank you so much.
00:05First of all, you should thank me and then proceed.
00:09Thank you very much.
00:10Last time, all three of you agreed.
00:12If PMLN wanted all this, then what was the fight in 2016-17?
00:18What was it all about?
00:20First, they wrote a complaint.
00:22The government went.
00:23The elections were lost.
00:24They went to jails.
00:25Cases were filed.
00:26And if they wanted to do the same, they could have done it in 2017.
00:30If there was a Don Leaks, why was it a Don Leaks?
00:33What was the reason?
00:34There was nothing about it.
00:36The thing is, you always have a choice.
00:39Everyone has a choice.
00:41Do you succeed by doing two things?
00:43Or do you succeed by following good principles?
00:46What is the choice?
00:47The way you came to power, you are saying you have everything.
00:52You already had that choice.
00:55But why did you not exercise that choice?
00:57Why did you get rid of Ghulam Ishaq in 1993?
01:00You had a choice.
01:01Ghulam Ishaq was telling you not to get rid of him.
01:04Why did you get rid of Musharraf in 1999?
01:06And you got a military rule.
01:08You did one policy for 30 years.
01:10The policy of civilian abuse.
01:12Now you have come and said, no, no, sorry.
01:14Now we have to do power politics.
01:16And whatever it takes to gain power.
01:19But please understand,
01:20PMLN is not just about Mian Nawaz Sharif or Shibaz Sharif or Maryam Nawaz.
01:25PMLN has to survive also in the long run.
01:28So if there is democratic principle in Pakistan,
01:32and democracy prevails,
01:34then there will be no future for PMLN.
01:36Yes, if by doing such things,
01:39you again came to power with 17-20 votes,
01:42anyone can come.
01:44So according to that, I cannot argue with you.
01:47I cannot argue with you.
01:48Is this the only purpose?
01:50That you have to come to power?
01:51Or the purpose is that you have done the right politics,
01:56which is written in the Pakistan law,
01:58about civilian abuse.
02:00Otherwise, you got everyone beaten for 6-4 years.
02:04People like us were also crying.
02:07So we would have been in the government.
02:09Very easily in 2018, if you had compromised.
02:12So you did not compromise for the right reasons.
02:15Mr. Zubair will understand.
02:17No, no, he won't understand.
02:18No, he understood.
02:19Look, there are two votes now.
02:20I have got one vote.
02:21You are saying that politics is just about becoming a president.
02:24Politics is not just about this.
02:26Politics is about winning the next election.
02:29It is about popularity also,
02:31that you remain relevant with your politics.
02:34Don't become irrelevant by doing your politics.
02:36That's what good politics is.
02:37In your opinion, good politics is that I get four positions.
02:40I think if a political party remains relevant with its decisions,
02:45and remains in contention for the next election,
02:47that if it wins, it will get these positions anyway.
02:50You can take this guarantee.
02:52With a lot of respect.
02:5320 seconds, 20 seconds, and then 30 seconds.
02:55With a lot of respect from you and Mr. Zubair,
03:00after the 2013 elections,
03:02when I met Mr. Zubair for the first time,
03:04he was the chairman of the board of investment.
03:06He was very excited, we have to do this, we have to do that.
03:08He started doing something,
03:09and then he was taken to privatization.
03:11He did a very good privatization there,
03:14and the rest of the shareholders were finalized.
03:17Then PM Allen came and said,
03:19what kind of a person is he?
03:20He doesn't know how to work.
03:21We know how to do something else.
03:23He was removed again.
03:24He did all the work and went back.
03:26Mr. Zubair is an innocent man.
03:27Now he has come to know that PM Allen has done power politics.
03:30Those who know PM Allen,
03:32They say it's okay, but why do they fight?
03:34Listen, Mr. Abbasi.
03:36From 1990 onwards,
03:38whoever knows Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
03:41he has always done power politics.
03:43When did you feel that he has taken the flag of democracy here?
03:46He has taken the flag of votes.
03:49He has always done power politics.
03:51Sometimes he fails, sometimes he succeeds.
03:55But majority...
03:56I am talking about PTI politics.
03:57He has done a very good thing.
03:58He always takes good deals.
03:59He has been very successful.

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