Balochistan Maamla Par PTI Aur Noon League Aik. ..? PTI Aur Leaguei Rehnumao Ka Rad E Amal
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00:00But it's smartly, you add to it, but it's very smartly at this time,
00:04there's a propaganda machine of it, there's a terrorism machine of it, and...
00:08Look, hold on, hold on, I'm telling you, look at the history, look at the history of terrorism,
00:14you have to address it, you go and see how the IRA, how the IRA was,
00:19it was a 100 year history, they fought with the British.
00:23Look, the thing is, when they came here,
00:29Let's talk about the future as well.
00:31But let me clear this point, look,
00:33here, especially the people of Punjab, they have been hosted here,
00:38they have been taken care of, listen to my request, look, we are a community,
00:42I think Sindhi, Pashtun, Baloch, Punjabi, they have been taken care of.
00:45I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about, forget about that,
00:48I'm not talking about, I'm talking about the federal government.
00:51I'll come to that as well.
00:52They have been kept here, the civil society here has supported them,
00:56some people wanted to stop them from coming,
00:58there were a lot of people in the government, we weren't in the government at that time,
01:01but I raised my voice for them,
01:02that no, those women are coming from Turbat, they are refugees, don't do anything to them,
01:06because look, we have a relationship with the Balochs.
01:08I'm just waiting for them to condemn this.
01:10No, no, listen to my request, look, we have a relationship with the people of Balochistan,
01:14they were all watching what would happen here.
01:16We have to kill the cancer cell,
01:19we have to, I mean, we have to...
01:22We don't have to do the amputation.
01:23Yes, yes, we don't have to do that, we don't have to do the cancer cell.
01:26So what are you going to do now, Mr. Sahil, to end the cancer cell?
01:28Well, there will be an operation now, you'll see.
01:30Will there be a new operation, or will the Interior Minister say that it's the SHO's doing?
01:36He doesn't understand what's happening, as simple as that.
01:39He doesn't have the capacity to understand how big a problem this is.
01:42Look, the intelligence agencies have reports on this,
01:47where they move from, where they come from, where they go,
01:50and now, of course, the operations will be based on that intel,
01:55and the people who are involved in this, of course, against them.
01:57And look, according to Islam, according to the law, and according to morality,
02:03if someone shoots you, it's your individual right,
02:07and it's the right of the nation to respond to that,
02:11otherwise it will become a joke.
02:13No, it's your right, it's not like you're trying to save someone's life.
02:16Surah Baqarah, number 192, 183.
02:19You can't just go and do whatever you want,
02:21and I'm sure most of the people in Balochistan will be upset with them,
02:26because they haven't done anything wrong.
02:28Let me tell you, my family, and Senator Humayun,
02:31my in-laws are from Balochistan,
02:34no one supports this thing.
02:36No one will.
02:37The thing they're showing, no one will support it.
02:39No one will.
02:41Tell me one thing, if there's a person in any neighborhood who's as mischievous as he is,
02:45no one likes him.
02:46Are you unanimous on this matter?
02:48Can we say that?
02:49We're unanimous.
02:51Look, nobody is there to defend them.
02:54Nobody is there to defend them.
02:56It's just possible that I...
02:58For a unanimous resolution, I mean, Parliament...
03:00Look, it's possible that my way of solving the problem is different from yours,
03:07but you have to solve that problem.
03:08But look, let me tell you one thing,
03:10now this is one thing, this is a very big thing, right?
03:12Tell me one thing,
03:13let's say there's a border and everything,
03:16and we're in the middle of three provinces and there's a place called Kacche ke Daku,
03:20and everything is there,
03:23we can't even address that place.
03:25And your video of Kacche ke Daku has been recently given,
03:27that they're calling and saying,
03:29brother, you've done this and that in our name.
03:31Plus, they say that we don't have a weapon factory here,
03:35who's giving us weapons?
03:36The police is giving us weapons.
03:38The problem is that we also have a lot of problems inside us.
03:41Black sheep are the most...
03:42Not black sheep, inside us, there are two things,
03:45black sheep are in their place.
03:47Inside us, there's a very big problem,
03:53and that is that we're dishonest people.
03:55We're ready to do anything for money.
03:57What do you mean, they're giving us weapons?
03:59On what basis are they giving us weapons?
04:00On what basis are they giving us weapons?
04:01First of all, what Senator Mayur said,
04:03that dishonesty and greed for money,
04:06they just go away, they just go away, that's number one.
04:09Number two,
04:10because you're doing a legal protest,
04:13on Private Member Day as well,
04:15we've seen two protests,
04:17how long is the list? We don't know about that.
04:19Should we take a resolution that's unanimous,
04:21against terrorism?
04:23Against this mass murder?
04:25Those children whose father was kidnapped and martyred,
04:30those children are asking, where is our father?
04:31Look, the House was almost unanimous today.
04:35There's no resolution?
04:36There was no resolution, but the House was unanimous,
04:38in condemning this.
04:40Some people, in fact, some people,
04:42the Senators of Balochistan,
04:43said that we're ashamed of what happened.
04:46And this is weakening loyalty,
04:48and we need to address this issue.
04:51Look, we need to look at this
04:55at both a macro and micro level.
04:57We're seeing the impact of what's happening in our region.
05:00And we need to strengthen our defense as well.
05:03And if someone says,
05:06openly that they don't believe in Pakistan,
05:07and that we're going to fight arms,
05:09then there's no other way for you.
05:12There is no other way for you.
05:14Who are you supporting?
05:15You've seen so many videos on social media.
05:18These are videos of the BLA.
05:20They're saying, we won't let Pakistan become a CPEC.
05:24Look, what's the problem? It's a CPEC.
05:26The problem is with the uplift of the Baloch people.
05:28They don't want that to happen.
05:29The uplift of the Baloch people will happen
05:31only when there's a CPEC,
05:33when there's development, when there's money.
05:35They don't want that.
05:36They keep getting money.
05:37Sir Faraz Bagalzai said this in my program,
05:39that money is coming in from outside.
05:41And on that basis, the innocent Baloch people are killed.
05:43And there, they disown them.
05:45And then it's said that the agencies killed them.
05:47And there, not just the Punjabis,
05:50they killed the Baloch people as well.
05:52They killed a Baloch teacher.
05:55The voice that is raised against them,
05:57they kill it.
05:58Sir, I only have two minutes left.
06:01Why does Barrister Gauhar have to come again and again
06:03and say that we don't have a forward block,
06:06that we don't have a break-up?
06:09If there's no break-up, then it's visible.
06:12If there's a break-up, then the RFLB has to make a committee
06:15and then come and give clarifications.
06:17Look, this is how it is.
06:19Problems.
06:20In every political party, there's a difference of opinion.
06:24They need to say that a PMLN minister or an advisor
06:30comes and gives a speech that they have a forward block.
06:36The forward block is because, if you look at it,
06:40the politics of Chhanga Manga has never left their minds.
06:43You're saying that they approached you?
06:44No, no, no, I'm just saying.
06:46The forward block started with Chhanga Manga.
06:48Yes, but Chhanga Manga was also approached.
06:50That was the start of it.
06:52Now, I'm sure they must have done it.
06:54I'm sure they must have done it forcefully or with money
06:57or they must have done something else.
06:58Did any of your associates tell you, Mr. Senator,
07:00that we were approached by the PMLN or the People's Party?
07:02Look, there's pressure from the People's Party.
07:05I don't know about the People's Party,
07:07but I'm sure there's pressure from them.
07:10Now, let me tell you.
07:11As of today, to the best of my knowledge,
07:15everybody in Pakistan, Tariq-e-Insaf,
07:17until proven otherwise, is standing in their place.
07:21Mr. Senator.
07:21I'll just say one thing.
07:23When the Muslim League came into power in 2013,
07:26the situation in Balochistan was even worse.
07:28But there, Mian Nawaz Sharif, along with Baloch Nationalist leaders,
07:32and Dr. Abdul Malik Baloch, formed a government.
07:35And they were told to address the issues.
07:39They did it.
07:40But there was a lot of work done by Mr. Nawaz Sharif and Dr. Abdul Malik.
07:45No, no, look at the situation in the province.
07:47The situation in the province has improved immediately.
07:49This is what the government has done.
07:51Tell me, have you approached any of their members?
07:54Or have they come to us?
07:55No, we haven't approached them in a way that they've come to us.
07:57But look, the legislation...
07:58You haven't approached them in a way that they've come to you?
07:59No, no, the legislation...
08:00If there's legislation, we can tell them to look at it.
08:05They'll never tell me.
08:07Who are you going to tell, sir?
08:09Who are you going to tell, sir?
08:10There's vulnerability.
08:12What have these people done?
08:15Let me tell you.
08:17There are three things.
08:18One is the Constitutional Amendment.
08:19One is the Prime Minister's election.
08:23And the third is the money bail.
08:26You can vote on any of these three, right?
08:29You can't vote on any of these three, right?
08:31If you change the party line, you can't vote on any of these three.
08:32So you're approaching them?
08:33No, I'm not approaching them.
08:34We're telling them we'll bring in legislation.
08:36We're not giving anyone money.
08:39We're convincing them.
08:40No, we can tell them to vote for us to convince them.
08:42NSA, NSA, NSA, NSA, NSA.
08:45You used to do it, too.
08:45You used to beat us up.
08:47You forgot?
08:49So you're beating them up?
08:51We're not beating them up, we're convincing them.
08:52Look, first of all,
08:54we all know that there's no convincing.
08:56We all know that all of this...
08:57Look, the way this is happening is wrong.
09:02We'll talk about the way, Senator.
09:03In everything, unfortunately...
09:05Look, why do we say our country is being destroyed?
09:08Our country is being destroyed exactly because
09:10no matter which government comes in,
09:12they're doing everything wrong for their government.
09:16You've made this very interesting.
09:17No matter which government comes in,
09:18they're doing everything wrong for their government.
09:20They are.
09:21This is also called a statement.
09:23Let me take a break.
09:24Senator Humayun, Senator Afnan, thank you very much.
09:26It was a pleasure having you.