Will PTI be able to hold a public gathering??

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00:00We have with us Mr. Hassan Ayyub.

00:02Mr. Hassan Ayyub, today's statement of Mr. Shaukat Yusuf Zaheer on the matter of Aleema Khan

00:07that he will not act on anything.

00:09Then the other, Ali Muhammad Khan was with us, so he said that the point of view he keeps

00:14because she is a sister, as a sister, she obviously has a relationship of love, so that's why she does it.

00:20But party decisions are different.

00:22And party decisions are made through the consultation of Bani PTI.

00:25It was about the approval of the Jalsa.

00:27What is your point of view on this, that what differences are going on and is Aleema Khan

00:32motivated to control the party or is it some other matter?

00:37Look, the thing is that Aleema Khan has always been a well-wisher of Bani Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaab.

00:43The people who misguide or mislead the party and take personal advantage of it,

00:49they have always been able to learn from it.

00:52In the 2013 elections, I remember that Hina Manzoor Sahiba,

00:56who was in the circle of Rawalpindi at that time, NA54,

01:00she contested against Malik Ebrar Sahib and even her own polling agents were not present.

01:05When she lost the election on this, I still remember that when Imran Khan was injured in Shaukat Khanab Hospital,

01:12I went to his hospital for his treatment.

01:15I saw that Aleema Khan Sahiba had taken a good class of Hina Manzoor Sahiba.

01:21So, there is a tradition going on from the beginning that Aleema Khan Sahiba is not a part of the party,

01:27but she does not detach herself from Imran Khan.

01:30So, the Jalsa that got cancelled this time as well,

01:33it was the wish of the people of the party, especially Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib,

01:38he did not want this Jalsa to happen because he had to come to Islamabad and he knows

01:43that maybe he will not cross the Attock Bridge and if he comes to attack Islamabad,

01:48then maybe his government will not be able to survive.

01:50But I was watching yesterday's interview,

01:55I think they gave an interview to Duniya TV and gave a big statement.

01:58They say that the Jalsa that is going to happen on 8th September,

02:02if it does not happen, then they will leave politics.

02:05This is what they have stated.

02:07They have stated this before as well that they will leave politics.

02:11This was their announcement for the Jalsa on 22nd August.

02:15They did not leave politics.

02:16The statements of these politicians are basically to warm the blood of their workers.

02:23They do not have to do this.

02:25So, Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib basically said that why did Azam Swati go with Minister Gohar?

02:31Because Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib could not go himself.

02:35He had given such big statements.

02:38He said that the turban I am wearing on my head is my shroud.

02:42So, what did he do with the shroud?

02:44So, you will wear the shroud again.

02:46But Ali Ameen Gandapur Sahib was asked that the white turban you were wearing earlier,

02:50you had declared it as your shroud.

02:52So, the Jalsa did not take place.

02:54Then you said that the Jalsa will take place at any cost.

02:56The Jalsa will take place at the cost of the people.

02:58So, the biggest weakness of the leaders of Pakistani justice is that they have made big promises.

03:04See, he did not make a promise on anyone's behalf, he made a promise on Bani's behalf.

03:09So, Bani said that he took off the shroud, now he will wear it again.

03:13You tell me, Ishfaq Bhai, did Bani Chairman contact Ali Ameen Gandapur from the jail?

03:20Or did these people contact Bani Chairman from the jail?

03:24These people contacted, right?

03:26When these people contacted, they said that these are the circumstances,

03:29regarding Khatm-e-Nabut, a lot of scholars, there is a case in the Supreme Court,

03:34they have already entered the red zone.

03:37Now what should we do?

03:38So, they said, then cancel the Jalsa.

03:41Although, where is the Supreme Court and where is the position of Tannol?

03:44That is, the distance of at least 40 minutes,

03:47there is definitely the territory of Islamabad,

03:51but that is the border area of Islamabad.

03:53And the red zone is further ahead of Zero Point, it is also ahead of the heart of Islamabad.

03:58Now Islamabad has also become so vast, Hassan Ayub,

04:02that at one time it used to start from Zero Point,

04:04so now the demography of Islamabad has changed.

04:07I wanted to know one thing, what is the situation with the Lahore Jalsa?

04:11What is the information about it?

04:12Is it happening or not? Is there confusion? What is it?

04:15Look, they are definitely announcing that we will hold the Jalsa,

04:18but no one is allowing them to hold the Jalsa.

04:21Maybe they can hold the Jalsa in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

04:25but if you think that they will be allowed to assemble in Lahore or Islamabad,

04:30then I do not see it as possible.

04:34Because as long as Imran Khan Sahib does not make a public apology on 9th May,

04:40this Jamaat will not be allowed to assemble in any other province than Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

04:46because there is their own government there.

04:48So what is the point in announcing this?

04:51On one hand, they say that if we cancel it now,

04:53as they were saying last time, our worker will be very disheartened.

04:57So why is this announcement being made,

04:59if the party is not on board to hold the Jalsa or not?

05:05No, the party is on board.

05:06The party is going to hold the Jalsa.

05:08The governments will not allow them to hold the Jalsa.

05:11They will not allow them to assemble.

05:14And that is why, look, until they do not make a public apology on 9th May,

05:19that we have made a mistake,

05:20and we have attacked the state,

05:23we will not confess to this crime,

05:25until then, they will not be allowed to assemble or hold a public gathering.

05:30Did they have any permission in the elections?

05:33Did you see a Jalsa of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf in any other province other than Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?

05:44So basically, they do not have any permission.

05:47Nor will they be allowed to hold a Jalsa.

05:48If they try to hold a Jalsa,

05:50then there will be a clash between them and the police.

05:53So, you are saying that this will happen on 8th September as well?

05:56Yes, there will be a Jalsa on 8th September as well.

05:58At least, it is not visible in Islamabad.

06:00And look, if we talk about the Jalsa in Islamabad,

06:04there were no preparations.

06:05It is a ground of five canals.

06:07There was no stage, no chairs, no lights,

06:11nor did the sound system reach there.

06:13So, in such a situation, how can there be a Jalsa?

06:15The preparations start a day or two before the Jalsa.

06:18And especially, the Jalsas of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf that we have covered in the past,

06:22the face-painting people reach there.

06:25The people who sell various things reach there.

06:29And there is a gathering and a Jalsa.

06:32But this time, there was nothing there.

06:33There was a ground.

06:35There were containers around the ground.

06:37And the police and the administration used to dig there.

06:41So, these people did not reach there.

06:43This time, what will happen at the Jalsa on 8th September?

06:46At least, I have seen a Jalsa.

06:49Let's go.

06:49Hassan, thank you so much.

06:50Hassan, what do you think can happen at the Jalsa on 8th September?

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