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Parliament kay samne SC Ko sar e tasleem kham karna hoga ya wo apne hi Faislay Par Nazarsani Karlen
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8/6/2024
Parliament kay samne SC Ko sar e tasleem kham karna hoga ya wo apne hi Faislay Par Nazarsani Karlen
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00:00
I will come to you Mr. Chaudhary Gulamshahan.
00:02
It is obvious that Mr. Kamal Dalshad has passed a law from the parliament.
00:10
So, the fight has already started.
00:12
On one side is the parliament and on the other is the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
00:15
Mr. Kamal Dalshad is saying that after the change in the Election Act,
00:20
the decision of the Supreme Court will not be followed.
00:24
Mr. Chaudhary, the question that arises here,
00:26
like you asked Mr. Kamal Dalshad, he is saying that the fight will continue.
00:29
It is a matter of 77 seats.
00:31
Now, where will they go?
00:33
Because you cannot keep the parliament incomplete.
00:37
This is also mentioned in Article 53 of the Constitution.
00:39
It is very clear.
00:41
So, what will happen?
00:43
Mr. Chaudhary.
00:45
You are asking me what will happen?
00:47
I am asking you Mr. Chaudhary.
00:49
I am saying that there will be new elections in the country.
00:51
Mr. Chaudhary, your opinion has come forward.
00:53
Mr. Nagvi, what is your opinion?
00:56
Look, if we take its answer in one sentence,
00:58
then it is that these seats are not of the ruling party.
01:02
But now when the disease increases,
01:04
then the diagnosis of the disease is done from the very beginning.
01:07
It is done in the basics.
01:09
Now, where did this disease start from?
01:11
You were told to have an intra-party election.
01:13
You did not do it.
01:15
You did it, so it was a doubtful election,
01:17
which the Election Commission refused to accept.
01:20
Come on, this is over.
01:21
Now you have come to the assembly and you had a very open option.
01:24
You even announced that we are going with Majlis-e-Wahidat-e-Muslimeen.
01:28
While going with Majlis-e-Wahidat-e-Muslimeen,
01:31
you took a turn and went with a group
01:33
which did not have a single seat in the National Assembly.
01:36
When it did not have a seat, then you did not get a specific seat.
01:39
Now, what happened thirdly is that the Supreme Court gave a decision.
01:42
Absolutely, the Supreme Court has the right.
01:44
But those against whom the decision comes,
01:46
they also have the right to go for a review, to go for an appeal.
01:49
They filed a review.
01:50
The Supreme Court said that we are going on holidays.
01:53
When we come after the holidays, then we will see what to do.
01:56
So now when they have gone on two-month holidays,
01:58
it is obvious that the Parliament is finding its way.
02:01
And the Parliament has found its way to this extent
02:03
that a new legislation is being made.
02:05
And this is the power of the Parliament,
02:07
on which you can doubt their intentions,
02:09
on which you can sit in the drawing rooms and ask questions,
02:13
but you cannot legally challenge it.
02:16
Hassan, now it is obvious that there has been a fight.
02:21
Not less than Khwaja Asif and the government.
02:38
I will come to you, Mr. Chaudhary.
02:39
I will answer your question.
02:41
Some people think that we are heading towards,
02:43
as Khwaja Asif has said,
02:45
the constitutional meltdown.
02:48
It is obvious that a situation has developed,
02:51
which is in line with your opinion,
02:54
that after this act of the Parliament,
02:56
the decision of the Supreme Court is part of the dustbin.
03:00
No, no, no.
03:01
I am saying that this is not my point of view.
03:04
My point of view is that when the ECP has not misinterpreted,
03:07
the decision of the Supreme Court on 13th January,
03:10
then the Supreme Court's decision based on that,
03:13
is not the right decision.
03:15
This is my point of view.
03:16
This is my point of view.
03:17
I have never said that...
03:18
What is the justification for his explanation?
03:20
The justification for his explanation was that
03:24
the decision was made in 208,
03:26
that the elections should not be held under 208.
03:30
Now, when the elections were not accepted by the ECP,
03:34
the party could not get a uniform symbol.
03:37
We do not waste time on this.
03:39
Now, 11 judges are saying this,
03:41
including the Chief Justice of Pakistan,
03:43
with whose decision you are not in agreement,
03:45
that the ECP has misinterpreted our decision.
03:48
Now, 11 judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan are saying this.
03:51
I am asking you, what is the solution?
03:53
These 8 judges have made one more mistake.
03:56
Judge sir, hold on.
03:57
These judges have made one more mistake.
03:58
What is the solution?
03:59
I will tell you one more mistake.
04:00
See, the practice and procedure act,
04:03
the law says that when a review file is filed,
04:06
you have to fix it within 14 days.
04:08
The mistake has been made.
04:09
Now, they are not fixing it within 14 days.
04:10
The judges are saying that we are on leave.
04:11
What is the solution?
04:12
Now, the solution is,
04:13
just like in Panama,
04:15
Nawaz Sharif sir was punished
04:17
by insisting on NAB ordinance,
04:21
that too was retrospective.
04:23
Okay?
04:24
That was not the case at that time.
04:25
The old case was divorced and he was punished.
04:27
In the same way, the new law has been made.
04:29
It will be retrospective.
04:31
Now, the solution is that
04:33
the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:34
will have to bow down in front of the Parliament.
04:36
There is no other option.
04:38
There is one more option.
04:39
That they review their own decision
04:41
and say that this is how they will be facilitated.
04:44
Otherwise, they have no other option.
04:46
See, the Supreme Court cannot call the Parliament
04:48
in contempt.
04:49
Mr. Chaudhary Ghamsar,
04:51
this is the whole incident.
04:53
Now, the circumstances are in front of you.
04:55
But there is no doubt in this
04:57
that in front of the Supreme Court of Pakistan's decision,
05:00
a change has been made in the law.
05:04
The fight will increase.
05:05
Now, the constitution is meltdown.
05:07
What will happen?
05:08
Hassan thinks that
05:10
the best solution is that
05:12
the Supreme Court of Pakistan
05:14
will have to bow down in front of the Parliament.
05:16
Most of the judges say that
05:18
since a change has been made in the law,
05:20
they will review their own decision.
05:22
Now, which decision will be finalized?
05:24
There is a debate on this.
05:26
What is your opinion on this?
05:28
First of all, I will give three small answers.
05:32
Mr. Khawar Ghumman's knowledge
05:34
on the constitution,
05:36
law, practice,
05:38
and circumstances
05:40
is better than 11 judges.
05:42
And Mr. Khawar Ghumman is an authority.
05:44
And those 11 judges
05:46
neither know about the law,
05:48
nor do they know about the election laws.
05:50
They don't know where they came from
05:52
at night and they are sitting.
05:54
So, first of all,
05:56
you give me this answer.
05:58
You have to give it, no one else.
06:00
Number two.
06:02
Tell me this.
06:04
The Supreme Court is saying that
06:06
you robbed a party.
06:08
You snatched their symbol.
06:10
After that,
06:12
you didn't restrict the election commission.
06:14
You didn't say,
06:16
you don't give this to them.
06:18
They are open
06:20
and go and get another symbol.
06:22
They cannot be stopped
06:24
from the election.
06:26
You didn't do that.
06:28
You left that way.
06:30
The election commission is already
06:32
in debt.
06:34
When the Supreme Court
06:36
came to the conclusion
06:38
that the election commission
06:40
made a decision based on politics
06:42
and made arbitrary
06:44
interpretations,
06:46
a party, which is the biggest party
06:48
of Pakistan,
06:50
which cannot be disputed today.
06:52
Some people
06:54
are on Twitter.
06:56
We also read their tweets.
06:58
We are very happy to see them.
07:00
But this is not correct.
07:02
They are also abusing.
07:04
I don't know what they are doing.
07:06
God will ask them.
07:10
They are using
07:12
a very bad language.
07:14
Hassan said not to take social media
07:16
too seriously.
07:18
The Supreme Court has held
07:20
that PTI was wronged by the election commission
07:22
by misinterpreting
07:24
the judgment of the Supreme Court.
07:26
And because of that,
07:28
the Supreme Court gave seats to PTI
07:30
and Party.
07:32
If you have any objection to this,
07:34
please clarify.
08:00
PTI was not eligible
08:02
by the election commission
08:04
to participate in the elections.
08:06
Now these people are standing
08:08
on the assembly floor and saying
08:10
that our Prime Minister is Imran Khan.
08:12
Now they go to the Supreme Court
08:14
tomorrow and say that
08:16
Imran Khan is our Prime Minister
08:18
and the Supreme Court decides
08:20
to bring Imran Khan to the assembly
08:22
because there was a vote on his name
08:24
and they should take a vote from him.
08:26
So what will they do?
08:28
Judges have taken the decision
08:30
according to the law and the constitution.
08:32
Now a new law has been made.
08:34
How can they go beyond this law?
08:36
The practice and procedure act
08:38
in which the rights of the Chief Justice
08:40
have been curtailed,
08:42
will go to a committee.
08:44
That is also a law.
08:46
And as per the law,
08:48
the Chief Justice is defeated
08:50
on several occasions.
08:52
So the Chief Justice is also
08:54
bowing down to the existing law.
08:56
Judges should bow down to the law
08:58
because their constitution says
09:00
that you have decided according
09:02
to the law and constitution.
09:04
The law is supreme.
09:06
Judges are not supreme.
09:08
Ladies and gentlemen,
09:10
the fight that is taking place
09:12
in the country right now,
09:14
the majority of the people
09:16
of Pakistan know that
09:18
this fight is not for the welfare
09:20
of the people.
09:22
This is power politics.
09:24
As you can see,
09:26
there is no discussion on this issue.
09:28
The incidents that took place
09:30
in Bangladesh,
09:32
the opinion of the people
09:34
was not being heard.
09:36
People were repeatedly
09:38
calling for our rights.
09:40
When this was not heard,
09:42
the incidents that took place
09:44
are in front of everyone.
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