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" Is Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Pakistani Siyasat Ke Arshad Nadeem Banay Hue Hain, Hadar Naqvi
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9/18/2024
" Is Waqt Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Pakistani Siyasat Ke Arshad Nadeem Banay Hue Hain, Hadar Naqvi
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00:00
At this time, we have completely disposed of their documents.
00:04
In fact, to say that we don't have any documents,
00:09
then what was provided?
00:12
What was provided to someone, what was not provided to someone, what was this game?
00:17
But whatever was handed over to us and we have studied it,
00:23
then by studying it, we could not accept it in any way, in any way.
00:32
It could not have been more treacherous in the trust of the nation and the country,
00:38
if we had cleaned it.
00:40
Absolutely, he is saying that if we had done this,
00:43
then it would have been a great injustice to the nation.
00:46
Now, Bilawal Sahib said last night that there is a possibility
00:50
that we and Maulana Sahib together should prepare a joint resolution
00:56
or make an agreement among ourselves,
00:59
then we will be in a position to pass it with two-thirds majority.
01:04
Pakistan People's Party and Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman Sahib's Jamaat,
01:07
which came out with EY,
01:09
the original draft of Pakistan People's Party, which we have prepared,
01:15
with reference to the Constitutional Court,
01:19
for implementing the Charter of Democracy,
01:22
we will put that in front of the JUI,
01:25
and the JUI is now working on its own draft as well,
01:29
so if we can make a consensus document between our two drafts,
01:34
then perhaps it will be easier for us to cross that two-thirds majority.
01:40
But along with this, Kamran Murtaza from the JUIF is also demanding
01:45
that if you have an official document,
01:48
then share it with the Bar Councils and get feedback from them.
01:52
The actual official document should be brought forward,
01:56
we will debate on that official document,
01:59
we are not the only ones who want to debate on it,
02:02
I want you to send it to the Bar Councils,
02:05
send it to the Bar Associations,
02:07
and publish it for the general public.
02:12
Mr. Nagri, you have been circling us for the past 2-3 days,
02:16
not sharing any news with us.
02:18
You said earlier that there was no reform,
02:22
and that it was all in the air,
02:25
but after the fair in Islamabad, everyone came.
02:30
Now you are saying that nothing will happen,
02:33
you are saying that there is no reform,
02:36
and eventually nothing will happen.
02:38
Now what is the news?
02:40
You feel that the People's Party,
02:42
Bilawal Bhutto Zardari Sahib,
02:44
went on our channel and a couple of other channels,
02:47
he talked about what is going to happen,
02:49
we will do it.
02:50
So when will this happen, how will it happen?
02:52
Or do you feel that it was just like that,
02:54
that we had to divert our attention from somewhere,
02:57
or you are saying that we had to end the story of the person in jail,
03:02
I can see that.
03:04
First of all, let me say one thing,
03:06
Maulana Sahib has become the Arshad Nadeem of Pakistan's politics.
03:10
Everyone wants to take a picture with him,
03:12
meet him, invite him to dinner,
03:14
invite him to dinner, talk to him.
03:16
So what was happening with Arshad Nadeem the other day,
03:19
the whole of Pakistan, big people were behind him.
03:21
Anyway, you talked about Bilawal Bhutto Sahib,
03:24
or the reform, now all this happened.
03:27
You said that you called everyone,
03:29
you even called the National Assembly for a meeting,
03:31
and so much is happening.
03:33
Now what will come out of this?
03:35
Now no big reform will come out of this.
03:37
Like we were talking about the age of 68,
03:39
no such reform will come out.
03:41
We were talking about controlling the Supreme Court,
03:43
no such reform will come out.
03:45
We were talking about giving an extension to any official,
03:47
no such reform will come out.
03:49
But a lot of small legislations will come out,
03:52
and this will be their face-saving
03:54
that we had to do this reform.
03:56
Bilawal Sahib said that we will keep our constitution,
03:59
Maulana Sahib will keep it, others will keep it,
04:01
and then we will move forward on the consensus.
04:04
So these will be small reforms,
04:06
and it is the Parliament's job to make small reforms,
04:08
to make laws, and in the same way
04:10
their face-saving will happen,
04:12
in the same way the Parliament will be executed,
04:14
and it will be said again that the reform
04:16
has been passed, and this will be passed.
04:18
And what you said about Adiala,
04:20
now the statements have been changed.
04:22
Now under PTI,
04:24
the opposition leader,
04:26
who had the power, has left.
04:28
Now it is too late for that.
04:30
Now you cannot control this damage.
04:32
You can try a lot, but you cannot.
04:34
Maulana Fazlur Rahman has snatched
04:36
that driving seat from you.
04:38
And now he will stay on the driving seat for a long time.
04:40
Until this reform will continue,
04:42
until further opposition,
04:44
you will see that Maulana Fazlur Rahman
04:46
will do even more opposition.
04:48
Now not only will the reform be limited,
04:50
now you will see some statements from him
04:52
that he has become a very powerful opposition leader
04:54
of Pakistan.
04:56
Now the land of opposition has left
04:58
under PTI.
05:00
I am telling you based on my observation.
05:02
Mr. Chaudhary,
05:04
you are definitely not agreeing
05:06
with Mr. Nagvi.
05:08
No, I agree 100%.
05:10
No, no, 200%.
05:12
The statements that all three of you have given
05:14
have ended.
05:16
Now you are saying
05:18
that there was no reform.
05:20
So that day you were saying
05:22
that I am going for a walk for an hour.
05:24
After that the reform will come
05:26
and spread.
05:28
So who informed them?
05:30
I said that milk and water will become water.
05:32
You listen to the video, what I said.
05:34
Milk and water will become water.
05:36
Mr. Nagvi, leave this.
05:38
I am happy that Mr. Chaudhary
05:40
follows you so much.
05:42
Mr. Chaudhary, the question
05:44
is basically that
05:46
Mr. Nagvi is saying that some small actions
05:48
will be taken.
05:50
No, I am not in this.
05:52
The main thing he said yesterday
05:54
in a big interview
05:56
of Wasim Badami
05:58
that Mansoor Ali Shah
06:00
will be the Chief Justice
06:02
and there is no doubt
06:04
about it.
06:06
You don't bring that out.
06:08
I said this.
06:10
Mr. Nagvi,
06:12
Mr. Chaudhary,
06:14
but you have not listened carefully.
06:16
Our researcher, Mr. Sarish
06:18
has listened very carefully.
06:20
He said that the Chief Justice
06:22
is the Supreme Court.
06:24
So when the Supreme Court
06:26
and the Constitutional Court separate,
06:28
the Constitutional Court will rise
06:30
and the Supreme Court will fall.
06:32
No, I mean
06:34
the government plan that came in front of us
06:36
is what we have been
06:38
discussing for the last 3-4 days.
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