Fox Reporter Jacqui Heinrich Grills Karine Jean-Pierre On President Biden's Supreme Court Reforms
At a White House press briefing on Tuesday, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was asked about the Supreme Court reforms proposed by President Biden.
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00:00Thank you, Karine.
00:02Is this Supreme Court proposal just an election-year gambit?
00:07I will say this.
00:10I think if you read the Washington Post op-ed
00:13that the President put out yesterday,
00:14if you listen to his speech,
00:16he was reacting to what SCOTUS has been doing over the past —
00:21not just past couple of weeks,
00:22but certainly in the last two years, starting from Dobbs
00:24and so many other important decisions
00:27that have come out of the Supreme Court.
00:31The Dobbs decision certainly was something
00:34that we talked about just two years ago,
00:35and he had a commission to take a look at the Supreme Court.
00:40He certainly appreciated the commission
00:41and what they did and the work that they've done.
00:44But when you have, you know, a Supreme Court —
00:46and the President actually gave examples, right,
00:50of what the decision of immunity that they made recently,
00:55what that means for the President of the United States.
00:57You know? And what we're seeing right now is not normal.
01:01And majority of Americans agree with us, right?
01:03What we're seeing that the Supreme Court is not normal.
01:07And the President spoke to that at length.
01:09He went to the LBJ Library
01:12because of the historic nature of that library,
01:15the 60th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act.
01:18And there's so much here that's at stake.
01:21And so that's why he wanted to do this.
01:24This is about the right thing to do.
01:26This is about meeting the moment that we're in.
01:28This is about reacting to what the SCOTUS did.
01:32He said in his op-ed,
01:33American democracy is founded on the rule of law.
01:36No one, not the President, not the Supreme Court,
01:38are above the law.
01:40And in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling, for example,
01:45it grants presidents immunity for crimes committed in office
01:48and gut fundamental freedoms
01:49recognized for more than 50 years.
01:52And so he wanted to take action on that.
01:54And, you know.
01:55But why would he not then read in top Democrats,
01:59including the Senate Judiciary Chair, about this effort?
02:03Here's the thing.
02:04Majority of Americans want to see this.
02:08They want to see some form of reform.
02:10And the President is certainly want to make sure
02:13that he is aware where majority of Americans.
02:15I will say, and I talked about this a little bit yesterday
02:18when we were in a gaggle,
02:18a range of conservative legal experts
02:21and Republican elected officials have voiced support.
02:23For example, term limits,
02:25which was part of what the President laid out yesterday.
02:28For example, last year,
02:29a bipartisan group of legal experts,
02:31including retired judges and Charles Freed,
02:34Ronald Reagan's Solicitor General,
02:35endorsed term limits for the Supreme Court.
02:37Stephen Calabresi,
02:39the Chairman of the Federalist Society
02:40who served in the administrations of Presidents Reagan
02:44and George H.W. Bush, he also endorsed term limits.
02:46You had Marco Rubio, a Senator, right now, right?
02:50A current Senator endorsed this as well,
02:52along with other congressional Republicans.
02:55So there is bipartisan support for this.
02:58I'm trying to understand how we got to this in the last week
03:02because you brought up the President's commission.
03:04His commission also found on term limits
03:07that a statutory change for term limits,
03:11for instance, would be inherently unstable,
03:14underscored constitutional doubts,
03:16said that the composition would create,
03:19generate greater uncertainty and distress.
03:20The President himself, on the campaign trail in 2020,
03:24said about term limits, the President's come and go.
03:27Supreme Court justice is safe for generations.
03:30I'm not trying to change that at all.
03:31That was two different days he spoke to this.
03:33So how did we get there?
03:36First of all, he appreciates the commission.
03:38He appreciates the work that they've done.
03:40Their job was to give the President
03:42some thoughts and ideas, and obviously the President
03:44makes the final decision on how he wants to move forward.
03:47We have to look at what the Supreme Courts have done.
03:50Wait, wait, wait, wait.
03:52You've got to let me answer the question.
03:55I'm not done. Let me finish the question.
03:57In the past several weeks, the actions
03:59that the Supreme Court has taken
04:02in undermining democracy and the rule of law,
04:06that's important.
04:07The President felt he needed to address this.
04:09Remember, we were supposed to go to LBJ Library two weeks ago,
04:13and we went two weeks ago this past Monday, yesterday.
04:17And so the President still wanted to move forward,
04:20still wanted to make sure he addressed this important issue.
04:23I mean, just the past few weeks.
04:25These past —
04:26Eliminating the filibuster, then.
04:27I mean, look, we are —
04:29he laid out the three ways that he wants to move forward.
04:32We're going to have, hopefully, a healthy debate with Congress
04:36on what this is going to look like.
04:38This is going to be legislation that we want to move forward with.
04:41And I will say this, you know,
04:45one of the reasons the President ran in 2020
04:47was because of what he saw in Charlottesville,
04:50was because of the fear of, you know,
04:53wanting to make sure that we protect the soul of our nation.
04:56That was part of it. And just look at what's happened,
04:59you know, the last several years
05:03and the actions that the Supreme Court has taken.
05:06I mean, this is a President
05:07that was on the Judiciary Committee
05:10for almost the 36 years that he was President, right?
05:13If you think —
05:13Yes on the filibuster?
05:15I actually answered this.
05:16I said, we're going to have a healthy debate with Congress
05:19on what this is going to look like.
05:20The President laid out the three ways
05:22that he sees moving forward.
05:24There's — not going to go beyond those three measures
05:26that he's laid out,
05:28but we're going to have a healthy debate,
05:29and that's what's important here.
05:31The filibuster's no question.
05:32I just said, we are going to —
05:34Well, it's a question, not a question.
05:36We welcome — we welcome a healthy debate
05:39on how to move forward.
05:40He put forth three ways to move forward on this,
05:44on really dealing with SCOTUS reform,
05:46and I just laid out some conservative legal experts
05:50who agree with us, who agree with us,
05:52at least on the term limits.
05:53They've been very clear as well.