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Oprah Winfrey, Gayle King Say They'd Admit If They Were a Gay Couple | TMZ Live
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7/26/2024
The talk show hosts sat down for an interview with Melinda Gates on her "Moments That Make Us" series ... touching on rumors the two are actually in a long-term, covert relationship.
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00:00
Oprah and Gayle not at the Olympics, not yet anyway.
00:03
Wouldn't be surprised if they pop up there at some point.
00:05
But they are addressing a long, long time rumor.
00:10
I mean, for decades now, there have been a lot of buzz
00:13
that Gayle and Oprah are more than just friends,
00:16
that they are, as we say on TMZ on TV, friends.
00:21
Yeah.
00:22
Well, they addressed it finally.
00:24
Yeah.
00:25
They were on Melinda Gates' podcast.
00:27
Which is just funny, they did it on Melinda Gates' podcast
00:29
because that's, you know, an elevated kind of thing.
00:32
Right.
00:33
But the conversation came around to the rumor
00:36
about them actually being romantically linked.
00:38
Here's how they addressed it.
00:40
The two of you have navigated these very public lives,
00:44
but you obviously have a piece of privacy in your lives, too.
00:48
And you stayed true to this friendship.
00:50
How have you navigated keeping who you are
00:53
and being a public figure?
00:55
Is this hard for you or easy?
00:57
No, I'm just trying to think how we've navigated.
01:00
I was gonna say, what have we not shared?
01:02
Okay, so you feel comfortable just sharing everything?
01:05
Pretty much.
01:06
We shared pretty much everything,
01:07
and I would have to say,
01:09
it wasn't even a matter of navigation.
01:11
Yes.
01:12
You know, for years, people used to say we were gay,
01:15
or that we were, and listen,
01:17
we were up against that forever.
01:20
No.
01:21
And people still make things.
01:22
And I used to say to Oprah,
01:22
you gotta do a show on this,
01:24
because it's hard enough for me to get a date
01:25
on Saturday night with people thinking we're gay.
01:27
Yeah.
01:29
If we were gay, we would tell you.
01:30
I love the way they said that.
01:31
But I love the way Gayle just said that.
01:34
I just, I mean, because it's so matter of fact
01:37
that, yeah, we'd tell you if we were gay.
01:39
It's not like they're hiding it.
01:40
It's not that they were ashamed of the concept of it.
01:43
But I just, I don't know,
01:44
the way they handled that, I thought was great.
01:48
Yeah.
01:49
Yeah, and also, it came off pretty believable.
01:50
And Oprah had said, like, look,
01:52
people aren't used to seeing women being super close.
01:56
And, you know, Oprah and Gayle,
01:58
they famously have gone on these amazing vacations together.
02:01
They're always laughing together.
02:03
Ah, that road trip.
02:04
Remember the road trip?
02:05
Belmond Louise.
02:06
Yes.
02:07
And they've been single.
02:08
So I think that's why people always thought, like,
02:10
oh, is this a little bit more?
02:11
Well, Oprah's not single.
02:12
No, Oprah's not single.
02:13
Oprah's not single.
02:14
Well, do we really know what Stedman's role is?
02:16
You just cut Stedman completely out of the book.
02:17
I totally cut Stedman out.
02:19
That was not fair.
02:20
That was not right.
02:21
But if you guys remember,
02:22
in 2013, Oprah actually won an Andy Cohen show,
02:25
and he asked her if she's ever dipped in the lady pond,
02:28
and she said no.
02:30
And then Andy later said that he regretted asking her that.
02:32
But she has kind of addressed this over and over the years.
02:36
Yes, the first time we've seen them together addressing it,
02:39
but they've individually.
02:41
I thought they handled it super well.
02:42
I really do.
02:44
Jasmine from Los Angeles, California.
02:46
And I don't think that Gayle and Oprah are gay.
02:51
I don't think they would admit it if they were,
02:53
because they come from a generation
02:54
where respectability politics
02:57
and traditional values are really important.
02:59
So I don't think they would be upfront in telling us.
03:02
But I also think the reason why we believe they're lesbians
03:05
is because America is wrapped up in misogyny.
03:08
We just can't believe two women could be best friends
03:10
and be that open with each other.
03:11
I think that's a fair point.
03:13
But I gotta challenge you on this,
03:15
that you think Oprah and Gayle are that close-minded
03:19
that if they were gay, they would never say it
03:21
because it might be a moral issue for them?
03:25
I think so.
03:26
I think that their appearance
03:29
and how they appear to the public
03:30
is really important to them.
03:32
They may pretend like it doesn't matter, but it does.
03:35
I think they would be cool if that were the case.
03:38
And they don't have anything to risk.
03:41
They're so successful.
03:43
Nothing to risk.
03:43
Nothing to risk.
03:44
I gotta go back to something you said, though.
03:46
Were you suggesting that Thelma and Louise were gay?
03:50
No!
03:51
I was kidding.
03:52
Oh, all right.
03:53
I was thinking of the movie.
03:53
I saw the movie completely differently.
03:55
I was like, wait a second,
03:56
I gotta go back and watch that again.
03:57
I was just thinking of the movie.
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