Operation Azm-e-Istehkam Hukoomat Ki Zaroorat. . Oppostion Ittehaad Inkari,

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00:00Nabeel Kabul, the leader of Pakistan People's Party, has given a timeline

00:05that Mr. Varun Khan will come out in this timeline. Listen.

00:09We are going through a dangerous situation.

00:12There is only one person who is in jail.

00:15I am sure that Mr. Khan will agree.

00:17He is absolutely agreeing. He wants to come out.

00:19No one trusts him.

00:21It seems that he will come out.

00:24And he will understand. He will understand and come out.

00:26I think it will take six months.

00:29On one hand, it is a matter of six months.

00:31On the other hand, it is a matter of bringing Mr. Imran Khan out.

00:34There is a fierce battle going on between people outside PTI and people inside PTI.

00:40Shibli Faraz vs. Marwat vs. Fawad Chaudhary.

00:44Now there are many more people.

00:46Mr. Fawad Chaudhary has given a lot of criticism to Mr. Rao Fasan and Mr. Hamid Khan.

00:54Listen to what he said.

00:56Mr. Rao Fasan and Mr. Hamid Khan are like rats.

00:59They have started eating from the inside.

01:04Mr. Hamid Khan and Iftikhar Chaudhary won the 2013 elections.

01:09Now they are involved in a conspiracy.

01:11They have harmed Tariq-e-Insaf.

01:14And they are still harming Tariq-e-Insaf.

01:16Until Tariq-e-Insaf does not get rid of them,

01:18a strong opposition cannot play a role.

01:22If there is a complaint, there will be a reply.

01:24Listen to Mr. Hamid Khan's reply.

01:27Mr. Fawad Chaudhary is also criticizing the legal strategy.

01:29He is also saying that those who have leadership, their stature is not that good.

01:32Listening to these things from his mouth is already sad.

01:35How can he say such things?

01:38He left the party in a difficult time and ran away.

01:41Now he is deliberately criticizing the party on someone's signal.

01:46I think he does not have any right.

01:49Who is following whose signals?

01:51We will have to see who is following whose signals.

01:56But it is clear that USA has always tried to follow Pakistan's signals.

02:01Like a puppet, it has also tried to run the political system of Pakistan.

02:05At this time, the resolution that came from the USA regarding the elections in Pakistan,

02:10the parliament of Pakistan passed a resolution against it.

02:14Talks are going on about it.

02:16Pakistan was against it.

02:19One more thing was against Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.

02:22It was against the parliamentarians.

02:24We will discuss all the topics.

02:26I will introduce the guests who are with me.

02:28At this time, in Islamabad Studios, Senior Director of Pakistan Muslim League Noon,

02:31Senator General Retired Abdul Qayyum is present.

02:34Thank you very much for joining us.

02:35Pleasure having you in the program.

02:36Zain Qureshi is present with us.

02:38Director of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.

02:40Thank you very much for joining us.

02:41Amir Zia is present with us.

02:43Senior Analyst.

02:44Thank you very much Amir sahab for joining us.

02:46Let's start with you.

02:48All of you are talking about the resolution.

02:50All of you are talking about it.

02:51And the resolution is probably due to the government's mishandling.

02:56You have made it controversial yourself.

02:57You said operation.

02:58They are saying that the operation will not happen in any way.

03:01Mr. Mohan Hanna, who was trying to straighten out the matter in Afghanistan,

03:05he says that it will be against the relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan

03:09if such a thing is done.

03:11So, it is a must to onboard the stakeholders of KPK.

03:15The government has mishandled it, Mr. Hanna.

03:17Thank you very much.

03:18Look, it is far-fetched.

03:20The explanation given by the different political people.

03:23Azam means firm will.

03:26To strengthen the stability of Pakistan.

03:29This is a vision.

03:31And to complete this vision, when you operationalize it,

03:36there is one element of terrorism in it.

03:38Then there is your economy.

03:40Then there is your political stability within the country, which you have to do.

03:44Then you have to protect yourself on the diplomatic front.

03:47So, if the government has said that the operation will happen,

03:51it means that...

03:52If it has not been said.

03:53It has been said.

03:54No, it has been said.

03:55Okay, it has been said.

03:56So, it does not mean that the operation will happen.

03:58But who does not know that today there is no no-go area in Pakistan

04:03in which there is an operation.

04:04When you did it,

04:05North Waziristan, South Waziristan, the tribal belt was not under your control.

04:10Rockets were fired from there.

04:13There was no soldier of the army.

04:15So, when they went inside, there was a displacement.

04:18And that was a big blow.

04:20Right.

04:21Now, by the grace of God,

04:22See, at that time, there was no-go area in Karachi.

04:24There were prisons.

04:25I myself was an M.S. to the Prime Minister at that time.

04:28And I went and saw.

04:29The hanging people, the drilling in the bones and all that.

04:33So, even today, if some sleepers are caught in Lahore or Karachi or Sheikhupura,

04:39then it is not that it can be said that no, now we are in operation,

04:42because the opposition is saying that this operation will not happen.

04:45This will continue.

04:46Whatever is happening against them.

04:48But this does not mean that a large-scale army is being pulled.

04:53We just have to take the country forward with a determined intention.

04:58So, our concern is definitely terrorism.

05:00Because it has escalated since we have talked about operationalizing CPEC.

05:06So, they target the Chinese.

05:08What scheme are you talking about?

05:09What scheme are you talking about?

05:11Sir, this is a greater game against China.

05:13It is a greater game.

05:14So, you are saying that the USA is involved in this?

05:16See, India is involved in this.

05:18The USA has said that this is your red line, CPEC.

05:22You see, India has never agreed to this.

05:25And these chosen engineers who are working on the Chinese Dassault Dam,

05:30if they catch them, kill them or do anything, then there is a plan.

05:35This is not our internal issue.

05:36This is important.

05:37And lastly, if you want to kill a terrorist, you need kinetic energy.

05:43If you catch a terrorist,

05:44but if you want to clear terrorism as a whole in Pakistan,

05:48then you need the judiciary, the media, the politicians,

05:52all parties together to make a strategy,

05:56a plan, and when you implement that plan,

06:00then that is your operation.

06:03Okay.

06:04Mr. Zain, since you have talked about the greater game,

06:08on one hand, Pakistan Tehrik-e-Ansar is against the operation.

06:13On the other hand, the USA is passing a resolution on Pakistan.

06:17So, Pakistan Tehrik-e-Ansar is kind of owning that.

06:22It is saying that this is done with our hard work.

06:26This is right.

06:27You should pay attention to this.

06:29So, if we go to the greater game, then this story becomes something else.

06:32Mr. Zain, please clarify,

06:33before these fatwas come to you on Pakistan Tehrik-e-Ansar,

06:37that these are the allies of the USA or puppets.

06:43In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

06:44Anika, thank you so much.

06:45You invited me to the program.

06:46Look, there are two or three things, and I am going to clear things in this.

06:49The first thing is that, in principle,

06:52we all agree with the Nationalist plan.

06:55Terrorism should end in this country.

06:58This is what every Pakistani wants.

06:59Did Khaibar Pakhtunkhwa and the people of Pakistan make the biggest sacrifices?

07:03Of course, they did.

07:04Do we want peace and stability in this country?

07:06Of course, we do.

07:07This is what every Pakistani wants.

07:09There can be no two opinions on this.

07:11Now, where is the issue coming from?

07:12The issue is coming from here,

07:14that the General of Azam-e-Sahkam has made a very beautiful explanation,

07:17but the same thing,

07:19what I always say about their call and fail,

07:21is that when the Defense Minister of Pakistan

07:25will talk about cross-border adventurism,

07:28when he will say that we will enter Afghanistan and eradicate terrorists,

07:33when he will say that we will do new intelligence-based operations,

07:37when there is no parliamentary approval in this.

07:40Look, we want you to do intelligence-based operations.

07:44We want you to get terrorism out of this country at once.

07:49But can you do this without debating in Parliament?

07:53Can you do this without taking the opinion of the public representatives?

07:58Enlighten me, Mr. Zain.

07:59Look, there is no doubt in this.

08:00Enlighten me, please.

08:01Before this, Zarb-e-Azb, Radd-ul-Fasad,

08:04were all approved in Parliament after discussion?

08:07Or did the government decide to talk to the National Security Committee?

08:10So, Anika, listen to me.

08:12If you have made a mistake before,

08:15will you make the same mistake again and again?

08:17Have you not seen how big...

08:20Yes, let me finish, Anika. Please don't interrupt.

08:23Have you not seen how big a price your law enforcement agencies,

08:28your forces, your civilians,

08:31have paid to you?

08:35So, the biggest stakeholders in this,

08:38the stakeholders are either Balochistan or KPK,

08:40shouldn't you take them on board?

08:42If you have made mistakes before, will you make the same mistakes again and again?

08:46The demand for justice in Pakistan is very simple.

08:49If you want to carry out a new operation,

08:52bring it to the floor of the House,

08:54have a debate on it,

08:56give us an in-camera briefing on it,

08:58and when you get parliamentary approval,

09:00then you can proceed.

09:02If you sit in a closed room and make these decisions,

09:05the consequences are far-reaching.

09:07And everyone has to face the consequences.

09:10You don't have to do it alone.

09:12So, it's not your decision alone.

09:14There have been elections in this country,

09:16and people have been elected.

09:18The representatives of this country

09:20should know about this,

09:22and with parliamentary approval, this should proceed.

09:24The second thing you said was about the resolution.

09:29So, again, our stance on the resolution is very clear.

09:33If you were bringing a resolution against the House of Representatives,

09:37then you had a right to get parliamentary approval,

09:42to build consensus,

09:44to give a copy of the resolution to the opposition,

09:47and you said, we are bringing a resolution,

09:49it should come unanimously.

09:51But you saw that the government

09:53that has gained power from the thieves,

09:55they also tried to bring a resolution from the thieves.

09:57What was wrong with that?

09:59If they had come to the leaders of the opposition,

10:01to the leaders of the opposition,

10:03we were all sitting together in the assembly,

10:05they could have shown us an hour ago,

10:07that they are bringing a resolution,

10:09give us your stance on it,

10:11but they didn't show us a resolution.

10:13What is the reason?

10:15One minute.

10:17Mr. Zain, let me clarify,

10:19number one,

10:21number two,

10:23if your party is saying that this is a victory for us,

10:25that the USA has passed a resolution

10:27that the elections in Pakistan,

10:29the humanitarian issues,

10:31whatever the USA is doing,

10:33in their homes or outside,

10:35or supporting Israel,

10:37but they are seeing the human rights violations in Pakistan,

10:39when it interferes here,

10:41your party is saying that they are doing the right thing,

10:43they could have shown you a resolution,

10:45and I am not saying that they shouldn't have shown it,

10:47they absolutely should have shown it.

10:49First of all,

10:51you should decide

10:53that you can't choose

10:55when there is interference or not.

10:57If we say that they sent a cipher

10:59of the interference,

11:01you say that it wasn't interference,

11:03but if they pass a resolution,

11:05then you feel that it is interference.

11:07Then both are wrong.

11:09We just say that,

11:11why did you create so much commotion?

11:13We didn't claim victory or defeat on this.

11:15We said that it is a resolution

11:17of the US House of Representatives.

11:19This is the habit of this government,

11:21they make it a mountain out of a molehill.

11:23We just said that

11:25whatever Imran Khan and Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf

11:27have been saying since 8th February,

11:29that there were irregularities

11:31in the upcoming elections on 8th February.

11:33It was not a clean and fair election.

11:35Today, the US House of Representatives

11:37have also supported it.

11:39I don't need to read more than this.

11:41Clarify one thing.

11:43I will come back to you.

11:45I will ask for clarification.

11:47You said that if you did this,

11:49then I am not referring to you.

11:51Clarify it.

11:53What do you mean?

11:55You said that you created a commotion

11:57at that time.

11:59I am not referring to you or the media

12:01regarding the cipher.

12:03I am talking about the government.

12:05I am talking about the PDN government.

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