Supreme Court Judges ka bhi dialogue ka Zikar , Kiya Siyasi Jamatein Amadah Hongi? Expert Analysis

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00:00 But today, Atharva said one more thing.

00:03 He said that if there is a fire,

00:05 we should not see whether the water is clean or not.

00:07 We should put out the fire.

00:08 He repeatedly said that we should discuss among ourselves,

00:11 solve the issues,

00:12 we are looking towards you.

00:14 But this is not the way to justice.

00:17 Maybe he was sitting with politicians.

00:20 Look, there is no doubt that politicians should talk to each other.

00:24 But I will say with utmost respect that

00:26 the custodians of fundamental rights,

00:30 custodians of constitution,

00:32 they do not give advice to politicians.

00:34 I am saying this with utmost respect.

00:35 You should make decisions according to your own laws.

00:38 If there can be any protection of anything,

00:41 be it people's rights, or constitution, or any other issues,

00:44 you should get it from the courts.

00:46 But democracy is everyone's stake, right?

00:48 It is everyone's stake.

00:49 Look, politicians have to do their own work.

00:51 That is why I said that it is absolutely right

00:53 that politicians sit together and solve the issues.

00:56 But the legal issues that are before you,

00:58 in front of the court,

00:59 the court should look at them.

01:00 Give your decision on them.

01:02 If the court has started giving advice,

01:05 then the issues will not be solved in that way.

01:08 The court is doing its work better.

01:10 Yesterday, Rana Sinhaullah also said that

01:12 one is the way of dialogue,

01:13 and the other is the way of conflict.

01:15 Even now, Mushayat Sahib was saying that

01:16 the conflict has already started.

01:18 It has already started.

01:19 Look, it has started to a great extent.

01:21 You can see that.

01:22 What is the reason for that?

01:23 What is our biggest issue right now?

01:25 There are two big political parties in Pakistan

01:28 who say that we have 70% or 60% popularity.

01:33 Despite that, why are you and I not having normal discussions?

01:37 Why are we not talking about the governance

01:40 of the existing democratic government?

01:43 We are not talking about any other issue.

01:46 And no one is doing it.

01:47 Why is no one doing it?

01:48 Because the main issue is that

01:50 what is happening right now?

01:51 Because the mandate is questionable.

01:53 It is not there.

01:54 And that is why it is being said that

01:56 if we fix the system,

01:59 then the matter will be settled and will be better.

02:01 The problem is that someone gives his shoulder.

02:04 Yes, sir, we are ready.

02:05 As you say.

02:06 As you say, my master.

02:07 Exactly.

02:08 So the main issue is that

02:09 when you have a real public representative government

02:12 on whose mandate no question will be asked,

02:15 then you will see that people will talk about governance.

02:18 The public will stand up and talk.

02:20 It will be discussed on social media.

02:21 At this time, the issues are different.

02:23 Politics, if it is settled,

02:25 then the camera will turn towards governance

02:28 or the direction of the conversation will come towards governance.

02:31 This is a matter of negotiation.

02:33 What are you seeing?

02:35 Is it increasing or is it manageable in your opinion?

02:39 Kashif, I think it is increasing.

02:44 I do not agree with PTI or Imran Khan.

02:48 Even if you do not accept someone's mandate,

02:52 you still talk to him.

02:54 What is the reason for that?

02:55 Imran Khan thinks that who has brought down his government.

02:59 Imran Khan thinks that he is powerful today.

03:02 Therefore, he should talk to him.

03:04 That is, he wants to talk to the one who he is accusing.

03:08 This means that he is accepting his role in politics.

03:14 If he talks to the government,

03:16 see in 1977, PNA did not accept Bhutto.

03:20 They did not accept Bhutto's election.

03:22 They did not accept Bhutto as Prime Minister.

03:25 But they talked to him.

03:27 And they prepared him to come.

03:29 He was ready to resign.

03:32 He was ready to have elections.

03:34 He was ready to make a bad government.

03:37 Talk to this government too.

03:40 Talk to them about 8th February.

03:42 Talk to them about the commission you want to make.

03:45 Either you have stolen our mandate or this is our position.

03:48 And we want to take back the mandate.

03:51 There is a framework for that.

03:53 Like in 2013, Imran Khan did not accept this government,

03:57 the PMLN government.

03:59 But he said, open four holes.

04:01 And in 2018, the Muslim League Moon and People's Party did not accept.

04:04 But on big occasions, they talked about it.

04:07 The committee was formed.

04:09 He did not do anything.

04:11 That is a different debate.

04:13 I am saying that, see, what will be the maximum?

04:17 The maximum will be that talks will break up.

04:19 You are right.

04:20 It will not be much.

04:21 You come and tell in the everyday press conference,

04:23 Sir, we want to talk about the issues of the mirror.

04:25 We do not want to talk about this.

04:27 As you said before, we want to talk about our NAB issues.

04:29 Imran Khan has options to keep in jail for unauthorized prostitution.

04:32 NAB, Toshakhana Dome, reference.

04:34 To keep it open, waiting for the right time.

04:37 You must have seen this news yesterday in the war.

04:39 It is Ansar Basi's news.

04:41 So you know, Ghasib,

04:43 Yes.

04:44 You keep Imran Khan in jail for five years for such things.

04:51 Suppose you take Imran Khan to an extreme position,

04:56 completely isolate him.

04:58 Will Imran Khan's narrative end?

05:01 Imran Khan's narrative will double.

05:04 Yes, that is more acceptable.

05:06 What you are doing is more acceptable.

05:09 Imran Khan is achieving this.

05:11 But this is the plan.

05:12 Keep him in jail as long as possible and see if he breaks.

05:16 Is that the plan?

05:17 Look, I don't know.

05:18 The way this news is,

05:19 this is a serious allegation on the entire justice system

05:22 that they will do this when the right time will come.

05:25 They are waiting for the right time.

05:26 If you read the whole news,

05:27 I read in detail yesterday that NAB has prepared.

05:30 NAB has given the authority for 40 days to keep him in jail.

05:34 NAB has said that they will do it when the right time will come.

05:37 It means it's not about corruption.

05:38 Imran Khan's corruption is not a problem.

05:41 The main problem is to keep him in jail

05:43 and the case will be filed at the right time.

05:45 The second thing is that

05:46 will Imran Khan be able to be kept in jail for a long time?

05:50 Look, the cases they have filed at the moment,

05:52 they have almost reached a decision.

05:54 One or two cases have been left.

05:55 I don't know.

05:56 The marriage that they have done,

05:58 because of the marriage,

05:59 they are in jail.

06:00 They are in jail.

06:01 Okay.

06:02 If they don't get married, they are out.

06:04 They are out.

06:05 But anyway,

06:06 you can guess from this

06:08 that what will be the right time

06:10 when all these cases will be filed.

06:12 As soon as it comes,

06:13 look,

06:14 the decision had to be made.

06:16 Yes.

06:17 Then something happened

06:18 because of which the judge returned it.

06:20 He wrote a letter to the High Court

06:22 that sir, change it.

06:23 They changed it.

06:24 There is something because of which the decision was not made.

06:26 Although,

06:27 I was listening that

06:28 many people think that

06:29 this does not happen.

06:30 That all the debate has been done.

06:31 But, Mr. Madar,

06:32 the plan is to keep him in jail.

06:34 This is the only way they can see.

06:36 If they keep him in jail,

06:37 then maybe there will be a little stability outside.

06:39 I don't think that

06:43 if this is their plan

06:45 and

06:47 they want to keep Imran Khan in jail for a long time,

06:50 then Imran Khan's narrative will be strong

06:53 and

06:54 they will not be able to govern.

06:55 Except for anti-Imran.

06:57 If you want to revolve politics around Imran,

07:00 then do this.

07:02 Look,

07:03 such things

07:04 are a very simple example.

07:05 And this is my position.

07:06 Many people disagree with this.

07:08 That PMLN

07:09 has come to a very weak position

07:11 from its strong position

07:13 just because of the vote of no confidence.

07:15 PMLN's ground was very strong in 2022.

07:19 That government was probably

07:21 because of taking the government for 16 months.

07:22 If after the vote of no confidence,

07:24 they had held an election,

07:25 then maybe the situation would not have been so bad.

07:27 They would have held an election.

07:28 Absolutely.

07:29 They would have held an election.

07:30 After that,

07:31 you see the strong position of PMLN.

07:33 I agree.

07:34 But I want to take a break.

07:35 Mr. Mufti, can I take a break?

07:36 Obviously, decisions are made

07:38 and the political decisions are paid for

07:41 or the political parties take advantage of it.

07:43 Let's take a break.

07:44 We will be back after the break.

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