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00:00 "He spoke on many issues.
00:02 A two-hour press conference.
00:05 It started with security issues.
00:07 But one by one, all the issues that are present in the political domain,
00:14 he was largely discussed.
00:16 9th May was mentioned, in fact, 9th May was mentioned in great detail.
00:19 He criticized freedom of expression, called it poisonous propaganda.
00:23 He asked for evidence at the 8th February election.
00:26 He left the letter of justice a little.
00:28 He said that he would talk to evidence, but said that this is a subjudicial matter.
00:32 And most importantly, without mentioning Pakistan's justice movement,
00:36 he spoke on many issues.
00:39 What can be discussed?
00:41 What was his view on justice movement?
00:43 He said all that very openly.
00:45 When 9th May was mentioned, the footages started playing.
00:48 This means that he was ready to talk about 9th May in this press conference.
00:52 And obviously, if 9th May is two days later,
00:56 and 9th May is one year after this incident,
01:00 then there was a lot of discussion on this.
01:03 The state told its position today.
01:06 They said that the accused of 9th May should be punished.
01:10 What did the DGISP say?
01:12 If you want to maintain trust in Pakistan's justice system,
01:16 then the accused of 9th May,
01:18 the one who did it and the one who got it done,
01:20 according to the law and the law, they will have to be punished.
01:24 9th May is not a hidden thing.
01:26 How people's minds were made up.
01:29 They were made up against the army, against its leadership,
01:31 against the agencies, against the institutions,
01:33 with lies and propaganda.
01:35 How some political leaders gave the targets of 'choose, choose'
01:38 Attack here, attack there.
01:40 In a few hours, in different places across the country,
01:42 only military organizations were attacked.
01:44 And when these evidences and all these things came to the people,
01:47 you saw the anger and reaction of the people.
01:50 You also saw how the people moved away from that controversial group.
01:53 When it came out openly, the second...
01:55 As I said, it was discussed very openly.
01:57 Footages were shot with reference to 9th May.
01:59 Examples were given of the riots in 2011 in the UK,
02:02 or the riots in Balmoral,
02:04 in which people were arrested by putting courts in the night.
02:07 People were arrested and punished for attacking Capitol Hill.
02:10 It is absolutely right that someone's house is entered,
02:13 even if it is someone's house.
02:15 This is not right.
02:17 You can go to the government installations,
02:19 whether it is the government's PTV, parliament, Supreme Court,
02:22 or some other building, be it the PM House,
02:24 attacking anyone at any place is wrong.
02:28 But the state has to make a decision.
02:31 The state does not take revenge.
02:33 The state does justice.
02:35 And it fulfills the demands of justice.
02:38 Many people are arrested.
02:40 No one knows how their cases are going on.
02:43 Because, obviously, those cases are going on in the military courts.
02:47 There will be many people.
02:49 Some will be innocent, who have not done anything.
02:52 They are present there.
02:54 There is a drama culture in Pakistan.
02:56 I have heard some people have been released.
02:58 I have seen a few interviews.
03:00 But the decision has to be made
03:02 whether we want to do justice or not.
03:05 And in this particular case,
03:07 like my state should have zero tolerance
03:10 when such incidents happen.
03:12 It should happen to anyone.
03:14 It should happen to a politician's house.
03:16 We have seen a lot in this country.
03:19 But it should happen with justice.
03:22 It should happen with transparency.
03:25 It should happen with transparency.
03:27 This is not the right message.
03:30 If people keep thinking what is happening.
03:33 Desire and reality are two very different things.
03:36 So what is the reality?
03:38 These decisions should be made on the basis of facts.
03:41 And I will give you a small example.
03:43 On 9th May,
03:45 many politicians of justice
03:48 were accused of being in 6 different cities at the same time.
03:52 Shah Mahmood Qureshi and his family.
03:55 They were in Karachi.
03:57 They had a personal issue.
03:59 They were accused of being in 4 different cities.
04:02 You were in Multan, Lahore, Pindi, Mianwali.
04:06 There are FIRs everywhere.
04:08 This is not a one-off.
04:10 There are many people who are still facing 40 FIRs.
04:13 There is no fraud that they can be in 6 different places at the same time.
04:17 So there have been such FIRs.
04:20 This should also be looked at.
04:22 If they are present,
04:24 then it will be known in a year
04:26 that who was where.
04:28 Or it will be the footage.
04:30 Or you can decide from the telephone signal
04:32 that where he was present.
04:34 But victimization should not be political in this matter.
04:37 Article 19,
04:39 talked a lot about freedom of expression.
04:41 It is a thin line.
04:43 It is social media.
04:45 It is said that it is very poisonous.
04:47 It needs to be regulated, not controlled.
04:49 In our country, whenever something goes wrong,
04:51 we say that it should be controlled.
04:53 The real problem is not control.
04:55 The real problem is regulation.
04:57 You put boundaries on it
04:59 so that no one goes beyond the boundaries.
05:01 But here in this country,
05:03 we have closed Twitter.
05:05 And if we are bringing in legislation now,
05:07 we hope that the legislation comes forward
05:09 and we will see what will happen.
05:11 What kind of legislation will be there?
05:13 But as I said earlier,
05:15 this is a means of expressing people.
05:17 The whole world tries to protect it.
05:19 It is protected so that people
05:21 who do not have a voice,
05:23 can reach their voice to people here.
05:25 And because of this,
05:27 it is used more politically.
05:29 It is used all over the world,
05:31 which is called Twitter or X.
05:33 So there is a lot of caution for it.
05:35 It is a big crime to brush it aside.
05:37 It is a big crime to do that.
05:39 On the other hand,
05:41 we talked about making a judicial commission.
05:43 The question was asked,
05:45 will we make a judicial commission?
05:47 Because the demand is for justice.
05:49 So what was said?
05:51 It is said that a judicial commission should be made.
05:53 My question is that a judicial commission
05:55 is made in a matter about which there is a doubt.
05:57 You have seen a small glimpse of this incident.
05:59 This is in front of you in history.
06:01 Absolutely clear.
06:03 And to put confusion and haze in it,
06:05 we have done it.
06:07 We are ready to make a judicial commission.
06:09 But if we want to make a judicial commission,
06:11 then we have to go to the bottom of this whole incident.
06:13 That judicial commission should also explain
06:15 what were the objectives of the 2014 uprising?
06:17 How was the attack on the parliament and how was it carried out?
06:19 It should also explain the attack on PTV.
06:21 How was the claim made on Daraul Khilafah
06:23 with the government resources of KPK in 2016?
06:25 So he has mentioned many incidents of the past.
06:29 The 2014 uprising.
06:31 The judicial commission was made on everyone.
06:33 See who came with it.
06:35 There is a need to rectify the facts of this country.
06:37 And all of them need to be rectified.
06:39 He is absolutely right that the incidents
06:41 that he has penned down or mentioned,
06:43 who is behind all of this?
06:45 Then there should be a good open investigation
06:47 of all the incidents.
06:49 There should be judicial investigations.
06:51 Judicial commissions should be made.
06:53 This country needs to be rectified.
06:55 This country needs to be rectified.
06:57 This country needs to be rectified.
06:59 This country needs to be rectified.
07:01 Judicial commissions should be made.
07:03 Truth and reconciliation has been going on for a long time.
07:05 Truth should be spoken.
07:07 Our problem is that we speak selective truth.
07:09 We do not speak the truth openly.
07:11 We want to speak the truth of our own will.
07:13 If you go to someone, to a political party,
07:15 they will forget their own actions
07:17 and remember the actions of others.
07:19 Although there is a lot of things
07:21 on everyone's CV.
07:23 Governments have been overthrown.
07:25 Elections.
07:27 They were also asked about the elections
07:29 on 8th February.
07:31 They were asked to speak with evidence.
07:33 If you go to a political party,
07:35 every political party will tell you the same thing.
07:37 There have never been fair elections
07:39 in the history of Pakistan.
07:41 If you ask them who has been doing all this
07:43 in the history of Pakistan for 76 years,
07:45 they will point to the same person.
07:47 All these incidents should be investigated.
07:49 All these incidents should be investigated.
07:51 Judicial commissions should be made.
07:53 I think the time has come.
07:55 I think the time has come.
07:57 I think the time has come.
07:59 There is a case in the Supreme Court
08:01 where they have not commented on the case.
08:03 There is a case of the letter of the judges.
08:05 The history of Pakistan is full of these incidents.
08:07 If we want to correct Pakistan,
08:09 then we will have to move forward
08:11 with punishment and punishment
08:13 as DG sir said.
08:15 In all cases,
08:17 there is punishment and punishment.
08:19 Let's leave the punishment.
08:21 There are very few people in this country
08:23 who can proudly say that
08:25 someone offered a letter of support
08:27 to the government of Pakistan.
08:29 Some dictator refused to take the dictation.
08:31 There are such people who refused to take the dictation.
08:33 But there is another history of this country
08:35 which is very dark.
08:37 It is not very proud.
08:39 I think the truth and reconciliation
08:41 should be discussed on all these issues.
08:43 should be discussed on all these issues.
08:45 They have made a very good comment.
08:47 They have made a very good comment.
08:49 I am talking about punishment and punishment.
08:51 If the people who did 9th May were not punished
08:53 according to the law and the constitution,
08:55 then no one's life, property and honor
08:57 will be safe in this country.
08:59 If the people who did 9th May
09:01 were not punished according to the law and the constitution,
09:03 then no one's life, property and honor
09:05 will be safe in this country.
09:07 We need to maintain confidence
09:09 in our system of punishment and punishment.
09:11 We need to maintain confidence
09:13 in our system of punishment and punishment.
09:15 And he said that 9th May,
09:17 he was absolutely right.
09:19 If such incidents and punishments
09:21 were given to the people in good times,
09:23 if such incidents and punishments
09:25 were given to the people in good times,
09:27 then this day would not have come.
09:29 I agree with him 100%.
09:31 But the way the police entered people's houses
09:33 and destroyed their property,
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