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الرئيس التنفيذي لشركة أديس السعودية لـ CNBC عربية: نتوقع وصول حجم الاستثمارات إلى 5.5 مليار ريال خلال العامين المقبلين
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5/6/2024
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00:00
Qatar is one of the most important markets for us,
00:03
because it has very important parts.
00:07
Of course, gas, as a development and exploration of gas,
00:12
and also oil.
00:14
We had three excavators working there in the market
00:20
in the past period,
00:21
from almost 20+ rigs.
00:26
This is about 15% of the market share.
00:30
In fact, we won in the first year in Thailand,
00:35
in Indonesia, unfortunately,
00:38
with one of the producers there.
00:43
We took a rig from EDC, from Qatar,
00:48
and it started to move in the past two days towards Indonesia.
00:54
It was very important for us to keep our market share.
00:59
So we had the opportunity to take the excavator
01:03
and we won the contract with Total,
01:07
which is worth 350 million Riyals.
01:13
On average, our margins are within the limits of the cost of the gas.
01:17
- How much do you want to increase this share in the Qatar market, Dr. Mohamed?
01:22
Is it also intended to increase and increase your investments
01:26
in the Qatar market during this period?
01:30
- Of course, we see, as you said,
01:32
the Qatar market has a growth in the amount of gas up to 20-30,
01:36
almost 1.8% of the current production.
01:39
Also, as I announced,
01:43
in the north, there is an increase in expected production.
01:48
We expect to double our number of excavators,
01:54
which is currently three, and maybe six,
01:59
given the market condition and the opportunities there,
02:05
and given that we are part of the Middle East,
02:08
which gives us a very high level of competitiveness
02:11
compared to the international players in this field.
02:15
- Dr. Mohamed, you talk about expansion in Indonesia,
02:18
and you also have expansions in India and Thailand.
02:21
What are the most prominent markets you are aiming to expand to?
02:25
And what is the expected size to cover these expansions?
02:30
- In fact, the Qatar market, as you mentioned,
02:34
is one of the most promising markets for us,
02:37
or very important.
02:39
It has Southeast Asia in general,
02:41
as a result of the lack of excavators in the world.
02:44
A simple example,
02:46
there are about 400 excavators in the world today.
02:50
These 400 excavators are not built by others,
02:54
the market is not built by others,
02:57
so people compete for a very limited number of excavators.
03:00
We have 49 of these companies,
03:04
which allows us to compete.
03:06
There is a huge shortage in Southeast Asia,
03:09
and as you know, all these countries are in a very serious growth state,
03:13
and all of them are consuming and importing energy,
03:16
so they are trying to compensate for this shortage
03:19
by exploring and developing their products.
03:22
They have a very large number of excavators,
03:26
and we have three excavators working in India,
03:29
and we have a plan to increase this number.
03:33
We have an excavator in Thailand, which will start in the second half,
03:37
and we have an excavator in Indonesia, which will start in the second half.
03:40
We hope that these five excavators will be able to,
03:44
in the next two years,
03:47
double their number and reach 10 excavators in the region.
03:52
We will also be the leader in the region of Southeast Asia.
03:56
This is also a very good thing that a Saudi company is emerging,
04:02
and it can compete with international companies,
04:05
which is the number one company today.
04:07
Dr. Mohamed, in light of these expansions and the entry into new markets,
04:13
in light of this framework,
04:16
how much is the size of your investment portfolio estimated,
04:19
and what are your goals for increasing this portfolio in the near future?
04:23
Even in terms of the expansions you are doing,
04:26
does it depend on the existence of a currently available financial liquidity,
04:30
how much is estimated, or through banking funds?
04:35
As you know, we are a listed company in trading.
04:41
We have access to the equity market and we have access to the debt market.
04:45
But we have a very conservative policy,
04:49
which says that I usually try to take a loan or invest,
04:54
so that the contract covers the loan and the cash flow
04:58
to the equity or shareholders above and beyond.
05:02
Of course, we have been buying steel for two years.
05:04
As you mentioned, we rely on maximizing the income of equity shareholders
05:11
by maximizing the debt,
05:13
but this debt must be covered through contract leverage,
05:17
through contracts, and not just through assets.
05:21
In response to your question,
05:23
we are preparing a debt campaign today,
05:29
so that we can acquire a backlog,
05:33
at least twice the debt,
05:36
so that it allows the debt to be covered in a good way.
05:39
At the same time, we have financial liquidity,
05:41
as was announced in the last financial report of the F31-12,
05:48
in the range of 200 million dollars or 750 million riyals.
05:51
So, thank God, between the equity we have
05:54
and the availability or access to debt in a contract leverage manner,
06:01
so that it is covered in the usual way,
06:03
and there is no risk to the company or shareholders,
06:05
this will allow us to grow, God willing,
06:08
in terms of investments, we see that it will not be less than 1.5 billion dollars
06:14
or within the range of 5.5 billion riyals, God willing,
06:19
in the next two years.
06:21
Dr. By talking about the Egyptian market today,
06:24
with the number of contracts with Swiss,
06:27
how large is your business in Egypt?
06:29
What is expected from this market?
06:31
And how can you deal with the risks of the fluctuations in the exchange rates?
06:35
This is a very important question.
06:38
The Egyptian market was a very important market for us as a company,
06:41
and we have been working since 2012 as a market leader in the market.
06:47
We are able to deal with the circumstances,
06:49
because all our businesses in Egypt are Egyptian,
06:53
and at the same time, all our spending on local currency,
06:57
so we do not have the risk.
06:58
On the contrary, sometimes the evaluation works in our favor in some situations.
07:03
But today, the size of our business,
07:07
according to the latest budget, was within the range of 500 million Saudi riyals,
07:14
which I think is very good on an annual basis.
07:16
Of course, the process of limiting the exchange rate and the existing dynamics
07:23
has worked in our interest more as a result of reducing the cost
07:28
and increasing our revenue.
07:31
Therefore, today the risk is much less than six months ago.
07:37
I hope this continues, and God willing,
07:39
we will be able to live with the market from 2012 until today,
07:44
which is about 12 years of success, and we hope to maintain our market share.
07:47
Yes, Dr. Mohamed, the last question, and in short,
07:50
there were temporary platforms that were suspended in Saudi Arabia.
07:54
When do we expect their work to return?
07:56
And is there a reason for the increase in these businesses in the Saudi markets?
08:00
As you know, the Saudi market is a very large market,
08:05
and a very high dynamic market,
08:07
and they have their plans that change over time.
08:13
And thank God, we were able to,
08:17
through the number of platforms that were suspended for a year
08:21
within the five platforms,
08:23
thank God, we were able to employ three of the five today,
08:26
and two more platforms remain, and God willing,
08:28
through the efforts of marketing,
08:30
I see that in the coming months we will announce news, God willing,
08:35
about the employment process.
08:37
This is also good news that we were able to,
08:39
the five of them, in a short period of time,
08:42
as a result of our efforts, to employ them.
08:45
And we also see that Saudi Arabia is still aware,
08:48
especially in the field of unconventional gas,
08:51
or sea gas, which we are specialized in.
08:54
And we thank you, Dr. Mohamed Farouk Abdel Khaliq,
08:57
and you are the CEO of Addis,
08:59
who is in charge of all these details.
09:01
You were with us from Riyadh.
09:03
Thank you.
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