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'Dance Moms' Stars JoJo Siwa & Kalani Hilliker Discuss Their Relationship With Abby Lee Miller
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5/4/2024
'Dance Moms' Stars JoJo Siwa & Kalani Hilliker Discuss Their Relationship With Abby Lee Miller
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Also, if I'm in the back corner, it doesn't matter. If I'm on the bottom of the pyramid,
00:03
there's more air time than the top of the pyramid. So I always had like...
00:07
You're a nut. You're so funny though. You're so right.
00:10
It's valid!
00:11
I went in craving Abby's approval. Then I realized I was never going to get it.
00:16
Then I didn't care about it, but I did care about the show side of things.
00:21
I never really cared about being on ALDC. I didn't come in to be on ALDC.
00:27
I came in to be on Dance Moms. So for me, it was more of a I'm on a show perspective.
00:32
My mom would get so like, "I'm going to ask her to put you in the front of the group dance.
00:37
You should not be in the back corner." I was like, "Mom, it literally doesn't matter."
00:40
I would tell her that when I was 11. I was like, "I'm dancing with Kehlani.
00:44
I am not going to be front and center. It's not going to happen."
00:48
But also, if I'm in the back corner, it doesn't matter. If I'm on the bottom of the pyramid,
00:52
there's more air time than the top of the pyramid. So I always had like...
00:55
You're a nut. You're so funny though. You're so right.
00:58
It's valid. I don't know. Maybe it's just how I get myself through it.
01:02
But then, I mean, after for me, Abby's been very, very supportive of my career.
01:07
Of course, we've had our ups and downs and good moments on Dance Moms and off Dance Moms
01:12
and bad moments on and bad moments off.
01:14
But she's a massive part in why my career is what it is today.
01:19
And I would... Like what Chloe said, nothing that I went through could be different
01:25
because I would be different now.
01:28
I'm similar in the way that I know for me, especially Abby brought me in.
01:34
And Abby loves you. She loves Kehlani.
01:38
But she brought me in and I would not be where I'm at or have the career that I have without Abby.
01:44
I was never supposed to be on the show.
01:47
I really was there for the love of dance and because Abby loved me.
01:51
And I love to dance. That's the reason why I came on to the show and the team
01:56
is because I genuinely love dance.
01:58
So, different perspective from you in that sense.
02:01
I know you love dance, but you came on for the show.
02:03
No, I hated it actually. I really did.
02:05
But I loved to dance. And so, that's kind of the whole reason why I think...
02:11
You wanted to be on the dance side of the deal.
02:13
Yeah. I cared more about the dance side of everything.
02:15
I cared about being in the front. I cared about having to slow down.
02:18
You had the best legs and feet.
02:20
Yeah, I cared about having the best legs and feet.
02:21
And you did it. You had all the best legs and feet.
02:23
You were the best.
02:24
Thanks, guys.
02:25
But that was kind of more why I wanted to be there.
02:28
And I think that I just have to give a lot of credit to her.
02:32
I think as we grow up, we obviously have our times where I don't love how she maybe treated my friends.
02:38
She obviously didn't treat me the best at some times.
02:41
It happened to everybody. We all have our own experiences.
02:46
But I think I was able to heal from it and understand as I became an adult.
02:51
And it's not that I forgive her for everything.
02:54
And we can't go back in time and she can't change what she did.
02:58
But I'm able to kind of move forward from it.
03:00
So, yeah, I've seen her. I've worked with her occasionally.
03:04
It was really weird. I just did a meet-up with her.
03:06
And she was like, "Listen to Miss Kehlani."
03:08
And I'm like, "Miss Kehlani?"
03:10
And she was like, "Yeah, listen to Miss Kehlani."
03:12
And she was like, "Make sure you work really hard for her. You're being nice to me over this?"
03:17
So I think that she's also--I mean, she's the same.
03:20
But she's also kind of changed a little bit.
03:23
And our dynamic is more--we're adults now versus her treating me as a child.
03:28
So, you know, I have a good relationship with her.
03:31
And not that I forgive her for things that she's done to my friends or myself.
03:35
But I'm just able to move past it.
03:38
We've never sat down and talked about it.
03:40
It's time to set the record straight.
03:45
It's hard to talk about the stuff that we went through.
03:47
What do you guys think she was like in prison?
03:49
I've cried more today than I have on most episodes of Dance Moms.
03:52
See, I can't say the same.
03:53
Why are you always crying?
03:55
I just feel like there were so many mixed emotions going into it.
03:57
I know you said you were automatically a yes.
04:00
But I feel like for people from the original team, we went through so much.
04:04
So it definitely took a little bit for me to process.
04:07
If I wanted to do it or not.
04:08
So I understand why not everyone wanted to.
04:10
Because it's hard getting back into it and dealing with this stuff.
04:13
I think I was really hesitant at first.
04:15
I was like, "I don't even know if I'm ready for this."
04:18
And then honestly, I really reflected and I thought,
04:20
"It's a really good way to say--to close that chapter of my life."
04:23
And give my appreciation, show my gratitude to it, reminisce.
04:27
I mean, these are my closest friends.
04:29
Like, we're sisters. It's like an extended family.
04:31
And I just wanted to have that moment all together.
04:33
And now I just graduated. We had that moment.
04:36
And now I'm like, "Okay, it's a new adventure."
04:38
So, I think for all of us--I don't want to speak for everyone--
04:42
but it feels like a good closure.
04:44
It was very therapeutic.
04:46
We cried every segment.
04:48
[laughter]
04:50
There was a lot of tears, but also a lot of laughs.
04:52
I think it was really fun for all of us to get back together.
04:55
And I feel like it made us even closer now than we were before.
04:59
And I think, of course, we would love to have everybody there.
05:03
But everybody makes their own decision.
05:05
I'm happy that we chose ourselves that we wanted to be there.
05:08
And everybody can make their own choice.
05:10
And we chose to be here, and there's nothing wrong either way.
05:12
Yeah.
05:13
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