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الرئيس التنفيذي لشركة التنمية الغذائية لـ CNBC عربية: نستهدف إنتاج مليون دجاجة يومياً بحلول 2027 ونساهم في خطة مبادرة الأمن الغذائي لعام 2030
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to a new episode of CEO Talks.
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Today, our guest is Mr. Dhulfiqar Al-Hamadani, CEO of Tanmia Food Company.
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Mr. Dhulfiqar, thank you so much for joining us at CEO Talks.
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Thank you very much for having me here.
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It's a pleasure to be here.
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Thank you.
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Let's start, of course, with the journey of Tanmia Food Company in the Saudi market over
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the years.
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If you can introduce the company to our audience and tell us about your journey.
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So Tanmia started back in 1962, so it's already more than six decades of journey, which makes
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us also the pioneers of poultry industry in Saudi Arabia.
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And this journey has been marked with our commitment to firstly, our customers and quality.
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So quality of our services, our products, our commitment to sustainability.
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So all this while, all along, especially in the last decade, we have really focused on
01:12
sustainability in all facets and aspects of our business.
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Then commitment to our partners.
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We have built partnerships not only with international players, but also locally with farmers, with
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local players.
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So we are fully committed to not only enriching and adding value to our direct shareholders,
01:30
but also adding value for our partners.
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Then innovation.
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That is the core of our business.
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Not only innovation of new products like omega-3 fortified chicken that we have recently introduced,
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but also innovation in the processes, innovation in the cost saving, innovation in improving
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efficiencies throughout the organization.
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And lastly, our commitment to our team.
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Because we have always believed that no processes, no investment can replace people.
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So we are committed to the training, career progression, and skill enhancement, and inclusivity
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and empowerment of our team.
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So through this, we are now among the top leading poultry producers in the kingdom.
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What's the market share approximately?
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We are 20 plus percent of retail in the kingdom currently, which makes us a very comfortable
02:33
second and very challenging for the number one.
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Our aim is, of course, to go to number one.
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We are contributing towards the food security initiative of Vision 2030 through various
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activities, poultry being one.
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We are also working on the feed saving, the grains which are imported, we are working
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on those.
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So it has been a wonderful journey, six decades.
03:02
And we are looking at only increasing our production and our offering to our customers
03:09
many fold in the coming years.
03:12
So let's talk about your presence.
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Your presence mainly is now in GCC and in Saudi Arabia.
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Can you give us a little bit of numbers around your presence in the GCC, the market share
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in GCC, and where do you find investing opportunities and expansion opportunities in the region
03:28
overall?
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Okay, so Saudi Arabia being the biggest market and our home country.
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We are based out of Riyadh, that's where our headquarters are.
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But our production facilities are spread all around Saudi Arabia.
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In fact, we also have a factory in Dubai.
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We have about 200 farms and other production facilities, majority of which are in the Riyadh
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province and in south of Saudi Arabia also in Jazan province.
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Plus we have about 20 distribution centers across Saudi Arabia and five outside Saudi
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Arabia in GCC, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Oman.
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And we have, as I mentioned, a production facility, further processing facility in Dubai.
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Further investment is needed, of course, firstly to expand capacity because we see-
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What's the current capacity right now?
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Currently we have about 550,000 birds per day processing capacity, six days a week.
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Our further processing capacity, burgers, nuggets, et cetera, that is about 35,000 metric
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tons a year.
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And we are expanding all of these capacities.
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We are- So in Saudi Arabia, for example, one is import substitution, investing towards
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the food security of the kingdom because the kingdom has set itself a target of self-sufficiency
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in poultry production.
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So we want to be really in the front row of that initiative, which we are.
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We want to go up to one million plus birds a day by 2027 and then more by 2030.
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So this is just a milestone, not the final destination that we want to get to.
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Similarly, in further processing, we have partnership with Tyson Foods of U.S. where
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we want to multiply this current capacity.
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We also have invested in a fast food restaurant chain, Popeye's, which we have about 55 stores
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already in Saudi Arabia.
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We started about 18 months ago.
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And we are bringing that store now to Bahrain, Kuwait, and rest of GCC.
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So we see a lot of opportunities of investment in GCC, including Saudi Arabia.
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And we are also working on automation of our existing facilities.
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So that is another investment.
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Sustainability initiatives all around our operations.
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So that is another investment.
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So we have embarked on this investment campaign kind of about three years ago.
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And the next stop is 2030.
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So what's the demand picture looking like, especially in GCC where the demographics,
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I believe, actually is a supporting factor for higher demand?
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So to what extent is the demand picture supporting your ambitions to more capacity?
06:19
Oh, it is supporting a lot.
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We see a lot of opportunity now, for example, in Saudi Arabia itself.
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The non-religious tourism is on the rise.
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The domestic tourism is also on the rise, which means that the people don't travel
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outside Saudi Arabia, the residents and citizens.
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They do tourism within Saudi Arabia.
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So our market remains intact.
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The buying power is also on the higher side as compared to the rest of the world.
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And the economic policies of the governments of GCC have helped kind of save this region
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from the economic downturns which were suffered by the rest of the world.
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So we are very bullish about the future of demand.
07:08
We are now investing also a lot in product development to bring further process ready
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to eat products, heat and eat kind of products, which are as per the local cuisine, local
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taste and preferences, and healthier products.
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Not importing concepts from elsewhere in the world, but developing based on the traditions
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and cuisines of the region.
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So we see a lot of demand growing and by bringing in more products to the region, I think we
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have a good future ahead.
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So do you have a certain budget for expansion set for this year?
07:50
Yes, we do.
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But I would like to speak more about our next five years plan, because budgets is only expenditure
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out of that plan.
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We are planning to spend about 4.5 billion rials in the next five years in our expansion,
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which includes capacity expansion, which includes automation and opening new stores, new distribution
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centers and bringing new products to our consumers.
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You mentioned sustainability and innovation as key part pillars of your operations.
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Let's go with sustainability first.
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What's your sustainability agenda and how do you deal with this topic, especially in
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your industry, where sustainability is at the core of your operations, day-to-day operations?
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So in any food and agricultural business, there is a lot of wastage, which is usually
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thrown away.
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And even before the government of Saudi Arabia announced the Green Saudi Arabia Initiative,
08:57
we embarked on a million tree project, where we are planning to plant million trees in
09:07
the middle of the desert using our waste and achieving the circular economy model.
09:12
Now what is important with circular economy model is that it should save our costs.
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It should not be a drag on our profitability, but it should add to our profitability by
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improving efficiency, by reducing costs.
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These trees, we have already got about half a million trees already out there.
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Some of them are, majority of them are four or five meters tall.
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And now we are working to plant infect trees with the fruits and vegetables.
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So that's one area.
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Then we also have what we call the Sustainability Grand Challenge, where we use a platform out
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of Switzerland and invite all the innovators and scientists around the world and throw
09:52
them a challenge.
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And they come up with solutions.
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The winners get about a million dollars in cash prize and an opportunity to do a joint
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venture with Tanmia in commercializing the concept.
10:05
So the first one, which we did in 21, was immediately after COVID we did that, was about
10:15
bringing in plastic out of the chicken waste.
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So that we are now commercializing.
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We already have the IP registered in our name.
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Now we are working on grains.
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Now chicken feed is dependent on grains, which are imported to this region.
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Can we feed chicken something which is local to this region?
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You know, a grain, a herb, anything.
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So we, and I'm very surprised that there are some magnificent ideas which have come up.
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And we have an independent jury, which is assessing those ideas.
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So sustainability is at the heart of whatever we do.
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It's not one of the pillars.
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It's the core of what we do.
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And that core is also, as I mentioned earlier, that adds value to our profitability.
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It should not be a drag.
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So in the worst of times, economically, this should help us rather than be a burden on
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us.
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How do you come up with new products and new segments and verticals for your business?
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I mean, I know this is mostly about innovation, but what factors do you take into consideration
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when coming with a new vertical or a new product?
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Okay, so our vision is to be a global leader in halal protein, sustainable halal protein,
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and be number one globally.
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So this is the vision which drives everything.
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And we have this value chain right from the back end.
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I don't want to be too technical, but something starting from pear and chicken until our restaurants
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like Popeye's, and whatever adds value to each segment of our value chain.
12:03
So this is how we look at our business, look at our expansion, and where owning a segment
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of our value chain would add more value to our business rather than outsourcing it.
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We also extensively use the consultancy firms like McKinsey and Bain, et cetera, to come
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up with our strategy.
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We do consumer research.
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In fact, we have now our app for online deliveries of our product directly to our consumer.
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There we are getting a lot of feedback from them, so that helps us in developing new products.
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And then we are seeing now a lot of females are joining the workforce in this region,
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the locals, which means that they are in need of some healthy, ready-to-eat, heat-and-eat
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kind of products, which are healthy, like nuggets and burgers you can't eat every day.
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So we are looking at those.
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So this is how our product development works, and this is how our overall expansion works.
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Thank you so much for joining us today.
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We wish you the best of luck with everything that you do.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm very happy that I was able to make it here.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, sir.
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So, ladies and gentlemen, this was Mr. Dulfiqar Al-Hamadani, CEO of Tanmia Food Company.
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With this, we come to the end of this episode of CEO Talks.
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See you.
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Thank you.
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