"PTI aur JUIF ek truck par sawar hongay...", Faisal Karim Kundi

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00:00 You are being very forceful with Maulana Sahib.

00:02 And after that, it's good that Maulana Sahib has broken the middle path with you.

00:07 Your vote of no confidence, your actions.

00:11 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.

00:12 See, Maulana Sahib has given a statement today.

00:14 It would have been good if he had given it at that time.

00:15 Why did he give it today when he was saying in the election,

00:18 I am from his area.

00:19 You fought elections against him.

00:21 He said, "We have already talked.

00:22 I am the President and my brother is the CM.

00:25 And the way he was working there, he was always..."

00:29 He was saying this to everyone lightly.

00:30 Absolutely.

00:31 That I am going to be the President.

00:33 I am going to be the President.

00:33 My brother is the CM.

00:34 We have already talked.

00:35 And you just let us vote.

00:37 He didn't even get a campaign.

00:39 He had security threats too.

00:40 We are also human.

00:42 He had direct letterheads.

00:44 It's a good thing that Allah Almighty...

00:45 Kept everyone in his own language.

00:47 Agreed.

00:47 But Maulana Sahib, tell me,

00:49 who was the most beneficiary after that lack of confidence?

00:53 Who had the housing ministry?

00:54 Who had the communication?

00:55 Who had the religious affairs?

00:56 Who had the saffron?

00:57 Who had the governor?

00:58 Who had the KPK minister?

01:00 He had all these resources.

01:02 He explained to you that lack of confidence.

01:04 And then, after these ministries,

01:06 the way he worked in them...

01:09 What did he do?

01:10 He got the result of that.

01:12 So he didn't work?

01:14 He worked a lot and got the result.

01:16 But on a serious note,

01:18 he says that you made him do this work.

01:21 And he was telling you till the last minute

01:23 that don't worry about the Tehreek-e-Insaf government.

01:25 So, he should have been the President of PDM.

01:27 He was the President of PDM.

01:29 So, he should have been the President of PDM.

01:31 We were not with PDM.

01:32 We were with the Uttiyadis.

01:33 We were with MKM.

01:34 So, Sarhan is a wrong statement.

01:36 I think he is a wrong statement.

01:38 Sir, yesterday in our interview,

01:41 he said that Zardari Sahib's politics

01:43 cannot be done like the slavery politics.

01:45 No, Zardari Sahib's politics cannot be done at all.

01:47 Zardari Sahib is the king of mutual understanding.

01:49 He does reconciliation.

01:51 Maulana Sahib cannot reach him at all.

01:54 The slavery politics.

01:56 Today, he remembers the slavery.

01:58 When the people rejected him,

02:00 today he remembers the slavery.

02:01 Today, he remembers the sheep.

02:02 Today, he remembers everything.

02:04 Today, the change has come in Pakistan.

02:08 The PTI and Maulana Sahib are sitting together.

02:11 One point agenda.

02:12 Umar Ayub Sahib just told us.

02:13 Khan Sahib has given him a go ahead

02:15 on just one point agenda

02:16 that talk against this protest and rigging.

02:18 They will be together.

02:19 They will be on the same track.

02:20 Even then, he was not ready to talk to you, Tehreek-e-Insaf.

02:23 Who will talk to him?

02:24 Your 54 sessions, your 54 votes,

02:26 which is a make or break for any Jamaat,

02:29 they say that the conscience is not satisfied.

02:31 Look, I don't understand.

02:33 Sometimes, Marwa Sahib stands up and says,

02:35 Zardari Sahib was calling me at night.

02:36 Sometimes, Asad Qaisar is saying,

02:37 Bilal Sahib was calling me.

02:38 Why should we call him?

02:40 We have not called him.

02:42 Sometimes, he says,

02:43 Zardari Sahib is talking to me on the phone.

02:44 Who will talk to you?

02:45 We have made a committee.

02:46 Whoever wants to talk to the committee,

02:48 today, when he had a statement,

02:49 I gave a statement in response to that.

02:51 That we have made a committee,

02:52 coordination, and everyone who wants to talk to it,

02:54 should talk to it.

02:55 If we don't want to talk to it,

02:56 then don't talk to it.

02:57 We are not after them to do it.

02:59 If they are political people,

03:01 they are not talking to us.

03:03 The internal debate that you had

03:05 in your Central Executive Committee,

03:07 if you had an option,

03:08 because there is so much stigma with Muslim League Noon,

03:10 and you launched a whole campaign,

03:12 Bilal said that we will not go on old salaries,

03:14 and it was a mistake,

03:15 and the Mingai League,

03:16 and against Dar Sahib,

03:18 against Shabaz Sharif Sahib,

03:19 would you have had a natural inclination

03:22 to contact PTI,

03:23 and if they had been there?

03:25 Look, this is a matter of if and but.

03:27 When our CEC meeting was held,

03:28 the majority of our friends,

03:29 the party,

03:30 were not in favour of us going with PM Lehn.

03:33 Because the 16 months experience was not good.

03:35 You guys criticized so much,

03:36 everything happened.

03:37 So, we had no other solution.

03:39 Because PTI said that we don't talk to anyone.

03:41 Today, again, after hitting everyone,

03:42 I am saying that ideally speaking,

03:43 if we had talked and if they had been there,

03:45 that we should sit together and form a government,

03:46 and you have seen the popular wave in this country,

03:48 the ideal situation would have been

03:50 that you would have formed a government with PTI.

03:52 Maybe.

03:53 It is not necessary that our dialogues are successful or not.

03:55 But it was an option.

03:56 It was an option, right?

03:57 We had only one option,

03:59 PM Lehn and us.

04:00 Because if we sit in opposition today,

04:02 then this country will go towards re-election.

04:04 Because there is no government.

04:05 And we don't want to go towards re-election.

04:07 Whatever the situation is.

04:08 Sir, they still wish that

04:09 anything can happen.

04:11 It is possible that you guys still take ministers

04:13 and form a government with them.

04:14 No, we will not take ministers,

04:15 we will support them.

04:16 We will give vote of confidence to Shabba Sharif.

04:19 Is this a rightful decision?

04:20 Or is it a stone against a line?

04:22 No, I am telling you that

04:25 we are not going to become a part of the cabinet.

04:27 Now?

04:28 Now, whatever cabinet we form,

04:30 we will not become a part of it.

04:32 Not even post-budget?

04:33 Not for now.

04:34 I don't see us becoming a part of the cabinet.

04:36 We will do this,

04:37 we will also reform the criticism.

04:39 We will not criticize the criticism.

04:41 You have become so bold,

04:43 the strategy is fantastic that way.

04:45 They also take credit that

04:46 they are saving the system,

04:48 and in this difficult time,

04:49 they are also allowing the government to be formed.

04:51 But at the same time,

04:52 in these circumstances,

04:53 they are not even sitting in the government.

04:54 So, one kind of...

04:55 You tell me, we have...

04:56 Sir, when you wanted to,

04:57 on which legislation you wanted to,

04:58 you raised your hand,

04:59 on which you wanted to,

05:00 you folded your arms.

05:01 You tell me, what option do we have?

05:03 No, I am telling you,

05:04 it is a fantastic strategy.

05:05 Whoever thought of it.

05:07 You wanted to sit directly in the opposition,

05:09 whoever has taken this path between father and son.

05:12 Because father was there,

05:14 in the ministries,

05:15 he still sat and said this.

05:16 And he sees free and fair elections.

05:18 This comrade asked him,

05:19 he said, if he was not there,

05:20 I would not have sat.

05:21 So, we have seen a very clear difference,

05:23 in the time of Bilawal and Zardari.

05:24 Look, the question mark on the election,

05:26 is a very big question mark.

05:27 All political parties,

05:28 majority political parties,

05:29 are questioning.

05:30 Our party's friends in CEC,

05:31 in Punjab, in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

05:32 in all four provinces,

05:33 they have told us,

05:34 what all happened,

05:35 how it happened.

05:36 If it is such a big question mark,

05:38 then the way you are giving a call to the week,

05:40 to the movement,

05:41 to all the translations,

05:42 will you share your part with them?

05:44 I don't think so,

05:45 I will share my part with Amitabh.

05:46 In anything?

05:47 Neither in protest,

05:48 nor in making a government,

05:49 nor in opposition?

05:52 I can't say anything before now.

05:53 This is politics.

05:54 What will happen to them in future?

05:56 But, I will not share my part with them in this protest.

05:58 You must be jealous,

05:59 once again,

06:00 to put Shabaz Sharif for the ministry of foreign affairs.

06:02 No, this is politics.

06:03 This is politics.

06:04 Look, our polarization with PML

06:05 was very high in the past also.

06:06 We did COD.

06:07 We sat with Muslim League.

06:08 With MGM.

06:09 It keeps happening.

06:10 It keeps happening.

06:11 Off and on.

06:12 It keeps going.

06:13 Still, we sat.

06:14 Look, we are a democratic party.

06:15 We sit with every political party.

06:16 We don't close the doors.

06:17 I will only be surprised

06:18 when PTI and GY sit together.

06:19 I don't know how they will look at each other.

06:20 How will PTI look at Maulana Fazl Aman?

06:21 They are sitting in their imamate.

06:22 Sir, like you look at Moon League,

06:23 they will also look at it.

06:24 No, we haven't done that yet.

06:25 After what Bilawal has said,

06:26 they haven't looked at each other yet.

06:27 We haven't done below the belt.

06:28 We haven't done what they did.

06:29 You know, PTI said,

06:30 we will sit with PML.

06:31 We will sit with PML.

06:32 We will sit with PML.

06:33 We haven't done below the belt.

06:39 You know, PTI said,

06:40 we will sit with PML.

06:41 We haven't done below the belt.

06:42 You know, PTI said,

06:43 we will sit with PML.

06:44 We haven't done below the belt.

06:45 You know, PTI said,

06:46 we will sit with PML.

06:47 We haven't done below the belt.

06:48 You know, PTI said,

06:49 we will sit with PML.

06:50 You know, PTI said,

06:51 we will sit with PML.

06:52 You know, PTI said,

06:53 we will sit with PML.

06:54 You know, PTI said,

06:55 we will sit with PML.

06:56 You know, PTI said,

06:57 we will sit with PML.

06:58 You know, PTI said,

06:59 we will sit with PML.

07:00 You know, PTI said,

07:01 we will sit with PML.

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