"Barrister Gohar does not suit PTI," Aamir Ilyas Rana's bold analysis

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00:00 Mr. Shahnawaz, what are your thoughts on today's developments?

00:03 On one hand, the court has decided, on the other hand, Chairman Imran Khan is not in office.

00:07 Is this the scenario?

00:09 They say Nawaz Sharif is in office, Imran Khan is out.

00:13 And like Anwarullah Kakkar's name was mentioned on Barrister Gauhar, he was also a guest of yours.

00:18 And now he is a one-to-one guest.

00:21 Barrister Gauhar does not suit PTI in any way.

00:24 He is not the kind of person who can be easily defeated.

00:29 Although he was brought up under the same conditions, despite this...

00:32 I have known him since he was a junior.

00:34 I am saying that he is a very cold person.

00:36 Maybe this is what he needed.

00:39 And maybe Mr. Khan was suspending him one day.

00:41 Chairman...

00:43 Yes, yes, when I did it, he would not change his temperament.

00:47 Why would Mr. Khan change his temperament?

00:49 He does not have a Shabaz Sharif to make him the President.

00:51 You are trapped.

00:52 He does not have a Shabaz Sharif to make him the President.

00:54 You are trapped.

00:55 I am telling you, the way Ali Zafar ridiculed him,

00:59 the way he criticizes the current government,

01:01 he was the Minister of Inquiry and then became the Senator of PTI.

01:03 He has no one.

01:05 His business is how to deal with people.

01:08 He was insulting him because he was a lawyer from another chamber.

01:11 It is not possible that Ali Zafar...

01:13 Listen to that press conference again.

01:16 He was being unfair.

01:18 He was ridiculing him again and again.

01:20 You could have become the President.

01:22 You were not a permanent member.

01:23 You were not made the President.

01:25 They know that.

01:26 In my opinion, Mr. Khan has made a good decision.

01:28 If he wants to deal with political parties and establishments,

01:31 then it will be done.

01:33 Should he be cut down?

01:35 No, there is no need to cut him down.

01:36 But this decision...

01:37 He needs confidence.

01:38 These issues are in the background.

01:40 These discussions are in the background.

01:42 But now you are saying that one is coming in and the other is going out.

01:45 I think so.

01:46 And the People's Party says that he is a darling.

01:48 No, they are saying that he is a darling.

01:50 Because it seems difficult for them to meet.

01:52 But you are also going to meet them more.

01:54 Okay, that's why...

01:55 Because you are a little more.

01:56 So, you are in favour of...

01:57 He will go independent.

01:58 So, you know that you are with Mr. Mian from London.

02:00 I am from Dubai.

02:01 Sorry, I apologize.

02:02 You should have told me half of the story.

02:03 I will tell you.

02:04 I will tell you half of the story.

02:05 You should have told me half of the story.

02:06 You should have told me the same candidate story.

02:07 And you went for the expenses of your office.

02:08 You should have kept this in mind too.

02:09 But on the expense of the office, you found out that now everything is good.

02:13 Nero will play the flute of peace when Pakistan comes.

02:17 You knew that this would happen.

02:18 You know...

02:19 You are getting relief from the courts.

02:20 You know that...

02:21 I was sitting with him and Mr. Faisal Wabda was saying that Nawaaz Sharif will not come on 21st October.

02:25 And it is my birthday.

02:26 Since then I have not been able to meet him in any program.

02:28 And I said that I will eat a cake too.

02:29 I will eat a cake even though I am a diabetic patient.

02:32 No, no, I said that I will eat a cake even though I am a diabetic patient.

02:35 And I am saying this because he will come.

02:37 So, Mr. Mian is not selected.

02:38 Okay.

02:39 Not selected.

02:40 They are being accused of what the previous establishment and court had done to them.

02:45 So, you will apply the conditions.

02:47 You are accusing him and selecting him.

02:48 But Nawaaz Sharif has said that he does not want what happened to me to happen to Imran Khan.

02:52 He said that after the decision.

02:53 He said that after the decision.

02:55 He said that in the High Court.

02:56 When he was asked about removing Imran Khan from the chair, he said that it is a counterfeit.

03:02 That is different.

03:03 But...

03:04 No, no, he is removing him from the chair.

03:05 You see, a decision was made by Saqib Nisar.

03:07 Three-member bench.

03:08 The decision of eleven-member bench was made on Benazir Bhutto.

03:10 That you cannot take the leadership of the party until we nullify the Supreme Court party.

03:15 They made three-member bench.

03:17 They made a wrong decision.

03:18 They took the signature of the lion in the Senate election.

03:20 They made some wrong decisions.

03:21 No, that is the principle.

03:23 You made a decision for Nawaaz Sharif.

03:25 Today, he has come to you.

03:26 That you will be punished.

03:27 People's Party has again held a press conference.

03:29 Mr. Kundi and Ms. Shazia Murry.

03:32 Again the same accusation that you have been making for the last 15-20 days.

03:35 Quinta.

03:36 BAP has left.

03:37 What can the father do?

03:38 I call him BAP.

03:39 No, what can the father do?

03:41 Sir, so, People's Party is just...

03:44 Gondula, you are just licking the dust.

03:47 You are just a Punjabi example.

03:48 Look, we have an idea about what happened with People's Party.

03:52 Because you know that when the term of this government was ending,

03:55 all the HMIs were coming.

03:56 That is a favourite.

03:57 That is a favourite.

03:58 That is a favourite.

03:59 That became the Prime Minister.

04:00 People from BAP party will join him.

04:01 People will come to South Punjab.

04:02 People from KP will come.

04:03 Tareen's group will win.

04:04 You will meet him.

04:05 Nothing happened.

04:06 Nothing happened.

04:07 What happened to the people in KP?

04:08 They didn't want to go to this party.

04:09 They went to People's Party.

04:10 Some people from BAP party had gone to People's Party.

04:11 They were also stopped again.

04:13 And Mian Nawaz Sharif wanted that if you are bringing things back to 2017,

04:17 then the BAP party which was formed was the majority from Noor League.

04:20 So, they should come back to Noor League.

04:22 And that is why you saw that some people joined the party.

04:24 Jam Kamal also joined.

04:26 Some people are in interim set up.

04:28 They will also come in future.

04:30 It is possible that they will fight the elections.

04:31 Sir, it is possible.

04:32 It is possible.

04:33 They can resign.

04:34 They can resign.

04:35 Sir, Bhukti sir had said that if I was not the Interior Minister in KTK set up,

04:38 then I would have been in Noor League.

04:39 So, I think it is possible that some people will come.

04:41 But, Mr. Bilawal had said the same thing.

04:43 No, the Interior Minister had said.

04:44 He had not said but he had gone.

04:45 No, no, no.

04:46 He and Jam Kamal had gone to Murree.

04:47 Jam Kamal, sorry.

04:48 Jam Kamal had said.

04:49 No, they had gone to both.

04:50 They had met with the Murree MP.

04:51 And they asked, "Who have you asked?"

04:52 They said, "We have asked from the same place from where we have been sent."

04:56 Meaning, from the Balochistan government.

04:58 They said in Murree.

05:00 They said in Balochistan government.

05:01 Okay, sir.

05:02 The level playing field has been set quickly in the end.

05:05 I think it is very obvious.

05:08 What Mr. Bilawal is saying is not just like that.

05:11 Maybe he also knows what is going to happen at this time.

05:13 And the way Mr. Nawaz Sharif himself has said to his party.

05:16 You must have read it a week or ten days ago.

05:18 That Mr. Nawaz Sharif is very worried about the tags and the perception that is being made against him.

05:21 That he is selected.

05:22 That he is a ladla.

05:23 Because, we were discussing in the show yesterday.

05:25 Mr. Mustafa Nawaz Koker had told this story.

05:27 That when Mr. Bilawal went to meet Mr. Nawaz Sharif in the jail.

05:30 Then Mr. Nawaz Sharif said that the name you have given, "Selected",

05:33 is very appropriated and it hits very well.

05:36 So, if the same name is being used against him, then it must be hitting him as well.

05:39 Has the level playing field been set?

05:41 It is Mr. Nawaz Sharif's wish.

05:42 It is a lush green field.

05:43 It has been set for Mr. Nawaz Sharif's wish.

05:45 Mr. Nawaz Sharif is a batting wicket from here and the rest is wicketing.

05:48 There is a lot of swing.

05:49 The wicket of the wicket is being hit.

05:51 Look, it has been set.

05:52 But, my issue is that when will the level playing field be set for this country?

05:56 Look, what is the whole discourse at this time?

05:59 This is happening with Mr. Khan.

06:01 With Mr. Nawaz Sharif.

06:02 You should have said this in 2017 as well.

06:04 I am saying that we are discussing the people who have said this.

06:08 There will be no difference between me and you.

06:11 Here, the issues of everyone are being discussed.

06:14 That this party had this problem, this party had this problem,

06:17 there was injustice with this, there was injustice at that time.

06:19 But, overall, the statements that they have made are revolving in the same circles.

06:24 Will we ever get out of this?

06:25 No, we will not.

06:26 Because, like Mr. Sardar said, the ones who were left out were also ready to make their deal.

06:30 That is fine, but...

06:31 You met them, you didn't meet them.

06:32 You didn't meet them, so you are throwing the ball.

06:34 Bilawal said something, that this is old politics.

06:36 We also criticized him that you also talk about your grandfather's politics.

06:39 But, in principle, that is fine.

06:41 We will have to move ahead from this politics.

06:43 We have to see the country as well.

06:44 Today, where is the country standing?

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