"Aaj Kal Media Kay Bhut Saray Log...", Nasir Hussain Shah

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00:00 I will ask you first, then Naseer and then Uwais.

00:03 Why is the People's Party so pessimistic?

00:06 They have been accused of being terrorists for a long time.

00:09 There are many objections against the Nigra government.

00:11 Even today, when Ishaq Dar was nominated as the Senator,

00:14 there were objections against him too,

00:16 when Salim Manviwala was made the Chief Whip.

00:18 When we talk about the MQM alliance,

00:22 they say that they are conspiring against it on the 18th amendment.

00:27 Khalid Makhbul Siddiqui has also given a statement on this.

00:30 He says that the 18th amendment is a hindrance.

00:32 The common Pakistani does not benefit from it,

00:34 for the investors and investors.

00:37 Do you feel any weight in their doubts and suspicions?

00:41 First of all, I have seen Naseer Hussain Shah

00:47 so agitated and agitated for the first time.

00:50 This has never happened before.

00:52 We have done very difficult programs,

00:54 we have attacked them, we have attacked Sindh's activities,

00:57 education, health, etc.

00:59 They have always been very calm.

01:02 But the way they got angry on this topic,

01:07 it means that this topic is right.

01:09 It means that Zardari Sahib was right

01:11 that Bilawal is not completely trained.

01:14 He is training him.

01:16 It will take some time.

01:18 This is the first time Naseer Hussain Shah,

01:20 he is a believer,

01:22 he said from the inside that

01:24 what are you people focusing on the real thing?

01:27 Go towards experience.

01:29 He is more well spoken than me.

01:31 He speaks better than me.

01:33 But since Naseer Hussain Shah was not present,

01:36 I repeat that according to Zardari Sahib,

01:39 our foreign minister was untrained.

01:42 For 16 months, our foreign policy was with an untrained person.

01:46 And our next prime minister is an untrained person.

01:50 And the rest,

01:52 the 3P and 4P parties,

01:54 both are their own parties,

01:56 obviously, keep them.

01:58 And I would like to ask Naseer Hussain Shah

02:00 that Zardari Sahib is speaking completely differently.

02:03 Bilawal Bhutto Sahib is speaking completely differently.

02:06 But after saying these two or four different things,

02:09 Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar got released from the party.

02:12 So I hope that either Bilawal will be released from this democratic party

02:15 or Zardari Sahib will be released.

02:17 I hope so because party policy will be the same.

02:19 Now let's come to the doubts and suspicions.

02:22 There is a lot of doubt and suspicion.

02:24 Because Anwarullah Kakar and the Baab party

02:28 were going to the Muslim League Noon before the Nigran government.

02:33 Number one.

02:34 After that, Fawad Hassan Fawad is present.

02:36 After that, Dr. Saif is present.

02:38 After that, Tauqeer Shah, who has just left the World Bank,

02:41 he was the principal secretary.

02:43 He is the principal secretary of Shahbaz Shaikh.

02:45 After that, Shahid Ashraf Tarar, who is a bureaucrat.

02:48 After that, there is his bureaucracy.

02:50 After that, Mohsin Naqvi is present in Punjab.

02:53 He is still Zardari Sahib's son.

02:55 And he is brother of Nasir Hussain Shah.

02:57 But there are doubts from him as well.

02:59 And after that, Maulana Samdi is in KP.

03:03 So I think that saying Nigran government is a kind of injustice.

03:07 And anyway, these are non-government governments.

03:09 Justice Zafar Minalla has also given an additional note of 41 pages.

03:14 And Justice Bandeyal is not saying this.

03:16 Imran Khan's representative judges, who were accused of this, are not saying this.

03:21 Justice Zafar Minalla is saying that this is a non-government government.

03:24 And he is also saying that election commission, governors and president did a non-government work.

03:28 So this is a concept.

03:33 But I am surprised that the People's Party should not have objected to this.

03:41 16 months of city and city, we need Shahbaz Peer in Sindh as well.

03:47 There is no governance like Shahbaz government.

03:49 There is no performance like Shahbaz Sabir.

03:52 There is no great organization like Shahbaz Sabir.

03:54 So both of them are one and believe me,

03:56 Now listen to the interesting thing,

03:58 If in future, there is talk of becoming a government of national government or alliance,

04:01 then Zardari Sahib will lead.

04:03 And it is possible that Bhutto Sahib and Zia Sahib will get together again.

04:07 And if there is no government,

04:10 In this position, my beloved leader, Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif took majority,

04:16 then Bilawal Bhutto will lead as a revolutionary.

04:19 And in the end, Ahmed Awais Sahib said a very beautiful sentence,

04:23 "Aabe Rawaan"

04:25 That is, dirty water is coming out of it.

04:27 What a beautiful sentence, Ahmed Awais Sahib, I love you.

04:31 Till yesterday, you used to call it "Vikte Girana"

04:34 Today, you call it "Aabe Rawaan"

04:36 And when did this dirty water come in "Aabe Rawaan"?

04:39 And when dirty water was coming, why did you let it come?

04:42 But anyway, Ahmed Awais Sahib is in crisis these days,

04:45 That's why "Aabe Rawaan", I love you.

04:47 Sir, Bhatti Sahib will say a lot in this short conversation.

04:52 I will ask you an innocent question,

04:54 Mr. Shah, what happened with Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar,

04:58 after having different opinions,

05:00 after having a disagreement,

05:01 Is it possible that something like this can happen here too,

05:03 if there is a consensus in the party,

05:05 and you have two parties,

05:06 Mr. Zardari himself said,

05:07 both parties have an intra-party election,

05:09 what about you?

05:11 How much consensus is there, tell me this.

05:13 Yes, there are elections,

05:16 there are intra-party elections,

05:18 and in that,

05:20 obviously, the leadership is the same.

05:23 I was listening,

05:24 for a few days,

05:25 many friends of ours,

05:26 this debate has been going on since yesterday,

05:28 that see,

05:29 the big parties,

05:31 there is no competition in them,

05:33 let's just fill someone's nomination,

05:36 if a nomination was filled,

05:38 then they would say,

05:39 see, they are making a fool of themselves,

05:42 because in front of leadership,

05:45 I am talking about People's Party,

05:47 if in front of People's Party,

05:49 a senior comes and stands for the election,

05:54 for chairmanship,

05:55 Sir, this is a good opportunity,

05:56 you bring a trained person,

05:57 you yourself are a very experienced politician,

06:00 you can stand for chairmanship,

06:03 you can also stand.

06:04 See, I will tell you,

06:07 there is a legacy,

06:09 and for that,

06:10 there is competition,

06:11 we compete,

06:12 even if there is a little,

06:13 there is something.

06:14 So, if someone comes in front of the leadership of People's Party,

06:17 then he should have his own graveyard,

06:19 in which Shaheed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto is buried,

06:21 Shaheed Muhtarma Benazir Bhutto is buried,

06:25 Shaheed Murtaza Bhutto is buried,

06:27 Shaheed Shahnawaz Bhutto is buried,

06:29 and many more things,

06:30 if someone has such a legacy,

06:32 then he should definitely come and compete,

06:34 it is not like that,

06:35 that these parties,

06:38 this is just a legacy,

06:40 that is their legacy,

06:42 I am Nasir Shah,

06:45 my father won against People's Party in 1970,

06:51 now I have my own property,

06:53 our Bakaar property,

06:54 I am a big member of the Syed's,

06:56 I am a big member of the Syed's,

06:58 I am a big member of the Syed's,

06:59 I am a big member of the Syed's,

07:00 I have been a Nazim of Sukkur twice,

07:03 I have been a minister for 10 years,

07:06 I am very active,

07:08 but if I don't vote for People's Party,

07:10 I will lose.

07:11 But if I don't vote for People's Party,

07:12 I will lose.

07:13 I will lose.

07:14 I am telling you,

07:16 I am nothing without the party,

07:18 so it is like this,

07:19 the rest is the party,

07:20 the intraparty elections should definitely take place,

07:23 and the election commission has said,

07:26 PTI should take place,

07:28 PTI has a lot of process,

07:29 they took part in that process,

07:32 but later there was a little disagreement,

07:34 so they separated Makhdoom sahib,

07:37 second thing,

07:38 the president's interview,

07:42 Bhatti sahib was saying,

07:45 Bhatti sahib is very respectable for me,

07:47 but now a days,

07:48 many people in the media,

07:50 are like puppets,

07:52 they are always in conflict,

07:54 there is no conflict,

07:55 there is nothing,

07:57 we are one,

07:59 you gave an interview,

08:00 you are a puppet,

08:02 you are the media,

08:03 wow, wow, Shah sahib,

08:04 wow, what a thing,

08:05 we are the puppets,

08:06 we have run the business after Zardari sahib,

08:09 I am not commenting on this,

08:14 Ahmed Wais sahib,

08:15 it is a very good opportunity,

08:16 Tariq-e-Insaab has always said,

08:18 we will make a new Pakistan,

08:19 we will end the Moroosi politics,

08:21 there are already so many cases on your leadership,

08:24 give the leadership of Tariq-e-Insaab to someone else,

08:27 elections are going to be held in your party,

08:30 someone should win the competition,

08:32 yes, we are in the preparations for the elections,

08:39 and if a legal requirement has been made,

08:42 then we will fulfil it,

08:43 and the results of the elections will come,

08:47 so that we can participate properly,

08:50 but along with that,

08:52 Nasir Shah sahib,

08:54 in reference to 9th May,

08:55 there was a story of Parina,

08:57 but he again touched upon it,

08:59 so I would like to say only this,

09:02 that we say again and again,

09:04 and we have been saying since that day,

09:06 that this was an orchestrated plan,

09:08 and a judicial inquiry should have been done for it,

09:11 if a judicial inquiry had been done,

09:13 the matter would have come in front of the eyes,

09:15 that what is the reality,

09:17 what is a lie,

09:18 and the litmus test is very clear,

09:21 very clear litmus test,

09:23 that where was the Punjab police on 9th May,

09:26 and if the police were not subjected to any action,

09:32 in the deletion of duty,

09:34 then it means that this was a part of the plan,

09:36 and along with that,

09:39 the core commander was removed,

09:41 so the detail of the core commander should have come in front of the eyes,

09:45 and the matter was very clear.

09:48 Let us see which side these cases go to,

09:50 and what comes in front of it,

09:52 you said that the intraparty elections will also be held,

09:54 Mr. Bhatti, you can make the last comment,

09:56 how much democracy is there in the political parties,

09:58 whether we talk about the People's Party,

10:00 about the Noondi,

10:01 or we talk about the Telecom,

10:03 which says that politics should not be based on morals.

10:06 There is no democracy at all,

10:08 nor is it based on the words of the leaders of our political parties,

10:14 nor is it based on the words of the leaders of our political parties,

10:16 nor is it based on the decisions of the people,

10:18 nor is it based on the parties,

10:20 nor is it based on the regime of the people.

10:24 And these are the people who are the obstacles in the path of the real democracy.

10:28 These are the few families who have made this country a mess,

10:33 there are private limited companies,

10:35 there are factories that produce gold-plated eggs,

10:37 and now they have generations of generations,

10:40 and the generations will continue to go ahead.

10:43 And the second thing is that

10:46 those people who do not get transparent elections in the party,

10:50 believe me, they do not get transparent elections in the country either.

10:54 And where is it, which party has got transparent elections in the party,

10:59 this is personalism,

11:01 and it is religious, not a religious thing.

11:04 So, it is unfortunate, we are the same at the bottom,

11:08 they are the same at the top,

11:10 and we have named this whole process as a drama,

11:15 and that is why people are upset with democracy,

11:17 otherwise there is no system like democracy.

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