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Transcript

00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum and good evening.

00:02 I am Mehr Bukhari.

00:03 90% of Pakistanis are thinking that the country's economy is not in a good position.

00:07 According to the Consumer Confidence Index survey conducted by EPSOS,

00:11 only 10% of Pakistanis think that the country is in a good position.

00:15 And the economic problems are the biggest problem for them.

00:18 But the number of people who consider the country's economy to be extremely weak has decreased.

00:22 This has reduced to 60%.

00:24 Along with the survey, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari is also expressing his opinion that

00:28 the country is not in a bad position, but it will increase.

00:33 And the old politicians are being held responsible for this.

00:38 The old politicians are being held responsible for this.

00:45 They have destroyed my country.

00:48 They can either sit at home or in their madrasa and pray for the country.

00:53 Now it is our turn to do the work.

00:55 When Khan became the government, he became the government of the Tik Tokers.

00:59 And when Niaz became the government, he became the government of Ashrafiya.

01:03 I want to establish a public rule in this country.

01:07 I want to be the Prime Minister.

01:10 But more than that, I want the Prime Minister in Peshawar.

01:15 In a statement to Chitral, Bilawal Bhutto has not only admitted to the failure of the PDM government,

01:22 but also stated the reason for this, that the PDM government was playing a personal enemy.

01:27 The PDM government, which we supported for 18 years,

01:33 God forbid 18 years, 18 months,

01:35 was not successful because our PDM government was playing a personal enemy.

01:43 We will talk about this later.

01:45 We have with us the senior PM of the People's Party, Mr. Rehman Avid Kamar.

01:50 Mr. Kamar, thank you very much.

01:52 It is easy to give the name of the Mengai League to Anund Li,

01:54 but with this Mengai League, how can you all, with 16 marks,

01:57 take 10 ministries and make the People's Party move away from Mengai?

02:01 Look, I am saying that yes, we are a part of the coalition, we are a part of the cabinet.

02:08 So to that extent, it is true that we are not that much,

02:13 but to some extent, we do have responsibility.

02:16 That we take the best decisions.

02:19 But obviously, the lead party, for example, in finance,

02:24 or our fiscal, monetary policies, state bank policies,

02:31 often, especially in the second part, our difference was there.

02:38 Because the whole philosophy was here that tighten everything,

02:45 that the economy should be thriving, that was not there.

02:53 In fact, on again, off again, our IMF program used to be there.

02:58 In that, very difficultly, when Mr. Mifta was in the first half,

03:03 even then, initially, there was no, then yes, after that,

03:07 then during Mr. Dar's time, it happened like this.

03:10 So, that consistency which did not remain, due to which the pain was more.

03:16 And pain, unfortunately, it is on the common man, on the people.

03:21 So, to that extent, we used to criticize internally,

03:26 and even today, we are keeping it in front of the people.

03:31 So, that is true, that if it does not happen like this,

03:37 then maybe, it will not be so expensive.

03:40 Obviously, if the international prices of commodities increase,

03:43 then it will have an impact, but less.

03:46 But, Mr. Qamar, on again, off again, the lack of consistency which you are talking about,

03:50 all this ownership is very solely, squarely on you and people's party as well.

03:55 Because you chose to remain there as part of the cabinet.

03:59 And on whose behalf was this lack of consistency, specifically?

04:02 I think, to an extent, there was a confusion, that there was a concern about populism as well.

04:11 That, especially, what we saw, some violations, as a result,

04:17 after that, to a great extent, the program was slowed down.

04:23 The IMF program is very bitter, and it is not popular.

04:32 We can definitely differ from the IMF program,

04:36 but once you finally negotiate something, then you have to follow it.

04:42 Here, the inconsistency was that, should the growth be done at the rate of oil, or not?

04:51 Mr. Khan, before leaving, gave another kick to the whole thing,

04:56 that, yes, I am making 10 rupees cheaper.

04:59 Now, there was a cheap popularity.

05:04 But then, it took us a lot of time to reverse that.

05:08 Because, a lot, who was fairly senior,

05:13 who thought that we cannot afford to do these things.

05:19 But, the losses that were caused by not doing that,

05:23 were that our foreign exchange reserves started to fall.

05:30 Because of that, we severely risked our imports,

05:35 and because of that, our exports were at risk.

05:38 So, these things cannot be done on again, off again.

05:44 Finally, when in the final half of 2022,

05:51 it was decided that we have to do this, and we did,

05:55 then after the change of finance minister,

05:58 again we had to go back and start all over again.

06:01 Then we came back, and in the last days, finally, this deal was done.

06:06 The thing is that, if there is no consistency,

06:10 then the results will be in time.

06:13 So, Mr. Naveed Kamar, I am also getting the first glimpse of this from your words,

06:17 that you all did not come to save the state.

06:19 Political gains were very much, loss of political capital,

06:22 was a very big problem for the Noon League and for you all as well, Satma.

06:25 With delay, the IMF clinched, Mr. Deeldar,

06:28 you, People's Party, did not raise your voice then as well.

06:30 But today, when they say that we have saved it by default,

06:33 you want to take credit for that as well, you are also a part of that.

06:36 But, political gains were very much there.

06:38 Did none of you come to save the state?

06:40 No, whatever you are calling it, credit or discredit,

06:45 the facts on the ground, I am saying,

06:47 it is not right of you to sit inside and say this.

06:51 Chairman Binawal himself said this.

06:55 But, obviously, certain things you can't say.

06:58 You take an oath that you will disclose the cabinet's matters later.

07:03 So, there are such things at that time as well.

07:05 No, the question was that if you follow that whole thing to its ultimate logical conclusion,

07:15 that why didn't you go home after giving the resignation,

07:19 that was possible, but politically,

07:22 after taking so much pain,

07:25 if we leave, it means we go to the elections.

07:29 So, perhaps, everybody thought that it was not appropriate.

07:33 So, for the sake of poverty, commerce, privatization, industries and production,

07:37 these were the most important ministries of the People's Party.

07:40 All the blame is being given to the Noon League as well.

07:42 But, at that time, even on the possibility of resignation,

07:44 the People's Party was considering the Central Executive Committee.

07:47 Of course, we did.

07:49 And, you are accepting that if we leave,

07:55 it was not that the People's Party is getting separated,

07:58 it would be that the government would go.

08:01 At least, there would be elections.

08:03 So, there are its own consequences.

08:09 Otherwise, whether it is privatization,

08:12 or poverty alleviation, or foreign policy,

08:15 or climate change, or commerce,

08:17 they don't have that effect,

08:21 which the impact of the finance, finance ministry, and policies that are made there,

08:29 on the things that we are talking about,

08:31 particularly, what we are talking about is inflation.

08:34 So, fiscal policy, monetary policy,

08:36 its shareholders are to some extent,

08:39 but the ones who make it, I have no doubt.

08:41 But, today, when Bilawal says that the PDM's fake government was not successful

08:45 because the rulers were taking revenge of their personal enmities

08:48 instead of serving the people,

08:51 they were focusing on all kinds of revenge,

08:55 were you aware of this?

08:57 That is there, but till today, you can see that

09:00 to some extent, the personal enmity,

09:03 and with whom, basically,

09:05 what Imran Khan did,

09:08 and what he did, was not good.

09:10 He did the victimization,

09:14 and obviously, many people were affected by it,

09:19 and were upset.

09:21 So, to some extent, the politics,

09:24 and it still is, I would say,

09:28 is being overwhelmed by that one factor.

09:33 And, you are still a part of it,

09:36 but the Muslim League wants to take revenge in power,

09:40 even today, Bilawal is convinced about this.

09:43 I hope that they change their ways.

09:46 If they follow their old ways,

09:49 then it will not be good for the country.

09:51 But, Naveed Kamar, the government of the PDM,

09:54 which is busy in the politics of revenge,

09:56 has failed, Bilawal has convinced them,

09:58 but the Kabina Committee has also

10:00 requested to include Imran Khan and others in the ECL.

10:03 Are you seeing this as a continuation of the politics of revenge?

10:07 Is it a continuation, or is the Nigrah government

10:12 also living in the same shadow,

10:15 in which I was talking about,

10:17 that the first objective is to get Imran Khan out of the politics,

10:22 and then do the rest.

10:24 It seems that there is consistency.

10:27 And, on one hand, this consistency,

10:29 and on the other hand, we see two different views in your community,

10:33 that you are a Gamzan.

10:34 Bilawal needs a level playing field and a youth leadership.

10:37 Mr. Zardari fully trusts the ECL and this system.

10:40 How dangerous can this ideological barrier be for your party?

10:44 No, there is absolutely no barrier,

10:47 because all the policies are made together,

10:50 but there is a difference in the development,

10:52 there is a difference in the emphasis.

10:54 The perspective of a young man is different.

11:00 And, it is different that if you say that his time is over,

11:07 that is different, but nevertheless,

11:09 the policies are made together.

11:11 You are also seeing that the same things are said in different ways.

11:17 Mr. Naveed Kamar, this People's Party takes a lot of credit for the 18th Amendment.

11:21 What is your position on the rollback of the 18th Amendment?

11:25 Look, the first thing is that the dreams of rollback of the 18th Amendment,

11:31 if they are moved in this way,

11:37 people also think that it is a disaster for the Federation.

11:43 What is our problem right now?

11:46 Our problem is that we do not have proper education,

11:51 health, social welfare, all these things.

11:54 And all these are sub-issues.

11:59 Now, why are you taking up resources from the morning,

12:02 why are you talking about the 18th Amendment in general,

12:05 but actually your purpose is to rollback the NFC award.

12:09 So, how is that going to affect the people?

12:14 It will negatively affect them.

12:16 So, they should also understand that the three provinces are not ready for this,

12:25 that you rollback this thing.

12:28 So, this will be a big risk for PM Lehnagar,

12:32 if he is only going to talk about getting on the line of a strong center.

12:40 I think it is a very dangerous thing.

12:43 I have heard that they have stepped back,

12:47 their people who are insisting that we will return the 18th Amendment.

12:54 So, I think they are playing with fire.

12:56 If this is dangerous, but the signs are that the Muslim League is going to make a government again,

13:01 if Mr. Isagdar becomes the Minister of Treasury again,

13:03 do you have reservations with regards to that?

13:06 If we continue with the 18th Amendment,

13:11 you have seen the results, you don't want more than the same.

13:16 And Mr. Mian has also suggested that the investors in the industrial sector should not be asked

13:21 where the money is coming from.

13:23 Do you agree with Mr. Mian's suggestion?

13:25 First of all, Mr. Mian should remember that we are an IMF program.

13:32 And if you are talking about amnesties,

13:35 then that is a strict red line of IMF.

13:39 So, you should stop talking about these things,

13:42 because that is not going to work.

13:45 We only give lip service to the documentation of the economy.

13:55 Let's clearly start working towards it,

13:57 so that we have a revenue generation,

13:59 and when our FBR is sleeping at home,

14:02 that too should be activated.

14:05 You can't run the country on the basis of indirect taxes and withholding taxes.

14:11 It's too little, and you won't be able to get out of all the problems of your country

14:17 if you go in that direction again.

14:19 So, Mr. Naveed Kamal, the IMF agreement is also in place in December.

14:24 But after its approval, Pakistan will get $70 crore under the first review of the $3 billion standby arrangement.

14:31 But you are expecting such a big change in the economic field from this agreement.

14:35 Then of course, the incoming government has to again go into a new agreement.

14:39 No, but the first thing is that the effects of this agreement are now in the form of prior conditions.

14:47 Now, unfortunately, our credibility has become such that

14:52 they say, "First you do it, then you talk to us."

14:55 We have done it, so that it doesn't just go down the drain.

15:00 So, we are seeing that there is no further tightening.

15:06 First you increased the electricity prices.

15:11 Now you have seen that the bills have not yet come to people.

15:14 When these bills will come and they will also come in winter,

15:18 then obviously there will be a reaction.

15:21 But you are so caught up in the straitjacket that

15:26 whether it is the interim government or the elected government,

15:30 they have this whole program.

15:32 And this program will end in March, and then you will have to negotiate a new program.

15:37 Because your current situation is not good.

15:40 All the flows, whether it is exports or remittances,

15:47 there is a margin of up and down.

15:51 But our requirements cannot be fulfilled.

15:57 So, you have to go back to that.

15:59 And obviously, there will be more tough decisions.

16:04 But sir, along with these tough decisions, you are seeing that

16:07 the Nijkari is the most important issue.

16:09 And the Nigrahan government is very fast on it.

16:12 You have also been the Nijkari minister three times.

16:14 Are there any concerns?

16:16 But, I have been the minister of private decision three times.

16:23 So, I have a little bit of experience on this issue.

16:27 You don't do this.

16:29 In three months, you are the PIA or any other institution.

16:35 How do you privatize it in three months?

16:37 Now, you have put a financial advisor and that has also become controversial.

16:44 Because, how did it get put?

16:47 There is no investment bank in it that does marketing.

16:50 And there is no success fee.

16:52 So, there are issues with the way this privatization is done.

16:56 Ultimately, there is an option in the solution of PIA.

17:03 But, if you have to give it to someone like this, then it will be counterproductive.

17:14 We have seen that successful privatizations have been made and unsuccessful privatizations have been made.

17:20 And if we give such big national assets like this, then it will not only cause loss, but also political backlash.

17:28 What do you mean by political backlash?

17:30 No, obviously, no one can stay quiet, whether it is the interim government or the elected government,

17:37 that something is going wrong, something is going wrong.

17:40 To be in a hurry to do things, privatization is a very painstaking process.

17:48 In that, you will not get any benefit in any way.

17:53 Mr. Naveed Kamar, you yourself gave these powers and powers to the government.

17:57 So, what will happen when the birds go to the fields?

18:00 See, the question of 100% confidence, you go to the market, you go to the party, you go to the wedding.

18:07 Thank you very much, Mr. Naveed Kamar was with us.

18:09 Viewers, keep telling you.

18:11 The most important news is a matter related to the court.

18:18 Supreme Judicial Council has issued a show-cause notice to Justice Mazaher Ali Akbar Naqvi for the second time

18:24 after reviewing complaints, evidence and allegations against Justice Mazaher Naqvi for three days.

18:28 The answer to this has to be given by Justice Mazaher Naqvi in 14 days.

18:32 This notice has been issued in accordance with the 4-1 rule.

18:35 Chief Justice Qazi Faizi Saab, Supreme Court Senior Peony Judge Justice Sardar Tariq,

18:41 Lahore High Court Chief Justice Amir Bhatti and Balochistan High Court Chief Justice Naeem Afghan

18:45 voted in favor of issuing the show-cause notice.

18:47 While Justice Ijaz-ul-Ahsan's show-cause notice was opposed.

18:51 It is also important to note that the notice issued before this was issued with 3-2.

18:56 At that time, Lahore High Court Chief Justice Amir Bhatti opposed the issue of issuing the notice.

19:01 The accused was heard 10 complaints against Justice Mazaher Ali Akbar Naqvi.

19:05 During the hearing, the allegations of Justice Mazaher were also reviewed by the Judicial Council.

19:10 While two of the allegations of Justice Mazaher were taken back after the clarification of the allegations.

19:16 According to the show-cause notice, Justice Mazaher Naqvi has been asked for clarification on 10 cases.

19:21 On behalf of Justice Mazaher, Qaja Hariz has also filed a legal request in the Supreme Court

19:27 in which the decision-maker of the request has been asked to postpone the proceedings of the council.

19:31 The request states that the property against which the Supreme Judicial Council has filed a complaint

19:37 is declared.

19:39 For this, neither tax nor any notice was issued on behalf of the registration authorities.

19:44 Justice Mazaher has raised the question in his request that

19:47 how can a person who has no connection with the sale and purchase of this property

19:53 complain against a declared accused?

19:55 Justice Mazaher further said that the proceedings in the Supreme Judicial Council against me

19:59 are based on malice and my character in the media is directly attacking the freedom of justice.

20:05 Justice Mazaher is accused of using his powers illegally as a Supreme Court judge

20:10 and buying property in Lahore, which is more expensive than his income.

20:14 Therefore, the Supreme Judicial Council should ban it and proceed against the Supreme Judicial Judge.

20:19 In 14 days, Justice Mazaher Ali Naqvi will be held accountable for the show-cause notice.

20:25 Now, the illegal use of powers and rights has been the most important issue in the Cypher case.

20:32 We will tell you about it after the break.

20:34 The Supreme Court has issued a two-day suspension order in the £190 million scandal

20:38 in the body remand of the Chairman PTI.

20:41 Imran Khan's 10-day body remand was initiated on behalf of NAB,

20:45 but the court has issued a two-day suspension order.

20:48 Today, the most important witnesses have come forward in this £190 million case.

20:54 During the case of Bhairia Town Karachi,

20:57 it is clear that the money sent to Bhairia Town by the bank account

21:02 was sent on direct instructions from the director of the bank account, Malik Riaz Hussain.

21:11 The bank has submitted a letter to the Supreme Court in 2019,

21:18 which states that the Bank has sent the money to the National Crime Agency of the UK.

21:21 According to the letter, the judge of the Bank has declared the account freezing order illegal.

21:26 The account holder has sent the money to Pakistan on his own, not on the request of the National Crime Agency.

21:32 According to the Bank, it is not true that the money was sent to the Government of Pakistan.

21:37 The £190 million was transferred to Pakistan on the request of the family member of Malik Riaz.

21:44 And no such amount was deposited to the Government of Pakistan.

21:48 The purpose of this transfer was to be used for the Bhairia Town.

21:51 After the most important documents have been presented,

21:53 a new turn has come in the £190 million scandal.

21:56 Because the Chairman PTI is accused of accepting a closed envelope

22:01 when the £190 million was from the State of Pakistan and deposited it in the Supreme Court's account.

22:06 The Supreme Court was accused of depositing this amount in the Supreme Court's account

22:09 and the Supreme Court was awarded a fine of Rs 460 billion.

22:14 And in the form of this award, Al-Qadir University was taken from Malik Riaz.

22:18 In this case of misuse of authority, along with the most important precedent,

22:22 the Zaili Committee of the Fidelity Cabinet, in this case,

22:25 in addition to the recommendation to put the Chairman PTI in the ECL in the name of 29 criminals,

22:28 and in the Cypher case, the Supreme Court,

22:30 in the name of the Chairman PTI, has issued a notice to the Fidelity and FIA.

22:36 During the hearing of the three-degree bench,

22:38 the lawyer of the Chairman PTI, Salman Safdar, came to the rostrum and read the FIR.

22:43 The head of the bench, Justice Sardar Tariq Masood,

22:46 questioned the lawyer Salman Safdar, that when is this case?

22:49 The lawyer replied that this case is from 2020.

22:52 During the hearing, the FIA's investigation officer,

22:54 without presenting a notice, expressed his disdain to the court,

22:57 and said that who has called you? Go back and sit.

23:00 Justice Yaya Freedy questioned that it was said in the inquiry

23:03 that the role of the partner in the investigation will be decided.

23:07 In the final investigation report, what did the investigation say about Azam Khan?

23:11 The lawyer Salman Safdar replied that the investigation did not give a clear statement

23:16 that Azam Khan was kidnapped.

23:18 His family also filed a case of kidnapping.

23:20 After the kidnapping, Azam Khan's statement of 164 was made.

23:24 Justice Sardar Tariq gave remarks that this is how the truth comes out.

23:28 Justice Sardar Tariq, while expressing his disdain to the lawyer of the Chairman PTI,

23:31 gave remarks that if you run the cases politically, then this will happen.

23:36 Who told you to run the case and the bail together?

23:40 The accused is not less than 60 years old.

23:42 And the case is of further inquiry, so come this way.

23:45 Justice Ayesha Malik asked Salman Safdar,

23:47 what is the central ground in your case?

23:50 Salman Safdar replied that our case is that the case does not become.

23:54 The case that has been filed is on crimes like spying.

23:58 And in the investigation, it was not told where the spying was done

24:01 or whether it was beneficial to any enemy country.

24:03 At this time, Justice Tariq Masood raised the question

24:06 that he is saying that you have compromised the code of CIPER.

24:10 The lawyer said that the accusation on which the punishment is criminal

24:13 or two years imprisonment is made, but the case has been filed.

24:17 Justice Yaya Preeti asked the lawyer that was CIPER a secret document or not?

24:22 Salman Safdar replied that after the declassification of CIPER,

24:25 it was not a secret document.

24:26 Justice Yaya Preeti raised the question again that before the declassification,

24:30 did the accused show the CIPER?

24:32 The lawyer replied that during this time, CIPER was not shown to anyone.

24:35 At this time, Justice Tariq raised another interesting question

24:38 that if CIPER is blown in the air and it is said that it is written in the case,

24:43 then does it not come in the lock of the lock?

24:47 Justice Yaya Preeti said that we are not doing the trial of the allegations yet.

24:51 What are the allegations? We are just seeing this.

24:53 The court has issued a notice to all the defendants including Wafaq and FIA

24:57 declaring the appeal of the Chairman of PTI to be in the court.

25:01 In addition to the appeal, the ECL, Chairman of PTI, Bushra Bibi, Farah Gogi,

25:10 Murad Syed, Ali Amin Gandapur and Sheikh Rasheed have been requested to be in the ECL.

25:16 The Zaili Committee has also requested the ECL to be in the ECL for the other 41 defendants

25:22 who have been sent by various courts and institutions.

25:25 The Zaili Committee's requests will go to the Cabinet and the Cabinet will decide on these requests.

25:30 On the other hand, the Election Commission is going to announce a safe decision tomorrow

25:34 on the PTI intra-party election.

25:36 The electoral field has also become more secure and we are receiving news that

25:41 the movement for justice has prepared a list of women, youth, and the youth who are going to

25:49 take to the electoral field.

25:51 We have with us political analysts Rishad Bhatti and Ajmal Jami.

25:56 Thank you both.

25:58 The talk of old and new politics is being talked about. Is there a possibility of new politics

26:06 in the extreme polarization and mistrust that is in politics?

26:09 The main reason for this statement is that it is a political gap that is being created

26:15 due to the absence of Imran Khan.

26:18 He is trying to fill that gap on the basis of his own data.

26:22 But I have two parallel objections to this speech.

26:25 One is that as far as Bhatti sir is concerned, he talks about Clinton or Obama.

26:30 Bhatti sir has forgotten that in 1984, the American elections of Reagan,

26:35 so probably I might be mistaken, Walter Moderne was in his opposition, who was a democratic.

26:43 He taunted Reagan for being old in a speech.

26:47 Then what happened?

26:49 Reagan had a policy, Reagan had a manifesto, on the basis of which he won the landsliding victory.

26:56 It is not that if there are drops, you get free.

26:59 The problem is that these narratives, which are good or bad or fake or real,

27:04 you sell them and attract the ordinary Pakistani people, whether now or before that.

27:10 Which political party among you is really voting for 30% of the youth,

27:15 which really wants to end poverty, which really presents the concrete solution to the biggest problem of unemployment in Pakistan in the Jalsa.

27:22 None.

27:23 So these slogans are hollow.

27:25 And as far as the new politics and new leadership are concerned,

27:28 today he himself is standing in Chitral and saying that this is my family seat,

27:32 and I will say that respected Aswa should fight the election here.

27:34 So this is new politics.

27:36 And then where did the new politics go in the election of the mayor of Karachi?

27:40 Where the competition of Murza Wahab was with Naeem-ur-Rehman,

27:44 did you express the new politics there or did you join the old traditional politics and defeat them?

27:51 So if the voters are aware of these contradictions and recognize them,

27:58 and are aware of these things,

28:02 then if PTI presents the youth, the unknown faces in this vacuum,

28:10 then do you want to add something quickly, Jami?

28:15 I was coming to the last point.

28:18 I think Aleema Khan's role is very important if that role is really investigated.

28:25 Because in the past, whenever a political party's high leadership has gone out of the country or has gone abroad,

28:31 or for some reason could not fight the election,

28:33 then someone or the other is given the order to run the party and be trusted on its behalf.

28:39 I think Aleema Khan's role is very important whether she comes to the field or not.

28:46 And the people close to her, I spoke to them,

28:49 they confirm what you said in your question,

28:52 that their planning is to bank on lawyers.

28:55 Whether you see Sher Afzal Marwat as an empowerer in KPK,

28:58 or here in Punjab you see Lateef Khosa or Salman Akram Raja or other advocates,

29:03 they are confessing and admitting that they are up for the elections.

29:07 In that, a problem will arise that if you have 8 covering candidates,

29:13 but if before the election, some candidate's nomination papers are rejected,

29:19 then will that covering candidate be able to fight for the election?

29:22 Because you are given alternative signs.

29:25 And what is the guarantee that the nomination papers,

29:28 the candidate you are banking on, will be accepted?

29:32 The strategy for now seems very feasible,

29:36 but will you find candidates like Salman Akram Raja in all the polls or not?

29:43 For that, I am saying that you need the support that is in the presence of Imran Khan,

29:47 with Aleema Khan or someone else,

29:50 so that that availability, that flexibility is visible,

29:54 on the basis of which there are clear paths.

29:56 So far, the leadership of the PTA is accepted or not, that's a matter of course.

30:00 There are youth with them, of course.

30:02 But till now, the leadership of the PTA has taken the political situation to a dead end.

30:08 Politicians are the ones who have taken the political situation to a dead end.

30:11 But allow me, the role that Jami has highlighted of Aleema Khan,

30:14 will this continue to be another infighting?

30:18 Busha Bibi vs. Aleema Khan,

30:20 there is also a claim of their group being arrested.

30:23 And if the practical wisdom that the PTA is preparing,

30:26 how strong and positive will it be for you to see it?

30:31 I will say that, following the Sunnat-e-Jami,

30:34 they said two sentences about me,

30:36 and those same two sentences,

30:38 first, I was sure that they had nothing to do with the rights of cats.

30:42 They are the predators of cats,

30:45 and they are still feeling jealous about that,

30:48 and I am happy that they spoke about it,

30:52 but when the call comes, I will tell them that too.

30:55 The second thing is that they have brought Reagan into our politics.

30:59 They are educated people, they are brothers.

31:01 Bacha Khan, then Wali Khan,

31:05 then Aswandiyar Wali Khan,

31:07 then Amal Wali Khan,

31:09 then Shahnawaz Bhutto,

31:11 then Bhutto,

31:12 then Mustad Bhutto,

31:13 then Benazir Bhutto,

31:14 then Zardari Khan,

31:15 then Bilawal,

31:16 and then Aswa Sahiba.

31:18 And similarly, Nawaz Shiv, Mariam, Hamza, Shahbaz.

31:24 All our elders,

31:27 the happiness that Nawaz Shiv Sahib had,

31:29 he said that we are coming to the country,

31:31 and the vision is coming,

31:32 we have to take care of the country.

31:33 The speech of Minar-e-Pakistan,

31:35 you can see that there is no vision,

31:38 no road map,

31:40 no policy,

31:41 no road,

31:42 nothing.

31:43 Now Mansoor is being made again.

31:45 So, there is nothing.

31:49 But because this is a very critical moment,

31:52 the moment is that we have to give our seats to our children,

31:55 and we have to transfer power,

31:57 that is why we are not giving up.

31:59 So, one is that a Baba is very intelligent,

32:01 towards whom the whole nation looks,

32:03 and who does not make loose deals,

32:05 who is a thief who runs from narrow streets,

32:09 who does not run away in every difficult time,

32:11 or who stands with the people,

32:13 or whose mindset, words, party has democracy,

32:18 then still look towards that Baba.

32:20 There is no such Baba, and on top of that,

32:22 he is sticking to me.

32:23 So, in these contradictions and vacuum,

32:25 now you see,

32:26 on one hand, there are these contradictions and vacuum,

32:28 on the other hand, you see that the difficulties are increasing for PTI,

32:31 whether it is expansion in remand,

32:33 whether the cases are reaching their logical conclusion,

32:36 whether it is about putting a name in ECL,

32:38 then how will Bhoran be fulfilled?

32:40 Who is taking advantage of it?

32:42 See, its benefit is basically,

32:45 what Bilawal Bhutto is saying,

32:47 what the People's Party is saying,

32:49 what is he doing?

32:50 He is not looking like a revolutionary,

32:52 or he is not worried about democracy.

32:54 He is looking like,

32:56 the dreams of Bilawal Bhutto's Bazaar-e-Uzma are being shattered.

33:00 Nawaz Shiv is going closer to Bazaar-e-Uzma.

33:05 The MQM which was bad with Imran Khan,

33:08 is good with him today.

33:09 The Bab which was bad till yesterday,

33:11 is good with him today.

33:12 The electable Lote,

33:13 are bad with him today.

33:14 We have to reach the stage of power.

33:16 I will say one thing,

33:19 if you allow me,

33:21 Meher Bukhari Sahiba.

33:23 Yes, yes.

33:24 What Bhatti sir has criticized me,

33:26 on my mind,

33:27 actually he is supporting my logic.

33:30 If you hear it again from yourself,

33:32 and the audience is listening,

33:33 I have only said this to you,

33:35 that the Bab,

33:36 whether it was Reagan or someone else,

33:37 there was a manifesto,

33:38 there was a solution,

33:39 he got the land-steading victory.

33:41 And he was not contesting for the very first time,

33:43 Bhatti sir.

33:44 I will tell you,

33:45 he fought for the second time.

33:46 And he was criticized for this,

33:48 that you have become old.

33:49 In response to this,

33:50 he said a famous sentence,

33:53 which was a very beautiful sentence,

33:54 I can't repeat it right here.

33:55 So he had a manifesto,

33:57 actually he is supporting my logic.

34:00 That what kind of political party is this,

34:02 which has nothing with Pakistan.

34:04 Yes, yes.

34:06 Yes.

34:07 Instead of serving hard,

34:09 he is focusing on personal enmity.

34:11 Sir, when Bilawal talks about

34:16 focusing on personal enmity instead of serving hard,

34:20 he is also tapping into the frustration

34:22 of a large segment of society,

34:24 which is today fighting against personal enmity,

34:27 and is getting angry.

34:28 That PTI has a very big vote bank,

34:31 which they are trying to convince somewhere,

34:34 that we don't take personal enmity,

34:36 these are the people with personal enmity.

34:38 At this time, they are trying to become the real opposition.

34:41 And believe me,

34:42 elections are held,

34:43 they need to get together and form a government again.

34:46 They will, they will.

34:47 So if they need to get together after the elections,

34:50 then Mr. Zardari will go.

34:52 If not, then Bilawal will stand as a revolutionary.

34:55 So this is a good cup, bad cup.

34:56 Now PTI,

34:57 PTI is under the burden of 9th May,

34:59 you know the situation,

35:00 9th May and all the rest.

35:02 Imran Khan is not seen coming out of jail in the elections.

35:05 And PTI has no option,

35:08 all the votes have been distributed.

35:10 But if they are getting fresh faces in the field,

35:12 then somewhere...

35:14 No, see, whoever is in front of us,

35:16 Imran Khan's vote is the highest,

35:18 according to the vote bank.

35:19 But the point of the covering candidates has not been raised.

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41:49 That's it for tonight. Good night. Allah Hafiz.

KHABAR Meher Bokhari Kay Saath | ARY News | 22nd November 2023

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