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Is The Market Blindly Ignoring The Threat From China, Russia, North Korea And The Border Crisis?
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10/2/2023
Scott Shellady, better known as the Cow Guy, talks about his worries for the market and also talks about the issue with product and labor inflation.
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00:00
Scott, I don't have a feeling you're not gonna be
00:03
talking us off the ledge.
00:04
How you doing today?
00:05
- It's funny how, you know,
00:10
the market has been whistling by the graveyard.
00:12
And I think that there's something else at play here,
00:14
which a lot of folks really aren't taking
00:15
into consideration.
00:17
And the fact of the matter is this,
00:19
China, Russia, North Korea,
00:22
and a lot of our other smaller enemies
00:24
are getting together against us right now.
00:27
And I think that there's gotta be
00:29
a little bit more nervousness in the market because of that.
00:31
We are just ignoring it blindly like we are,
00:35
there are problems on the Southern border,
00:36
and it's going to have an economic consequence.
00:39
I mean, I don't know about you,
00:40
and I don't wanna make this political here,
00:42
but I'll just say one thing.
00:43
I didn't vote to have my tax dollars
00:46
go to house, feed, and clothe 6 million illegal immigrants.
00:51
It's going to have a drag on the economy.
00:54
Yesterday, they're calling it Sunday, Bloody Sunday,
00:56
because we have to turn back on the student loans
00:59
that people should have been paying all the time anyway.
01:02
And then we're faced with the fact
01:03
that we've got these rates that don't look to be going down,
01:05
and arguably it could be going higher.
01:07
We had the PCE on Friday that doesn't look good.
01:09
If you ask me, I mean,
01:10
I love how people say inflation's cooling or going down.
01:13
No, it's just going up at a slower pace.
01:15
You're paying more than you did this time last year.
01:19
And then we've got the specter of Christmas
01:20
coming around the corner.
01:21
And a lot of folks still like to spend
01:22
a lot of money on Halloween.
01:23
So I think budgets are tight.
01:25
All the loan details tell you the fact
01:29
that we've seen foreclosures are starting to spike.
01:32
Car loans, delinquencies are spiking.
01:36
Delinquencies and/or denials
01:39
of new credit cards are spiking.
01:40
I mean, I just want somebody to show me
01:43
one piece of good news so I can sleep well,
01:45
because I can't find it.
01:47
- We're going to find good news for you here,
01:49
but I'm with you.
01:50
And I think the rating is on the wall here,
01:52
but bring it back to product inflation
01:55
and talking about products still going higher.
01:57
You know what the biggest issue for this market is?
01:59
And I think I'm the only one saying it.
02:02
Like it's labor inflation.
02:04
- Yes.
02:05
- Because you are seeing this across the board here now.
02:07
UAL pilots, Friday, get 40% raise.
02:11
UPS, 40% raise.
02:13
GM and Ford and Chrysler workers want a 40% raise.
02:16
They don't want a 4% raise.
02:18
They want a 40% raise.
02:19
What is this going to do to margins?
02:22
If we're going to start jacking up everybody's wage
02:25
by 40% over the course of the next couple of years,
02:28
does that not show up in product inflation as well?
02:30
Because these companies are not going to be able to eat this.
02:33
They're going to have to pass a lot of these costs
02:35
onto consumers.
02:37
Those cars that are $75,000 you're looking at,
02:40
you know, like a pickup coming from Ford
02:44
is going to go up in price more.
02:46
Who's going to be able to afford these trucks
02:48
so they can complain like,
02:49
oh, well, I'm working and I can't afford to buy a new truck
02:52
because you're not giving me a fair wage.
02:54
Well, nobody can afford to buy a new truck.
02:55
And as you know, now you're going to put 40% raise.
02:58
They're going to be $100,000 pickups here.
03:00
- If they're not already.
03:02
I mean, you're exactly right.
03:03
It's the wage price spiral.
03:05
We talked about that when we were all in economics
03:08
way back when.
03:09
But I'll tell you,
03:11
those wage pressures will come through
03:12
at higher prices for the vehicles.
03:14
We're ultimately going to be the ones
03:16
that have to pay the price for that.
03:17
You're exactly right.
03:18
But I'll tell you, just to give everybody
03:20
a 60 seconds of history,
03:22
there is some silver lining at the end of that issue
03:25
because it was 1973,
03:28
and I have a British passport.
03:29
I've spent 16 years living in London,
03:30
trading the markets in Europe.
03:32
So I'm a student of Winston Churchill
03:36
and the English prime ministers.
03:38
In 1973, we had an English prime minister
03:40
by the name of Edward Heath.
03:42
And he was a conservative,
03:43
but he lost control of labor,
03:46
like you're just talking about.
03:47
And the coal miners went on strike at the same time,
03:51
the railroad workers went on strike
03:53
'cause they felt he was weak and took advantage of it
03:56
and basically shut down the country.
03:58
That's when they instituted a three-day work week in 1973.
04:02
Officially, the country was often closed
04:05
on Mondays and Fridays,
04:06
and people only went to work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
04:09
Obviously, he got kicked out of office.
04:12
A Democrat was elected right away,
04:14
and he was basically shunned from his party.
04:16
But having moved aside because of the decisions
04:19
and all those strikes that he let labor get out of control
04:23
while he was in power,
04:25
that created a vacuum,
04:26
which allowed for a certain person
04:27
by the name of Margaret Thatcher to come in and take over,
04:30
and all was good for the next 10 years after that.
04:32
So there could be something good that comes out of this,
04:35
but I tell you, I feel as though,
04:37
and again, I don't wanna be too hyperbolic,
04:40
but I feel as though they're losing control of the economy.
04:43
They've held a lot of balls in the air,
04:45
but I think that some of these things
04:46
are starting to come to fruition.
04:48
They're dropping a few, and at the same time,
04:50
they're losing control of labor.
04:53
And you've got a problem
04:54
when you don't have control of labor in the economy,
04:57
and I think that there's only one thing
04:58
that's gonna happen.
04:59
We're going to have to have a hard landing,
05:01
and we're definitely going to have a recession.
05:04
But I don't think there's any way
05:06
that we can guide this thing lower
05:07
because of what you just said with the labor
05:09
and what we already said
05:10
about what's been going on in the economy.
05:13
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